2022-12-09.log

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joschsway is already running on the imx8mp, nice!!09:22
joschany idea how to name it in places like flash-kernel?09:23
joschthe reform-imx8mq was named "MNT Reform 2"09:23
joschnow we need a different name so that flash-kernel can select the correct dtb for u-boot09:23
joschit would be best if the name was the same as in the freescale/imx8mp-mnt-reform2.dtb that is going to be submitted to linux upstream09:24
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BoostisbetterIs there a way to boot straight into sway? Do we have gdm3 or something in place that can log us in instead of the terminal? Just curious. Not bothered as is. 10:12
minutejosch: currently i name it MNT Reform 2+ but that is probably too subtle10:15
joschminute: for humans maybe but I guess for our scripts it's sufficiently different ;)10:16
joschBoostisbetter: i was thinking that for the reform it would fit to use greetd+wlgreet10:19
minutenice, i see there is also gtkgreet10:22
c-keen[m]ooooh I need to try that10:29
joschminute: if you like gtkgreet better than wlgreet then i can see that i package it for debian10:40
minutejosch: i haven't tried them yet, just from the screenshot it looked like gtkgreet looks more user friendly10:46
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minutefosdem wrote me that there is no more booth space for 2023, as i was late for the deadline :(13:27
minutei am wondering if any of these would share a table https://fosdem.org/2023/news/2022-12-08-accepted-stands-fosdem-2023/13:28
bonfireminute: just read your comment "normal day at MNT..." your actions seem reasonable. not that you need any affirmation, but since my first ux test session in 2018 i've always found MNT messaging and deliverables to be very clear and accurate13:46
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bonfireit's been frustrating that i'm on my (now) 5th set of two dead battery cells, but I see that as due to my weird device usage (allowing the cells to drain) and all-in-all part of R&D and OSW process which i'm very happy to have contributed to :)13:48
bonfirethat said, i'm eager to get the new battery boards ;)13:59
bonfireI recall awhile ago a URL of some provider where one can order their own battery cells (an even longer lasting one) but now can't find my bookmark. Anyone recall this?14:00
bonfires/OSW/OSHW/14:04
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joschbonfire: if by "longer lasting ones" you mean the 2000mAh eremit batteries, then maybe you are looking for these: https://www.eremit.de/p/18650-3-2v-2-000mah-lifepo414:14
minutebonfire: the protected battery boards are in stock now, so you can pick them up next week or i can bring them to HiP if you go there?14:26
joschminute: this means that the yellow alert on https://shop.mntmn.com/products/protected-battery-board is false now? I'm refreshing that page every day so that I can finally click the "add to cart" button. :D14:29
minutejosch: oh, true14:33
joschminute: you also said in the past that you might consider adding the compex wifi module (hard to get) and the 3d printed trackball keys to the shop as well. Is that still on your agenda? I'd like to buy those as well from you. :)14:34
minutethe keys are in the shop since today!14:34
joschhah! nice, thank you!!14:34
minutei'll look into the wifi thing this afternoon14:34
minutejosch: actually i saw the wifi card on amazon yesterday14:35
joschminute: i don't know how much extra work it is to maintain the shop item and then do the logistics of shipping them. But for me i'd rather give you some extra bucks than amazon. :)14:36
minutejosch: we're kinda low on stock i think, so imho go ahead and order off amazon if available 14:37
joschokay!14:37
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minutehttps://submission.fosdem.org/submission/fringe14:49
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joschminute: the order confirmation mails do not include the bank account details :)16:05
bonfireminute: sweet, i'll pick them up next week :)16:22
bonfirejosch: maybe the eremit battery was it, but IIRC the cells I saw prior were dark brown / gray in color16:24
BoostisbetterYeah the 2000 maH batteries from Eremit are brown, and not blue. (Which is kind of a bummer. I like the blue.)16:31
minutejosch: that's true, sorry, but you can find them in the invoice16:41
minuteBoostisbetter: there are colorful battery sleeves i heard!16:41
bonfirehuh the 2000mAh pictured in josch link is purple, unless I have some bigger issues with my screen or PEBKAC16:42
Boostisbetterbonfire, Dark purple and brown look pretty similar. My wife says they are also brown. I guess it could depend on the lighting, etc. 16:47
minutebonfire: they are not that purple in real life16:48
minuteyep16:48
bonfirehuh. ok. thnx!!16:49
joschyeah, the color of the eremit batteries is different from the one in the photos, unfortunately16:51
joschBoostisbetter: if you also want to re-sleeve your cells, i have some leftover heat-shrink tubes :)16:51
bonfireheh maybe they changed the photo from what I remembered16:55
bonfireminute: to clarify "it's been frustrating ... dead battery cells" I mean frustrated with computers + physics, not you / MNT ;)16:56
minutebonfire: yeah i know, and it's very understandable. lets see how long they last in the new battery boards ^^16:57
bonfire:))17:04
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joschokay, so packaging gtkgreet was pretty easy: https://mister-muffin.de/p/bAyF.png21:34
joschi guess the tricky part is to now create a CSS style so that this gtk greeter fits into the default reform sway style :)21:35
minutejosch: heh, we can do that! but great, thanks for packaging!21:35
minutewe have an internal project to make a "beginner friendly" wayfire based desktop as well (as an alternative to sway) and this will play into that i think21:36
ex-parrotI take it xorg is still busted?21:37
minutewho knows!21:44
minutexorg is retrocomputing ;)21:44
minuteaha [    3.757073] ath10k_sdio mmc1:0001:1: Failed to find firmware-N.bin (N between 2 and 6) from ath10k/QCA9377/hw1.0: -221:45
minute[    3.757084] ath10k_sdio mmc1:0001:1: could not fetch firmware files (-2)21:45
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joschmaybe greetd+gtkgreet is a bad idea. I just tried it out and it seems you cannot switch the keyboard layout in the login screen...22:40
minuteah, meh22:43
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joschon the plus side, i found a couple of new bugs by playing around with it :)22:53
joschhttps://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/6422:56
joschand then there is a bug in this line: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/blob/main/reform2-imx8mq/mkuserland.sh#L4722:56
joschthe == operator is a bashism so with this .profile, a login will fail if the login shell is not bash22:57
joschdoes anybody remember whether there is a reason why we overwriter /etc/skel/.profile there instead of putting this line into reform-tools which ships that file?22:57
josch*overwrite22:57
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minutejosch: probably a leftover from the before times23:02
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