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| c-keen[m] | oooooh battery boards are on their way?! \o/ | 09:46 |
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| josch | c-keen[m]: https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2022-12-09.log.html#t14:26:49 | 10:03 |
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| josch | progress on the imx8mp! https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/109508210795057315 | 10:18 |
| josch | minute: I don't know why you asked me yesterday whether my firefox is using xwayland but my answer yesterday was wrong. According to swaymsg -t get_tree firefox has "shell": "xwayland" | 10:25 |
| josch | am i missing something that makes firefox work directly in wayland? | 10:25 |
| josch | the reason why my answer yesterday was wrong (today I learned) is that pgrep and pkill are case-sensitive and the process calls itself Xwayland and not xwayland :) | 10:28 |
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| minute | josch: yes, there is an env var to run it directly on wayland | 13:39 |
| josch | minute: uh... are we then missing to export that in https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/blob/main/etc/profile.d/reform.sh | 14:07 |
| josch | ah it's MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 | 14:42 |
| josch | should that variable as well as _JAVA_AWT_WM_NONREPARENTING=1 be exported by default in profile.d/reform.sh that we ship in reform-tools? | 14:44 |
| c-keen[m] | sounds good | 14:53 |
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| bkeys | The Reform is awesome | 21:24 |
| Boostisbetter | Agree, but I have a strong feeling that the Pocket Reform is going to be even more awesomer! | 21:38 |
| belgin | i'd get it, but 6-9 months is too much for me | 21:42 |
| JC[m] | I may get one eventually once I have more expendable income | 21:42 |
| belgin | i don't want to end up like i did with purism | 21:48 |
| belgin | pay now, maybe we'll give you the product in 5 years :D | 21:48 |
| JC[m] | mine is coming uppp :D :D | 21:48 |
| belgin | your what? | 21:48 |
| belgin | reform? | 21:49 |
| JC[m] | ordered mine march 2019 | 21:49 |
| JC[m] | l5 | 21:49 |
| Boostisbetter | I mean I did get my L5, but I've been burned by Purism with the Librem 13 I got. | 21:49 |
| belgin | oh librem 5 | 21:49 |
| Boostisbetter | MNT has never burned me. | 21:49 |
| belgin | yes i believe they are well intended | 21:49 |
| belgin | i just don't want to take any more risks | 21:49 |
| JC[m] | yeah, my librem 13 has very poor hinges. the brass anchors pulled out of the plastic anchor...points? | 21:50 |
| belgin | librem 13 is the laptop? | 21:50 |
| JC[m] | correct | 21:50 |
| JC[m] | no issues whatsoever with my reform, in comparison | 21:52 |
| JC[m] | but it should be said that the l13 was my daily driver for a couple years | 21:52 |
| JC[m] | now use a librem mini as I require >= 16GB RAM | 21:52 |
| Boostisbetter | my issues with the Librem 13 were many. First the order page said clearly Librem 13 v3 with TPM. What I got was a Librem 13 v2 with a v3 bottom plate and no TPM. | 21:56 |
| Boostisbetter | Then the cable on the display was backing out such that I had to wiggle the display to get it to come on | 21:57 |
| Boostisbetter | I order a new display that cost almost $300 | 21:57 |
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| Boostisbetter | got it, and it was wire spaghetti, nothing from Purism on how to replace the screen. | 21:57 |
| JC[m] | ouch... I'm sorry to hear that | 21:57 |
| Boostisbetter | and now the hinges broke on it as well. | 21:57 |
| JC[m] | yeah, I never heard back in the Support forum on how to fix the brass anchors for the hinge | 21:58 |
| Boostisbetter | The Librem 14 looked like a huge improvement but it seems like a lot of stuff is wrong with it as well. | 21:58 |
| JC[m] | but it seems like a systemic issue | 21:58 |
| Boostisbetter | the forum is just community driven, so not official support ther. | 21:58 |
| Boostisbetter | but I doubt you would get anything from the actual support either. | 21:58 |
| JC[m] | yeah, true | 21:59 |
| vagrantc | if i wanted a workhorse laptop, at this point i'd probably get a framework ... | 22:01 |
| JC[m] | I very much would like to see them succeed, but they put themselves in tricky places sometimes. Not the best PR reps... | 22:01 |
| JC[m] | Still got your librem laptop vagrantc ? | 22:02 |
| vagrantc | yeah, but it's growing quirks left and right | 22:02 |
| vagrantc | the mnt/reform being so repairable and upgradable is really attractive :) | 22:02 |
| JC[m] | definitely! feels like you can toss it in a bag and have the peace of mind knowing the lid won't fall off or the screws won't loosen. | 22:03 |
| vagrantc | mostly use pinebookpro right now ... but eyeing up the imx8mplus module for the mnt/reform with 8gb of ram ... | 22:03 |
| JC[m] | let me know if you'd be willing to meet up with other Reform folks in pdx in January or later. would be nice to have an enthusiast/working group for bug squashing parties, etc. I'll supply food and drinks :) | 22:05 |
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| JC[m] | I have complex feelings about pine, so I haven't bought any of their gear | 22:06 |
| vagrantc | i have a lot of pine64 stuff, and have complex feelings about it too :) | 22:07 |
| JC[m] | the struggle is real | 22:17 |
| minute | belgin: we're working on cutting down delivery times | 22:27 |
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