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| josch | minute: will the pocket reform keyboard be sold by itself in the store? | 08:33 |
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| johl | Greetings from an updated system with encrypted nvm and freshly flashed bootloader. I can now relax, nothing scary happened! Woohoo! | 11:47 |
| aloo_shu | (famous last words) | 11:56 |
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| josch | aloo_shu: lol :D | 12:52 |
| josch | johl: how did you do it? did you just run reform-setup-encrypted-disk and it worked out-of-the-box? | 12:52 |
| johl | josch: Yes :) | 13:00 |
| josch | wow, neat! | 13:00 |
| johl | I'm impressed by the quality of the reform-tools | 13:01 |
| josch | i'm very happy it works for you! :) | 13:02 |
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| lidstah | don't know if anyone is using jellyfin here but https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/releases/tag/v10.11.7 << upgrade due to critical security vulnerability discovered (disclosure in 14 days per their policy) | 14:20 |
| frickler | lidstah: thx for the note. running it in my home net only, but still a good idea to upgrade probably. unless this is a con to get people to deploy the freshly backdoored version - you never know these days | 14:25 |
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| lidstah | frickler: same here, I don't expose much services outside my homelab (and the exposed services get to run in their own vlan). this popped on my feed, probably will update the image tag tonight after work. | 15:14 |
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| + stephano (~stephano@71.238.14.13) | 16:31 | |
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| josch | stephano: do you have your workaround for pocket panel blanking as a patch somewhere? We could have it be built in a MR to reform-debian-packages and use that to let others try it out? | 16:37 |
| stephano | josch Sadly no. I've done quite a few experiments, but I still haven't proven it is a timing issue. It's possible some of the vendor initialization register table that is sent makes sense for the JDI panel but isn't perfect for the Wisecoco panel. I contacted Wisecoco and they were nice enough to send me a "datasheet", but they didn't want to share their init code, which makes sense (I guess). | 16:48 |
| josch | yeah i mean who are you trying to use their products... :/ | 16:49 |
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| stephano | Right, that was my thought. I think from their perspective they sell adapters that connect the displays into HDMI / Audio / USB break-out boards. So the init code would probably fall into their "secret sauce". | 16:52 |
| stephano | I'm also in discussions with Data Modul about procuring displays with PCAP over i2c to create touch displays for the pocket. That would get us a vendor willing to procure displays over the next 5-10 years, including touch, and actually work with us on bring-up / support. | 16:55 |
| stephano | minute: not sure if this ^ is something that MNT Research would be interested in, but let me know if so. | 16:57 |
| MartiniMoe | digitalrane: are you digitalrayne on the forums? Are you willing to point/guide/debug with me about NixOS on the pocket reform? ^^ | 17:07 |
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| ^alex | who's nick sauce | 17:47 |
| siviq | lidstah Hi, checking how is the MNT Reform experience going for you :) . Did you got Debian stable running? I've been doing some side projects on my main laptop, but it became obvious I would prefer to move the 'daily driver' work onto another device, thus eagerly waiting the Reform :D | 17:48 |
| lidstah | siviq: for the moment, I kept the debian unstable running on it, booted the debian stable image yesterday evening on an sd card to check everything worked (it does) so I've a rescue system "just in case" | 18:07 |
| lidstah | booted the openbsd image too, which does boots, but no display | 18:07 |
| lidstah | talked about it with the friend, which asked on the openbsd communications channels and got a bit more of context: | 18:09 |
| lidstah | 23:49:28 ~jca | < k> m: looks like u-boot still has no code to set up the framebuffer | 18:09 |
| lidstah | 23:49:33 ~jca | < k> so no simplefb on rk3588 | 18:09 |
| lidstah | the rest is in French but that was what we thought | 18:10 |
| + hlep (~hlep@user/hlep) | 18:10 | |
| lidstah | but as barebox seems to set up the framebuffer, there might be a way to get a fb for wscons | 18:11 |
| lidstah | *efi framebuffer | 18:12 |
| lidstah | s/which/who/ (I always mix them) | 18:13 |
| lidstah | siviq: and well, for the moment, the experience is quite positive, that machine is amazing | 18:13 |
| lidstah | the keyboard is great, the trackball is not that hard to get used too (for someone who never used a trackball), the rk3588 performance is really good - got a good bunch of emulators running, luanti and openmw (morrowind) run without a hitch, and everything I need to work is here and comfy (ssh, netbird, browsers, emacs because orgmode and vim because that's what I use since 34 years) | 18:17 |
| lidstah | the integrated emmc performance is quite impressive too, emmc has gone a long way, and the raspberry pi branded NVMe ssd works without a hitch | 18:18 |
| lidstah | so I'm really happy with it :) | 18:19 |
| lidstah | siviq: last but not least, the warning in the manual about the headphones and setting volume output to around 30% is *not | 18:25 |
| lidstah | siviq: last but not least, the warning in the manual about the headphones and setting volume output to around 30% is *not* a joke :D | 18:25 |
| lidstah | damn | 18:25 |
