2025-08-31.log

+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)00:01
joschi ended up putting them into the imx8mq directory here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/13600:29
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+ aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@85.51.18.153)01:33
minutejosch: that's fine.01:49
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+ reform31317 (~triston@2600:1003:b4ea:15d0:2476:b139:4b39:3f43)06:25
reform31317hey my pocket reform appears to be stuck at max brightness and brightnessctl doesnt seem to recognize that it should be a value from 0 to 100 instead of 0 to 106:28
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- aloo_shu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~aloo_shu@85.51.18.153)08:30
joschlook, luks unlock in plymouth with a friendly textbox for the passphrase: https://mister-muffin.de/p/u5en.jpg09:06
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+ casparvitch (~casparvit@user/casparvitch)10:24
+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)10:38
+ hlep (~hlep@user/hlep)11:14
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+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)11:35
bremnertoo mainstream :)11:35
bremnercoincidentally I have a weird bug on one of my amd64 debian installs where plymouth shows up on the wrong virtual console11:36
+ aloo_shu (~aloo_shu@85.51.18.153)11:41
f_have you heard of unl0kr?11:46
- hlep (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~hlep@user/hlep)12:05
+ reform2617 (~paul@176.46-46-197.customer.lyse.net)12:15
joschsounds like a website from 2004 :)12:25
f_it doesn't have a website12:28
f_this unl0kr :) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Unl0kr12:28
joschmight be interesting for the upcoming MNT Touch Reform12:32
- murphnj (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~murph@user/murphnj)12:33
+ murph_nj (~murph@pool-108-35-93-154.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)12:33
- reform2617 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~paul@176.46-46-197.customer.lyse.net)12:34
f_TOUCH reform?12:38
f_What is it about?12:38
f_touchscreen laptops?12:38
joschf_: tablet reform12:39
f_oh that's cool12:39
joschf_: then i maybe misunderstood what unl0kr is -- it looks like made for touchscreens so that you can enter your luks passphrase12:39
f_I'm excited to see how it ends up looking12:39
f_you did not misunderstand anything12:39
f_unl0kr works on touchscreens and boring ol' laptops too12:39
joschhow does it work on boring old laptops?12:40
joschit has usb mouse support?12:40
f_you enter your password using your keyboard12:40
f_yes it has mouse support12:40
joschbut... if my boring old laptop has a keyboard, why do i need a touchscreen keyboard on my screen? :)12:40
f_the touchscreen keyboard does not show up if you have a keyboard12:40
f_but you can still activate it12:40
f_there are also some themes for it https://gitlab.postmarketos.org/postmarketOS/buffybox/-/tree/master/unl0kr/screenshots12:43
+ Guest68 (~Guest68@p200300ee572785009958505ba4d5f052.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)12:58
grimmwarejosch, minute: I'm trying to figure out how to remove the amd64 etc build parameters from my CI/CD for reform-debian-packages but I can't see any of that stuff in the configuration. Other than being totally unnecessary for testing out kernel builds, it's causing the total build to time out so I can't use reprepro13:23
joschi don't know whether gitlab allows disabling jobs depending on the availability of CI runners13:26
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)13:49
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abortretryfailHuh, PostmarketOS on A311D Reform? I would absolutely run that... 👀22:01
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@134.22.115.162)22:05
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+ reform21369 (~paul@176.46-46-197.customer.lyse.net)23:06
reform21369hi23:06
* reform21369 -> paul23:06
* paul -> Guest982323:06
joschhi paul aka Guest9823 23:07
Guest9823Are there any thermal issues with the new Rcore revision? I get artifacts when I play minetest for longer than 10 hours. Temp went up to almost 70 degrees.23:08
joschGuest9823: when it gets too hot (aka 85°C) the cpu automatically throttles23:09
Guest9823I get some weird horizontal lines.23:09
joschthe "graphics card" on the board is not a popular one when comparing it to what is usually used in a linux desktop so it's entirely possible that there are rendering bugs remaining that affect minetest. Other similar issues have been found relatively frequently in the past.23:11
joschfor example just 7 days ago there was a report of a rendering bug with the etnaviv driver (not used by rk3588 which is using panfrost) in glxgears: https://mister-muffin.de/p/J6hf.png23:14
Guest9823I noticed it first in scummvm yesterday but it magically seemed to go away over night. I messed a bunch with the installed default packages (I removed a lot related to gnome.) Thought at first that might be it. Switched back and forth between wayland and X but that didn't help either.23:15
Guest9823Definitely other artifacts, i.e. green or black horizontal lines that show up for a single frame. I guess I have to record in slow motion to capture it.23:16
joschGuest9823: there is #panfrost on OFTC where people who might find your problem interesting usually idle23:18
minuteGuest9823: feel free to show some pictures23:19
minutejosch: Guest9823: it doesn't have to be GPU, can also be display pipeline (DSI, eDP)23:19
joschindeed23:19
joschpictures will help :)23:20
minute70 degrees is no problem for these chips normally23:20
minutefrom 100 degrees things get tricky23:20
joschGuest9823: another irc user, erle, was recently talking about their own minetest/luanti experience: https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2025-08-20.log.html#t03:17:18 (but that's with etnaviv, not on rk3588)23:22
Guest9823That's so fucking weird. I cannot reproduce it now. Talk about Vorfuehreffekt. I didn't ever expect anyone on IRC to actually reply, no one ever did in decades. But I'll try to film it and post a link here.23:23
joschGuest9823: alternatively, there is also the community forum23:25
- bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~Thunderbi@134.22.115.162)23:25
joschGuest9823: irc is actually very active, i don't think we have a day without activity23:25
Guest9823I'll report back once I have footage. 23:32
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+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)23:54

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