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| josch | ah i was not aware of freetube. I used invidious as a youtube frontend in the past. Yes, using --ozone-platform=wayland with chromium has been a topic here before. Instead of browsing the super slow youtube website, I often just use the built-in search of yt-dlp like this: | 00:09 |
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| josch | mpv "ytdl://ytsearch:nostromo auriga" | 00:09 |
| josch | That will then automatically play the first search result which means i only need to remember the right search terms. :) | 00:10 |
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| cwebber | hm, which one is the original board for the Pocket Reform again? | 00:13 |
| cwebber | ie, which system image should I need to download | 00:14 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 00:14 | |
| cwebber | if I haven't switched out my board | 00:14 |
| cwebber | pocket-reform-system-imx8mp.img.gz ? | 00:14 |
| josch | yes | 00:14 |
| cwebber | ok gotcha | 00:15 |
| cwebber | bummer | 00:15 |
| cwebber | I'm having a weird issue | 00:15 |
| cwebber | https://community.mnt.re/t/purple-flash-and-then-screen-doesnt-work-while-booting/2914/2 | 00:17 |
| cwebber | get a purple flash after booting but the screen doesn't work | 00:17 |
| cwebber | I'm guessing it does boot | 00:17 |
| cwebber | maybe the screen is broken? I'm not sure | 00:18 |
| cwebber | I can't seem to get an hdmi output to work, but I'm guessing hdmi wouldn't work during the boot phase anyway | 00:19 |
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| josch | cwebber: if the issue was caused by an apt upgrade, then the system image would suffer from it as well | 00:56 |
| josch | maybe other pocket imx8mplus owners can try out the latest image to see if they can reproduce your findings? | 00:56 |
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| minute | cwebber: it is possible that my updates for supporting 2 types of displays have some side effects and you've got an unlucky panel :/ | 01:08 |
| cwebber | josch: hmmm | 01:09 |
| cwebber | minute: oh. Erk | 01:09 |
| minute | cwebber: how urgent is it? i can make a build that is locked to v1 display tomorrow | 01:09 |
| minute | (it's 1am here) | 01:09 |
| cwebber | I mean are there older builds? | 01:09 |
| cwebber | It's not urgent | 01:09 |
| cwebber | Don't stress yourself over this | 01:09 |
| minute | but weird that hdmi wouldn't work | 01:09 |
| minute | cwebber: ok, putting it in my todo | 01:10 |
| cwebber | I just am hoping that I can get a nice pocket reform setup for fosdem | 01:10 |
| minute | i don't believe we have archived old sys images | 01:10 |
| cwebber | Will you be there btw? | 01:10 |
| minute | hmmmm fosdem | 01:10 |
| cwebber | The whole Spritely team will be | 01:10 |
| minute | still considering it! | 01:10 |
| cwebber | Ok well ping me if you decide yes! | 01:11 |
| cwebber | I will buy you a vegan burger if they have the food truck again | 01:11 |
| minute | cwebber: ah one thing... your install should have the previous kernel still on it? | 01:11 |
| minute | cwebber: aww | 01:11 |
| josch | cwebber: here are old system images from one month ago: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/6974/artifacts/browse | 01:11 |
| cwebber | josch: oh lovely I will try that! | 01:12 |
| minute | cwebber: ok will do | 01:12 |
| josch | minute: gitlab does not remove the latest artifacts for a branch, so if you keep a branch in gitlab, the artifacts are also kept and not auto-cleaned | 01:12 |
| cwebber | Nice | 01:12 |
| cwebber | minute: btw I just wanna say that the Reform Next is (almost) everything o have hoped about where laptops would go | 01:13 |
| cwebber | Only one thing left. Gotta get Guix on it! (Even if through nonguix). But that's not on you | 01:13 |
| cwebber | Love the design of the hardware, it's a good direction | 01:13 |
| cwebber | Have a nice rest minute ! | 01:14 |
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| minute | cwebber: thx! | 01:45 |
| minute | good n8 | 01:45 |
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| amospalla | minute: I found last week that using the (last week) newest sysctl firmware (artifact) resulted in battery values not correctly reported and also reporiting lower amps usage. Would flashing on my pocket firmwares until I find when that starts to happen help? | 10:48 |
| amospalla | If so, the currently available artifacts for pocket reform are all safe to flash? | 10:49 |
| minute | amospalla: the most current ones are safe yes | 10:52 |
| amospalla | I'm registering time for battery to deplete, voltage, amperage, temperature, battery percentage during the process. | 10:52 |