| lidstah | sorry for the misstyping, still not yet completely used to the "*" key placement (azerty keyboard here) | 18:26 |
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| siviq | lidstah Cool. Sounds like you're having a great time :) The trackball is something I have distant memory of, but believe it's easy to get used to. There is trackpad at Mouser, if you're interested into switching. | 19:02 |
| lidstah | siviq: indeed I'm having a great time :D and the trackball wasn't hard to get used to (in fact, it's really precise, I do like it a lot). For gaming tho, an usb mouse might be better :D | 19:11 |
| lidstah | siviq: did you had news about when yours will be delivered? | 19:14 |
| josch | lidstah: it makes me very happy to hear about your positive experiences so far -- shout if you find anything that i can improve on the Debian/reform-tools side of things :) | 19:32 |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 19:46 | |
| lidstah | josch: don't worry, I'm French. Shouting about problems is a specialty here! :D - more seriously, reform-check is on the green side here, so nothing yet to update/patch/etc. I'll probably ask too much questions when I'll have to flash firmwares and such ^^' (I'm always a bit weary/meticulous when I have to flash firmwares) | 19:53 |
| jah | lidstah: no suprise you like "reform(es)"! (sorry) | 19:54 |
| lidstah | jah: nice one :) | 19:56 |
| lidstah | thanks for the laugh :D | 19:56 |
| kfx | is there a bootloader (u-boot/edk2/barebox) with early video on the reform 2 rk3588 dsi? | 20:13 |
| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 20:13 | |
| siviq | lidstah There are no news about delivery yet, but given I'm near the end of the queue, hoping by the end of April. Either way, once it gets warmer I wont be having much free time for it, as there is house renovation project incoming. Yesterday started using 3D application name "Sweet Home 3D" to create floor and interior plans. It runs fine on | 20:14 |
| siviq | Debian 13 Stable. | 20:14 |
| josch | kfx: there is https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-barebox/ | 20:16 |
| lidstah | siviq: ahah house renovation... still have to start the goddamn 70's bathroom here (usable and clean, mind me, but... ugly :D) | 20:18 |
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| kfx | josch: thanks! no pipelines, do you know which branch I should build? | 21:35 |
| josch | kfx: i built ci-202601 last time i tried | 21:40 |
| kfx | thanks | 21:40 |
| josch | kfx: but this is for the pocket reform (despite the name in the device tree) | 21:40 |
| josch | kfx: on classic, it will enable only hdmi, not dp or dsi->edp yet | 21:41 |
| josch | kfx: the "docs" are some bits in irc history for example in https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2026-01-21.log.html or https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2026-01-23.log.html or https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2026-01-25.log.html | 21:46 |
| josch | 2026-01-28 and 2026-01-31 also has some bits | 21:46 |
| lidstah | josch: "on classic, it will enable only hdmi" -> and now I want to test my openbsd sd card with the reform and an hdmi screen | 21:48 |
| lidstah | should make tinkering easier | 21:48 |
| josch | yeees do iiiiit! :D | 21:49 |
| lidstah | this week end, I'm almost off to bed (waking up at 6 o'clock tomorrow, and 47 years old so waaaay less resistant than in my 30's | 21:50 |
| lidstah | but yeah, if it works, that means that tinkering with the openbsd kernel will be way easier | 21:51 |
| lidstah | might try it tomorrow evening | 21:51 |
| lidstah | if I'm home before 10am | 21:51 |
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| josch | don't scare me of my 40-ies! :D | 21:52 |
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| lidstah | lol, don't worry - it's in the mindset :), but yeah, I've slept an average 4h since monday so sleep deprieval starts to take its toll | 21:53 |
| josch | oh no XD | 21:54 |
| - f_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (16abab341f@postmarketOS/funderscore) | 21:54 | |
| lidstah | not sure it's "deprieval" | 21:54 |
| + f_ (16abab341f@postmarketOS/funderscore) | 21:55 | |
| lidstah | yeah, lack of sleep should be more appropriate | 21:55 |
| lidstah | (if you needed a proof of it, here you go :p) | 21:55 |
| lidstah | but thanks for the idea, didn't checked yesterday evening (screens are upstairs in my "office"). Will do | 21:58 |
| lidstah | josch: small question before going to sleep, but the pocket reform uses hdmi for its internal screen, right? wheras the classic uses DSI ? or am I just wrong? | 22:03 |
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| josch | lidstah: no, pocket uses mipi-dsi | 22:12 |
| josch | whoops, pocket-reform-handbook has "swaymsg output eDP-1 disable" which is wrong | 22:13 |
| lidstah | josch: ah thanks | 22:16 |
| lidstah | off to bed here but thanks for the info :) | 22:16 |
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| + pomel0 (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 22:17 | |
| josch | fixed in https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform-handbook/-/merge_requests/10 | 22:17 |
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| Svp | barebox on i.mx8mq would also be nice to have | 23:27 |
| josch | yes, but on imx8mq there is less of a motivation because there you have display support in u-boot | 23:31 |
| - oliverD (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd) | 23:37 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@173.206.232.56) | 23:37 | |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@173.206.232.56) | 23:42 | |
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