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| - bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~Thunderbi@73.sub-174-229-21.myvzw.com) | 07:10 | |
| + reform22216 (~moxie@c-73-225-241-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 07:11 | |
| reform22216 | exit | 07:14 |
|---|---|---|
| reform22216 | exit | 07:14 |
| josch | reform22216: try /exit | 07:14 |
| reform22216 | thank you! | 07:15 |
| josch | :) | 07:15 |
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| + reform3246 (~moxie@c-73-225-241-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 07:59 | |
| reform3246 | Is there a way to troubleshoot why my mnt pocket reform's keyboard doesn't always work? | 08:01 |
| josch | reform3246: what are the symptoms? | 08:02 |
| josch | reform3246: are you on the latest firmwares? | 08:02 |
| reform3246 | I just ran the upgrade. | 08:05 |
| reform3246 | Logged in after shutdown then it wasn'tnaccepting keyboard input. | 08:06 |
| reform3246 | I don | 08:06 |
| reform3246 | 't know much about hardware/firmware coding is there a way to print logs? | 08:10 |
| josch | you just started using your pocket or has it worked fine before and only now did it stop working? | 08:10 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@73.sub-174-229-21.myvzw.com) | 08:10 | |
| josch | you could upload the output of running "sudo reform-check" to a pastebin and then put the link here -- this will show us your firmware version and other information about your system | 08:10 |
| reform3246 | It has worked fine for the most part. There's bin some finicky keyboard stuff but turning it on and off again helps | 08:12 |
| reform3246 | I'll go try that. | 08:17 |
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| + reform29771 (~moxie@c-73-225-241-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 08:37 | |
| reform29771 | Hi, I haven | 08:38 |
| reform29771 | t figured out how to use pastebin properly from cli but I | 08:39 |
| reform29771 | ve saved the results from the check as a .txt | 08:39 |
| josch | if you want to use my pastebin you could run: | 08:40 |
| josch | curl -F 'arg=<-' https://mister-muffin.de/paste < yourtextfile.txt | 08:40 |
| josch | you can copy from cli by selecting the text and then right clicking and pressing copy in the context menu | 08:40 |
| josch | sorry, i have to run | 08:41 |
| reform29771 | thank you for your help! | 08:41 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 12:19 | |
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| - jordi (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~jordi@user/kxtells) | 12:55 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 12:56 | |
| + gustav25 (~gustav@c-78-82-54-48.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| josch | minute: i observed (reminded by a recent community forum post) that some people run neofetch forks like hyfetch or fastfetch to share screenshots and system information. Since these tools are usually tiny size-wise, do you think it would make sense to add one of these neofetch forks to the default system image? | 13:40 |
| josch | And if yes, do you have an opinion on which one you would like? fastfetch seems to be the most popular. hyfetch has lgbtq+ colors but needs to be configured at first use (though we could ship a default config in /etc/skel) | 13:40 |
| gordon1 | josch: i would also highly recommend to add wgetpaste if it is available in the repos | 13:51 |
| josch | gordon1: what does wgetpaste do better than pastebinit? | 13:55 |
| gordon1 | josch: oh, pastebinit also works, i just thought there isnt anything so you ended up doing curl thing | 13:56 |
| gordon1 | i just think something that handles picking up pastebins without requiring user to think which one to pick is good for debugging | 13:57 |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 13:58 | |
| josch | gordon1: i recommended curl because i expected there to be a higher chance for curl being installed | 13:58 |
| - arminweigl (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl) | 14:14 | |
| gordon1 | using pastebin scripts are probably more user-friendly IMO | 14:15 |
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| * jah -> jahkosha | 15:32 | |
| * jahkosha -> jah | 15:32 | |
| * Guest2700 -> mjw | 15:39 | |
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| minute | TIL there is gnome-randr | 15:46 |
| minute | josch: i say ship the one you like most | 15:47 |
| + reform11780 (~moxie@c-73-225-241-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 17:29 | |
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| + reform3349 (~moxie@c-73-225-241-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) | 17:34 | |
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| reform3349 | Hi I was talking to josch yesterday but I needed to sleep as I'm in UTC -8. Should I expect a response here or somewhere else? | 17:47 |
| josch | reform3349: if you do not receive any response here, contact MNT here: https://support.mnt.re/ | 18:03 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 18:04 | |
| reform3349 | ok | 18:05 |
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| * wielaard -> mjw | 18:15 | |
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| - cellmoose (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (cellmoose@znc.tilde.green) | 19:38 | |
| minute | we just finished the 2nd edition of pocket reform handbook. hopefully online in a few minutes | 19:39 |
| grimmware | oh, my screen damage appears to be repairing itself :) | 19:55 |
| minute | grimmware: oh? | 20:08 |