| amospalla | ok, I'll measure the last one | 10:52 |
| minute | amospalla: the values will likely be different now that i merged in lots of changes from ch | 10:52 |
| amospalla | ok, I can't really interpret correctly reported amps, I only do use reported amps as an indicator of "It uses now more power than before" than anything. | 10:54 |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.4.142) | 11:01 | |
| amospalla | is there any way to get from the firmware its version or date? | 11:01 |
| amospalla | oh yes, it has the commit :) | 11:06 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 11:31 | |
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| * Guest5378 -> mjw | 13:28 | |
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| minute | ha, i have here a mnt reform 3.0 motherboard which is right now completely powered via a usb-a port of the hub on my pc | 13:57 |
| minute | i can see the boot rom output of a311d in the integrated usb-uart converter | 13:57 |
| minute | so the next step is to figure out why sd card is not detected :D | 13:57 |
| josch | o0 | 13:58 |
| josch | how many ampere does your pc provide for this? | 13:58 |
| minute | idk :D | 13:58 |
| minute | it's a powered usb 3 hub! | 13:58 |
| minute | so i guess it can do a bit | 13:58 |
| minute | but also cool that the new 5v switcher can work with 5v input | 13:59 |
| josch | that is definitely crazy, wow | 13:59 |
| josch | you are working on making motherboard 3.0 mass-producable? | 13:59 |
| minute | (i took the one from reform next) | 13:59 |
| minute | josch: yes it is more than urgent to get those made... | 14:00 |
| minute | some people are waiting for reforms since march 2024 | 14:00 |
| josch | holy moly o0 | 14:00 |
| minute | omg i just had some wrong stuff on the sd card | 14:22 |
| minute | so i have a311d reform booted incl display powered by one usb-a port... | 14:23 |
| gsora | usb *a*? not c?! | 14:25 |
| minute | yeah | 14:25 |
| gsora | that's nuts | 14:25 |
| minute | this powered hub seems to be plenty powered | 14:25 |
| gsora | isn't usb-a max 5v 2a? | 14:25 |
| minute | well 10W should be enough | 14:25 |
| gsora | still, that's amazing considering that includes the screen! | 14:26 |
| minute | yes | 14:26 |
| minute | and i have kernel console of that reform over the same usb port :D | 14:27 |
| minute | also pretty nuts | 14:27 |
| gsora | re: people waiting for reform 2's, i'd say we'd rather have a good motherboard than a defective one earlier | 14:27 |
| gsora | ooh so i could use a usb-a <> usb-a to debug my reform | 14:27 |
| minute | gsora: usb-c to usb-a | 14:27 |
| minute | it's usb-c on the reform side | 14:28 |
| gsora | yes, sorry | 14:28 |
| minute | so yep | 14:28 |
| [tj] | minute: huh I thought it needed more power than that, could we use the nordic ppk2 to do power analysis then? | 14:34 |
| [tj] | it has a 10w max | 14:34 |
| minute | [tj]: yeah i mean you could also remove the display or the keyboard on demand, the backlight takes a lot of the power | 15:09 |
| + networkstring (~networkst@2001:67c:2b44:100:2ecf:67ff:fe27:2be5) | 15:15 | |
| [tj] | we have "fix power management" in our laptop project road map at the freebsd foundation, but I know the answer is just "turn the screen off really enthusiastically" | 15:27 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 15:32 | |
| bkeys | Is there an ETA on shipping the rk3588 modules? | 15:32 |
| cwebber | well bad news about the purple flash issue with my reform | 15:54 |
| cwebber | https://community.mnt.re/t/purple-flash-and-then-screen-doesnt-work-while-booting/2914/3 | 15:54 |
| cwebber | still not booting | 15:54 |
| cwebber | maybe I need to order a new board... | 15:55 |
| jfred | if it is a display thing I wonder if the display connector could have gotten unseated somehow. haven't been inside my pocket reform to that extent yet so I'm not sure how likely that might be | 16:29 |
| jfred | cwebber: ^ | 16:34 |
| minute | cwebber: jfred: yep that is also a possible issue, those cables have a very short are where the pins can connect | 16:38 |
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| cwebber | oh ok I'll look | 17:02 |
| cwebber | the other thing is I was using my friend's high-power usb-c connector | 17:02 |
| cwebber | maybe it was too powerful ;O | 17:02 |
| cwebber | maybe it shorted something | 17:02 |
| cwebber | I dunno. | 17:02 |
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| minute | cwebber: hmmm not super likely | 17:12 |
| minute | cwebber: i think worst case you need a new display | 17:12 |
| jfred | something I've been wondering about... is it possible that firmware updates could reduce the pocket reform's battery drain while powered off? I've noticed that when I leave it in my bag for a few days the batteries end up drained | 17:15 |
