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| vagrantc | sevan: yeah, that's the theory ... but you also have to be aware of where the image ends so it does not get clobbered ... that's why secondary offsets are really helpful | 00:13 |
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| sevan | vagrantc: ah, yeah. fun :) | 00:15 |
| vagrantc | the fosdem talk i linked to explained it pretty well | 00:18 |
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| sevan | thanks, I'll take a look. | 00:21 |
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| jfred | Well, I didn't bring the rest of the Reform with me to the hackerspace so I can't say for sure yet, but I think I've fixed my Reform! :D | 03:51 |
| jfred | unless I've inadvertently damaged something in my repair attempts | 03:51 |
| jfred | but I don't *think* I have | 03:51 |
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| josch | minute: something is wrong with your CI again: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines | 04:45 |
| + gnou_liber (~gnou_libe@223.pool85-50-3.static.orange.es) | 04:45 | |
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| jfred | Okay, looks healthier at least! One cell is bouncing between nominal voltage and 4V which does seem high, but I think that might be a side effect of it trying to balance 7 partly discharged cells with one mostly charged cell. Should probably go charge them all externally tomorrow | 05:33 |
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| + bgs (~bgs@212-85-160-171.dynamic.telemach.net) | 07:33 | |
| pandora[m] | Yeah the balancing path is not ideal to balance big differences due to the small current and big battery capacity | 07:55 |
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| josch | vagrantc: reading through your "what doesn't work on the pinebook" list i feel really good about the few things that don't work on the reform :D | 08:08 |
| vagrantc | josch: heh. | 08:09 |
| vagrantc | what's exciting about the reform is how modular it is ... it is not infeasible to use a different wifi module ... or keyboard ... or mouse/trackpad/trackball/etc. | 08:10 |
| Booster[m] | one unfortunate side effect of my use of the Reform is how much it has made me want a trackball on my other laptops. Now I fantasize about stuffing a Framework mainboard in mine. | 08:11 |
| Booster[m] | trackballs are just so versatile. | 08:11 |
| josch | vagrantc: oh gosh your talk is an mmdebstrap advert XD | 08:13 |
| vagrantc | josch: hah! | 08:13 |
| vagrantc | josch: i think at the time i wrote it i was hoping to replace all of debian-live and debian-installer with mmdebstrap wrappers :) | 08:14 |
| vagrantc | josch: i am less ambitious now. | 08:14 |
| josch | vagrantc: your talk was in august 2021, right? https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=mmdebstrap | 08:15 |
| josch | finally know where that spike comes from ;) | 08:15 |
| vagrantc | :) | 08:16 |
| josch | vagrantc: no worries, helmut grohne rewrote debian-installer with mmdebstrap with his debvm :) | 08:16 |
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| * mark_ -> mjw | 10:56 | |
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| Boostisbetter | The CM4 is interesting to me, but its inability to suspend means it is an instant no for me. | 12:17 |
| josch | Boostisbetter: isn't the bananapi much nicer than the rpi cm4? | 12:19 |
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| Boostisbetter | josch: I need to look, it probably is, but it probably still doesn't embrace any kind of low power state, and that for me is just no bueno. | 12:20 |
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| + sbates (~sbates@user/sbates) | 13:06 | |
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| + eery (~eery@77.137.65.251) | 13:55 | |
| minute | Boostisbetter: the a311d does actually have suspend | 13:59 |
| eery | Oh that is really tempting - 2x CPU/GPU performance and GL 3 would take my reform from performing adequately to being buttery smooth | 13:59 |
| minute | i still have to try/debug that though | 13:59 |
| Boostisbetter | That's awesome! Count me interested! | 14:00 |
| eery | is the module shipping now/soon? | 14:01 |
| - mtm (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~mtm@c-71-228-84-213.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) | 14:03 | |
| minute | bizzare https://discourse.coreelec.org/t/coreelec-bl301-wake-up-feature-inject-bl301/6321 | 14:03 |
| minute | eery: soon yes | 14:03 |
| minute | eery: the bpi cm4 is easy for us to buy and is stocked by the distributor | 14:03 |
| minute | i just want to collect a few more orders so the heatsink doesn't get mega expensive for us | 14:04 |
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| minute | (it's cnc milled) | 14:04 |
| eery | okay, just asking since I'm away from my main residence so if I bought one I'd need to decide to which half of the planet to ship to lol | 14:05 |
| eery | dumb question - is the CM4 heatsink different from the boundary heatsink? | 14:21 |
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| - sbates (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~sbates@user/sbates) | 14:37 | |
| minute | eery: yes, there is a new "universal" heatsink | 14:53 |
| eery | gotcha, the "universal" word confused me a little (wasn't sure if it meant a new heatsink or that the original was also a "universal" heatsink) | 14:56 |
| minute | ah | 15:01 |
| minute | good point! | 15:01 |
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| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 15:21 | |
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| Booster[m] | minute: can you get the cm4 in the 8gb RAM variant? | 15:34 |