| grimmware | yeah the black line was starting at the bottom and propogating all the way up but it appears to be gradually resolving itself from the bottom | 20:12 |
| * wielaard -> mjw | 20:12 | |
| - Svp (QUIT: Quit: Gateway shutdown) (~svp@2002:4f07:f0bd:0:95e7:dc62:c203:a24) | 20:12 | |
| - AbortRetryFail (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 3.6) (~arf@146.ip-149-56-132.net) | 20:25 | |
| josch | minute: if it's a new version/edition, could you add a tag so that I can package it and upload it to Debian as well? Thank you! | 20:49 |
| josch | "Until RISC architecture will change everything" -- hah :D | 20:59 |
| josch | minute: and thank you for bringing back a lot of things that previously got deleted :) | 20:59 |
| MartiniMoe | minute: theres also wdisplays as a gui to configure display on wayland compositors | 21:01 |
| MartiniMoe | (if thats what youve been looking for; if not, ignore my comment ^^) | 21:01 |
| minute | MartiniMoe: i was looking for a commandline tool to change gnome display settings, gnome doesn't use the same protocol as wlroots i think | 21:02 |
| minute | josch: yeah, i'm gonna wait till monday to see if there are any errors found | 21:02 |
| MartiniMoe | minute: oh I see, nvm then :D | 21:02 |
| - buckket (QUIT: Quit: buckket) (~buckket@vps.buckket.org) | 21:02 | |
| josch | changing brightness when rolling trackball vertically is gone from the pocket reform keyboard? | 21:02 |
| + buckket (~buckket@vps.buckket.org) | 21:03 | |
| + marty_mcfly88 (~user@172.59.99.202) | 21:43 | |
| minute | josch: no | 21:54 |
| minute | josch: but maybe an unwanted side effect of reform-power-daemon if you're on the newest main branch of kbd fw | 21:54 |
| josch | minute: i'm asking because it's gone from the pocket reform handbook (not because i tried it and it didn't work) | 21:55 |
| minute | huh | 21:55 |
| minute | it shouldn't be gone | 21:55 |
| minute | it's here in the sway shortcuts list https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-handbook/desktops.html#the-sway-desktop | 21:56 |
| minute | and here in the gnome shortcuts list https://mntre.com/documentation/pocket-reform-handbook/desktops.html#the-gnome-desktop | 21:56 |
| minute | albeit the layout in the web version there is a bit broken | 21:56 |
| josch | minute: removed in this commit https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform-handbook/-/commit/f6ccf725aa219bd07200bdf3a6d563f65e46e809 see src/source/desktops.rst | 21:56 |
| josch | oh wait | 21:57 |
| josch | it's not gone | 21:57 |
| josch | it's just so much indented that i have to scroll XD | 21:57 |
| minute | it's just weird tabification yeah | 21:57 |
| minute | will need to fix that somehow soon | 21:58 |
| josch | sorry, i am only reading the textual diff not the rendering XD | 21:58 |
| minute | wow :D | 21:59 |
| + cellmoose (cellmoose@tilde.green) | 21:59 | |
| josch | i don't know a good way to diff html or pdf :( | 22:01 |
| kfx | when I ported stuff from latex to troff I used https://vslavik.github.io/diff-pdf/ | 22:05 |
| - gustav25 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-78-82-54-48.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| cwebber | so, pretty cool | 22:57 |
| cwebber | jfred: your plate fixed the wifi issue for me! | 22:57 |
| cwebber | I stopped butter knife scrapin' | 22:57 |
| cwebber | also josch I have your image installed with Debian Stable which I am pretty excited about! But I am confused about a couple of things. It doesn't have the MNT debian channel? but it seems to have booted fine! but also I don't see a reform-tools package but there must have been one on the usb key | 22:58 |
| cwebber | but if I cat /etc/apt/sources.list I don't see any mnt debian things | 22:58 |
| cwebber | is debian stable "enough" to boot the pocket these days? *should* i be getting anything from the specialized repos? | 22:59 |
| cwebber | I would like to be able to run some of the MNT utils... is the best way to do that from compiling them myself from the git repo? | 22:59 |
| cwebber | I'd eventually like to move to guix as my distro on the reform but I need to baby steps my way there | 22:59 |
| josch | cwebber: i don't understand what is the mnt debian channel? | 23:00 |
| josch | you don't see mnt debian things but what do you see that you don't expect? | 23:01 |
| josch | cwebber: re "stable enough" -- I use Trixie on my RK3588 pocket reform | 23:01 |
| cwebber | as in how do I get the reform-utils package, etc | 23:01 |
| josch | cwebber: which MNT utils do you want to run that you do not see available? | 23:01 |
| cwebber | I don't see any of the reform utils :) | 23:01 |
| josch | cwebber: you mean reform-tools? how did you install it in a way that does not have it installeds | 23:02 |
| cwebber | I'm awfully confused myself | 23:02 |
| cwebber | I'm going to go look again | 23:02 |
| cwebber | wow | 23:04 |
| cwebber | what a fail on my part | 23:04 |
| cwebber | I was typing mnt-tools and mnt-<TAB> | 23:04 |
| cwebber | and I was like where is everything | 23:04 |
| cwebber | josch: everything is there I'm just being a confused little bean | 23:04 |
| josch | cwebber: okay, let me know when you find bugs | 23:09 |
| + spew (~spew@user/spew) | 23:10 | |
| - spew (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 4.7.2) (~spew@user/spew) | 23:20 | |
| + Svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 23:28 | |
| UsrBinAnnika | new pocket handbook :D the section on graphical desktops talks about gdm but it looks like i'm using greetd. looks like i don't even have gdm3 installed | 23:57 |
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