| minute | jfred: yes, there's some potential there for the 2x rp2040s | 17:16 |
| minute | the new keyboard fw now is timer interrupt based and should already be better | 17:16 |
| jfred | oh nice! | 17:17 |
| minute | ok, put motherboard 3.0 in my reform | 17:40 |
| minute | it started charging at 50W over usb-c | 17:40 |
| josch | niiiiice | 17:45 |
| minute | ok lets try connecting to a pc over usb-c uart | 17:46 |
| minute | (the system is up and running well with rk5388) | 17:46 |
| josch | you suspect the rk3588 draws too much for your poor USB-A? ;) | 17:47 |
| minute | no i'm not powering it now :D | 17:47 |
| minute | i.e. not powering over usb-c | 17:48 |
| josch | right, you cannot power it over usb-c if you use it as uart | 17:48 |
| minute | only with a splitter cable | 17:49 |
| minute | (which i don't have yet) | 17:49 |
| minute | hmm, USB ACM device is there but no serial comms from rockchip | 17:50 |
| pinsl | are there plans to switch from the rp2040 to the rp2354? it uses less power and has builtin flash | 17:52 |
| minute | pinsl: yes but afaik the chips are not easily available yet? | 17:52 |
| pinsl | minute: yes, seems to be the case currently | 17:54 |
| minute | ohhh there is serial output... but only from uboot because i'm using our silent setup that doesn't show any kernel output on the console | 17:54 |
| minute | Model: MNT Reform 2 with RCORE RK3588 Module | 17:54 |
| minute | DRAM: 32 GiB (effective 31.7 GiB) | 17:54 |
| minute | ok so nice, the 1.5 mbaud work then | 17:55 |
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| BoostisBetter | minute: did you ever get back with me about my order the for the pocket rk upgrade kit? No stress, just making sure I didn't miss anything. | 18:03 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: i did not! | 18:04 |
| minute | we're sorting those orders out at the moment, i.e. making queues etc | 18:04 |
| minute | the first rk3588 pocket reforms for shop orders are being built atm | 18:05 |
| minute | BoostisBetter: your order is pretty recent though | 18:05 |
| minute | josch: what do i need to set up again for headphone jack detect? :D | 18:06 |
| minute | the new mb should be able to do it | 18:06 |
| wickedshell | minute: Regarding the firmware power consumption while off I had actually reached out to jacqueline about sponsoring her (very part time) to do some work on this firmware area since she was looking for extra work. She did point out I should actually touch base with you first if theres a more useful area to focus firmware development on (or person). Is this something you'd be interested in patches for (or a different prefere | 18:06 |
| wickedshell | nce)? | 18:06 |
| BoostisBetter | minute: indeed. That is what I get for flip flopping. But ok, just making sure, and thanks! Like I said, I'm quite happy with the 8m+ | 18:06 |
| minute | wickedshell: oh wow ok | 18:06 |
| + kian (~kian@62.31.226.50) | 18:06 | |
| minute | wickedshell: afaik jacqueline doesn't like the rp2040 that much :D | 18:07 |
| wickedshell | minute: to be fair I'm somewhat in the same boat for passive power reasons. But a hardware change is a larger scope :) | 18:07 |
| wickedshell | And the RP2040's are already out there, there should be some wins available still | 18:08 |
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| minute | wickedshell: ok, in any case i appreciate this... | 18:25 |
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| minute | ha, i was wondering why this reform 3.0 pulls sooo much power but then i saw that the R8 current limit resistor is not installed at all | 18:25 |
| minute | (because i forgot to order it when ordering the bom) | 18:25 |
| wickedshell | minute: If there's a different direction you'd prefer to see some firmware sponsorship go that's completely fine, my intrests are mostly in the power consumption, then some UX stuff, but happy to look at something more generally useful. | 18:27 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@38-146-94-247.echocast.zone) | 18:41 | |
| minute | aha, current limit works perfectly now | 18:42 |
| minute | i put in a 7.15k ohm resistor to gnd and now it's drawing max 42W from the supply | 18:43 |
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| kian | minute: How much current were you drawing /without/ the resistor? | 18:57 |
| minute | kian: the cheap usb-c pd monitor plug thing showed around 52W but then it started turning on and off when the system was under load and charging at the same time. so i think it went over 60W | 18:57 |
| kian | minute: And given current temeratures in Berlin, how excellent space heater is it? | 18:58 |