| minute | Booster[m]: do you mean bpi cm4? | 15:34 |
| minute | a311d is limited to 4GB | 15:34 |
| Booster[m] | Bummer! Looking forward to the pocket's 8! | 15:35 |
| minute | there will be a cm4 with a311d2 from bananapi and 8GB, but it's not yet supported in mainline linux | 15:40 |
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| AbortRetryFail | how's the built-in wifi on that board? | 16:23 |
| AbortRetryFail | (bpi cm4, I mean) | 16:23 |
| minute | AbortRetryFail: it's ok, but i need to fix something with the mainline driver still | 16:24 |
| minute | reception is good | 16:24 |
| vkoskiv | The lack of 2nd PCI slot caveat could be followed with the info that it's not needed, as there's that built-in wifi | 16:24 |
| vagrantc | luckily there is not enough memory on the bpi cm4 to tempt me into yet another quirky project :) | 16:25 |
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| minute | vkoskiv: yep, true | 17:16 |
| minute | vagrantc: a pity! | 17:17 |
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| + nottheoilrig (~nottheoil@node-1w7jr9ujcsmbjl4enh4ae1wek.ipv6.telus.net) | 17:38 | |
| vagrantc | i have struggled to really commit to the mnt/reform for whatever reason ... it is so almost maybe nearly there :/ | 17:43 |
| vagrantc | ACTION waves | 17:46 |
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| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:11 | |
| Boostisbetter | hi vagrantc! I hear ya, the Reform takes some warming up to, but once you get there, it is awesome. I mean the design alone has me into it. | 19:26 |
| Boostisbetter | It reminds me of a glorious thinkpad so much. | 19:26 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 19:33 | |
| vkoskiv | So does the a311d support a newer OpenGL version or the same as imx8mq | 19:56 |
| vkoskiv | Blender 3.x would be fun to have on here. | 19:57 |
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| josch | Boostisbetter: you do not need to convince vagrantc -- vagrant has a whole zoo of embedded arm boards at home :) | 21:05 |
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| minute | vkoskiv: it supports GL3.1, but blender will still not run, as it needs geometry shaders | 21:30 |
| vagrantc | i'm trying to cut back, honestly. :) | 21:38 |
| sigrid | minute: https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2022-09-29-rkx7-showcase.html can be updated, the pr that is said to be "pending" was actually merged - https://github.com/litex-hub/litex-boards/pull/431 | 21:41 |
| + sbates (~sbates@user/sbates) | 21:42 | |
| minute | sigrid: thx | 21:42 |
| minute | vagrantc: reform gets a lot more snappy with a311d! | 21:42 |
| vagrantc | i found it snappy enough, i just would run out of ram :) | 21:46 |
| vagrantc | anyways ... i will probably wait a while for a bigger upgrade ... although the pine64 quartz64 module seemed tempting | 21:47 |
| vagrantc | i think a bigger blocker for me is getting support more completely merged into debian ... and i haven't carved out enough time to help more with that | 21:48 |
| vagrantc | e.g. support for the existing very close imx8 based one | 21:48 |
| vagrantc | had a brief window where the u-boot support looked workable ... but then realized the licensing on the ddr blobs was kind of a blocker | 21:50 |
| vagrantc | though obviously a bring-your-own u-boot would be an option | 21:50 |
| vagrantc | is upstream support for linux any better in 6.2 or 6.3 than 6.1? | 21:52 |
| vagrantc | i could take another stab at a guix kernel :) | 21:52 |
| vagrantc | had a more-or-less working one a few months back | 21:53 |
| vagrantc | er, a guix linux kernel ... i'm not proposing to try hurd any time soon :) | 21:54 |
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| josch | vagrantc: none of the patches we carry got merged in 6.2 or 6.3 | 22:32 |
| vagrantc | :( | 22:36 |
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| + gnou_liber (~gnou_libe@223.pool85-50-3.static.orange.es) | 23:13 | |
| minute | r. mader sent me this https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1833354 | 23:47 |
| minute | firefox is getting hw video decode support on arm | 23:47 |
| josch | minute: m2m is not what is needed for hantro though | 23:50 |
| josch | m2m is also what ffmpeg can already do out-of-the-box but it needs to be patched for v4l2-request support | 23:51 |
| sbates | I just ran `reform-flash-rescue` and afterwards mounted the eMMC root partition (mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /mnt) and looked at the /mnt/etc/fstab. I see commented out lines referencing /dev/mmcblk1p2 and /dev/mmcblk1p1. Does that mean that the rescue system image has an /etc/fstab that points to the sd-card? Am I understanding properly? | 23:53 |
| sbates | It now has entries for /dev/mmcblk0p2 and /dev/mmcblk0p1 but I was interested in the commented out lines | 23:55 |
| josch | sbates: read the reform-flash-rescue script to understand what it does :) | 23:56 |
| josch | sbates: in short it flashes the image that was meant for the sd-card onto emmc | 23:56 |
| josch | sbates: since the image we build are for the sd-card, they have /dev/mmcblk1pX in /etc/fstab which needs to be changed | 23:56 |
| josch | sbates: that's why at the end of the script "reform-boot-config --emmc emmc" is run to correct the /etc/fstab entries | 23:57 |
| minute | josch: ah damn | 23:57 |
| sbates | if downloads the reform-rescue-system.img.gz -- that's meant for sd-card? | 23:58 |
| sbates | s/if/it/ | 23:58 |
| josch | sbates: yes, the image that MNT builds on the CI is meant to be written to an SD-Card | 23:59 |
| sbates | cool | 23:59 |
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