| minute | kian: not very hot | 18:58 |
| kian | Boo. We're three layers of clothes deep here. Please add a NVidia GPU and an additional 300W power draw. | 19:01 |
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| josch | there was this project where they gave out rack servers disguised as white wall heaters to people and paid them money to have those in their home. The home would get heated and the company was getting computation time on the servers. XD | 19:05 |
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| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:23 | |
| minute | btw cc josch https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-imx8mp-uboot/-/merge_requests/4 | 19:28 |
| kian | It would be a lie if I said the rack servers in the Hackspace were not glorified heaters. | 19:36 |
| josch | minute: did you mean to ping ch instead? :) | 20:06 |
| minute | josch: nope, you! | 20:09 |
| josch | minute: hrm... i don't know what to say -- this is not my area of expertise and i don't even have a pocket reform with imx8mp to try anything out. :) | 20:12 |
| josch | minute: if you have a concrete todo item for me i'll see what i can do | 20:12 |
| josch | (the thing i'm currently working on is reform-emmc-bootstrap which allows to populate/bootstrap an otherwise empty emmc to make a system on nvme bootable from emmc again) | 20:13 |
| ch | minute: did the nitrogen8mp.c start as a copy of something else? | 20:15 |
| minute | ch: a copy of nitrogen8mp.c | 20:15 |
| ch | minute: ah i guess its a copy of what was in the boundarydevices treE? | 20:15 |
| ch | right | 20:15 |
| minute | ch: yeah i guess it should be a patch later, but patches checked into git are not super readable | 20:15 |
| ch | bit hard to review like that, but i'll diff it | 20:15 |
| ch | ack | 20:15 |
| ch | one day i need to understand git subtree or whatever that is | 20:16 |
| ch | fatal: destination path 'reform-imx8mp-uboot' already exists and is not an empty directory. | 20:16 |
| ch | :D | 20:16 |
| ch | boundary-v2022.04-mediatek3 wow, i dont even want to know what they are doing there | 20:24 |
| minute | ch: ah yeah they're making a genio module now | 20:25 |
| minute | https://www.ezurio.com/system-on-module/mediatek-genio | 20:26 |
| ch | ah | 20:29 |
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| ch | somehow uboot code always looks like its the wild wide west | 20:30 |
| minute | it is! | 20:30 |
| minute | anything goes | 20:30 |
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| ryukazou | minute: Has the shipping date for the second batch of RK3588 been confirmed? Apologize for asking again. | 21:07 |
| cwebber | so I removed the zif connector from the pocket reform display and reattached it | 21:10 |
| cwebber | still get the purple flash | 21:10 |
| cwebber | the cable seems much more so attached to the board though | 21:10 |
| cwebber | is it safe/possible to unseat/seat the cable from the main board? | 21:11 |
| minute | ryukazou: working on it. today greta built the first 11 ordered rk3588 pocket reforms, and i ordered some parts that are running low on stock like the wifi cards | 21:18 |
| minute | ryukazou: your order is in place 2 of the upgrade kits queue so that should be processed very soon | 21:19 |
| ryukazou | minute: Awesome, thanks for the update. | 21:21 |
| minute | cwebber: yes, the connector just works a bit differently | 21:22 |
| cwebber | :o | 21:22 |
| ryukazou | I could start build gentoo stage 4 tarball for pocket reform. Need to cross-compile it, since GCC and LLVM are gonna take a very long time to compile on rk3588 | 21:26 |
| cwebber | minute: I'm looking at the assembly manual and it doesn't give any indication of how to plug in or remove the cable | 21:26 |
| cwebber | just a bit nervous of damaging it | 21:26 |
| minute | cwebber: i just made you a little video, uploading | 21:30 |
| cwebber | minute: wow!!! | 21:30 |
| cwebber | :D | 21:30 |
| cwebber | <3 <3 | 21:30 |
| minute | or at least my phone is trying to upload that (to mastodon) | 21:31 |
| minute | cwebber: https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/113794631004331523 | 21:31 |
| minute | cwebber: on the display side that latch is on the opposide side of the connector (weird) | 21:32 |
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| cwebber | minute: this was so awesome | 21:37 |
| cwebber | https://social.coop/@cwebber/113794642120128836 I said a nice thing in response | 21:38 |
| cwebber | it didn't fix it, but now we know | 21:38 |
| cwebber | I'm still getting the purple flash | 21:38 |
| cwebber | on the upside, I've now opened the pocket reform and messed with its guts a bit and hey, it's still having the same issue but at least it's the same issue, and I'm a little less afraid of opening it now | 21:39 |
| ch | there is no pdf with the schematics of the carrier boards, is there? | 21:40 |
| minute | ch: right now you mostly need kicad yeah | 21:40 |
| minute | ch: orrr the handbook | 21:40 |
| minute | ch: chapter 9 https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-handbook.pdf | 21:41 |
| minute | actually https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-handbook/_static/schem/pocket-reform-motherboard.pdf | 21:41 |
| minute | ch: ah or you mean the mezzanine for... imx8mp? rk3588? | 21:41 |
| ch | yeah the mezzanine boards | 21:42 |
| ch | unclear naming from me, again | 21:42 |
| minute | ok so the imx8mp is here of all places, but no pdf https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/tree/master/reform2-imx8mplus?ref_type=heads | 21:42 |
| minute | rk3588 is here https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-rk3588-som/-/blob/main/pdf/reform2-rk3588.pdf?ref_type=heads | 21:43 |
| cwebber | minute: doing a dist-upgrade wouldn't have done a change to u-boot, right? so that's probably not it | 21:43 |
| minute | (opening this makes my i9 pc almost die) | 21:44 |
| minute | cwebber: no, also uboot won't be the issue, if at all then it would be the kernel | 21:44 |
| minute | cwebber: ah right i wanted to ask you if you still have your old kernel in /boot on that machine | 21:44 |
| minute | cwebber: normally it's not just automatically deleted | 21:44 |
| minute | cwebber: can you access stuff on the machine over HDMI or SSH or something still? | 21:44 |
| cwebber | minute: hm, but would putting in a new microsd change that? | 21:45 |
| cwebber | minute: I sadly didn't set up ssh on this, I think... | 21:45 |
| minute | cwebber: yes a new microsd would load the kernel from that instead of the old install | 21:45 |
| minute | i'm just curious which one was the working kernel | 21:46 |
| minute | cwebber: do you have a microHDMI to HDMI cable and a HDMI monitor? | 21:46 |
| cwebber | I have an hdmi and a usb-c dock. guessing that won't work | 21:46 |
| minute | cwebber: then you can pop in a microsd with the latest imx8mp pocket reform image, and after a while maybe the setup wizard or a background image should appear on that | 21:46 |
| cwebber | I could get a microhdmi cable | 21:46 |
| minute | cwebber: then you can press super + enter to get a root shell (in the setup process) | 21:47 |
| cwebber | minute: to ensure it wasn't the old thing I verrrry carefullyyyyyy typed in my old passphrase and then waited a bit then hit hyper + enter and typed "neverball" | 21:47 |
| cwebber | to see if I heard the neverball music | 21:47 |
| cwebber | no dice | 21:47 |
| minute | ohh | 21:47 |
| cwebber | but that feels not quite predictable | 21:47 |
| cwebber | I'll try for the microhdmi cable | 21:47 |
| cwebber | I have a feeling it might not be possible for me to have the pocket fixed by fosdem though, a bit sad | 21:48 |
| minute | cwebber: actually we could just UPS it here and we fix it | 21:48 |
| cwebber | was looking forward to using it on the plane and trying to nerdsnipe the guix community into rallying around the reform series | 21:48 |
| minute | there's warranty... | 21:48 |
| cwebber | minute: oh really? I'm interested in doing that | 21:48 |
| minute | cwebber: ok so if you mail support@mntre.com and say that we chatted on IRC then plomlompom will get that and make you a UPS return label | 21:49 |
| cwebber | <3 | 21:50 |
| minute | cwebber: (and include your original order number, address, some phone number for UPS. i asked them to always ask for that so you can skip a bit of emailing) | 21:50 |
| cwebber | cool | 21:50 |
| cwebber | I will do that | 21:50 |
| cwebber | thank you <3 | 21:50 |
| minute | cwebber: sure thing | 21:50 |
| cwebber | I have high hopes for the Reform Next | 21:50 |
| cwebber | I would love to get to the point where that's standard issue at our org :) | 21:51 |
| minute | yay | 21:51 |
| minute | i'm debugging that one as we speak :D | 21:51 |
| ch | til: kicad-cli sch export pdf | 21:52 |
| cwebber | so then maybe jfred and I can team co-nerdsnipe the entire Guix community into adopting Reforms also ;) | 21:52 |
| cwebber | still gotta get a module that guix actually runs on of course | 21:52 |
| cwebber | even if with nonguix | 21:52 |
| minute | ch: neat | 21:52 |
| jfred | cwebber: :P | 21:54 |
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| svp | once again i seem to be running into something. rcm4, rpi-cm4 + internal hdmi adapter... the screen is extremely green, am i forgetting some connection? already tried reseating everything i could think of. | 23:01 |
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