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| Boostisbetter | > I think that it will | 00:30 |
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| Boostisbetter | > Rossmann always defends the Framework's compromise on schematics by saying no other laptop has schematics, but the Reform does | 00:30 |
| Boostisbetter | > I don't know if he is aware of the Reform's existence or not | 00:30 |
| Boostisbetter | I am somewhat an insider about that, and the reason Framework gave is legit. Nirav is the real deal. Full disclosure: I'm a community moderator on their forum. | 00:30 |
| Boostisbetter | Still the Reform is great. I love mine and look forward to the pocket | 00:32 |
| minute | worked on LS1028A module for reform in the last two days. debian works fine on emmc but display, ethernet, pcie still need work | 00:34 |
| minute | (8GB ram version) | 00:34 |
| minute | today i made it successfully talk to reforms edp display though (aux channel) | 00:35 |
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| cinap_lenrek | minute: nice :) | 01:19 |
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| bkeys | Boostisbetter: Yeah, I was saying that Rossmann says no laptop gives you the schematics, but that isn't true. I think Rossmann seems like an honest guy so he likely doesn't know that the Reform exists | 03:46 |
| bkeys | minute: That is exciting | 03:47 |
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| kitty3 | yo, just kinda curious if anyone is familiar - has there been any attempts/plans at basing the laptop or something like it off a more open architecture like openpower (or, riscv)? | 08:03 |
| klardotsh | think there was either a forum thread or an IRC chat once about OpenPower; the tl;dr was that it eats too much power, three meals a day, to be an effective laptop platform currently. RISC-V module is on MNT's todo list/future plans, I think with an Xlinx (sp?) chip | 08:04 |
| kitty3 | yeah, thats kinda what I expected tbh ;; shame they couldn't handle the *power* (pun intentional) :P. | 08:06 |
| kitty3 | hm, hadn't heard of xlinx before | 08:06 |
| kitty3 | ah I see | 08:08 |
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| minute | kitty3: everybody is waiting for a useful risc-v soc. allwinner d1 was a first step i guess, but afaik not performant enough for daily tasks? | 10:47 |
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| minute | josch: (cc NanoCodeBug) gonna merge this as i think it is not harmful but will fix resume for a bunch of people https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/20 | 16:31 |
| minute | josch: is this not good to merge yet? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/19 | 16:33 |
| josch | minute: no, this is untested -- i created the MR as a RFC before i work more on it | 16:33 |
| minute | ah cool, i see the reasoning is https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/issues/2 | 16:33 |
| minute | much appreciated | 16:33 |
| josch | there are some interface changes which might need discussion | 16:33 |
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| minute | MNT July Update https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2022-07-01-july-update.html | 18:27 |
| sknebel | "Due to the global chip shortage we had to redesign the keyboard, trackball, trackpad and motherboard" <- so the motherboard redesign got finished? 👀 | 18:28 |
| vkoskiv | That render is just *chef's kiss* | 18:28 |
| kfx | the fact that raspberry pi microcontrollers are the most readily available is almost fatally ironic | 18:34 |
| vkoskiv | The v3 sysimg is now out of beta? | 18:35 |
| cinap_lenrek | does the dom for cm4 have xhci controller? | 18:41 |
| minute | sknebel: not finished yet | 18:41 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: nope, it's USB2 | 18:41 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: one could make a beefed up version with PCIe switch + PCIe USB3 controller | 18:41 |
| cinap_lenrek | arg, yeah, the dreaded dwc controller | 18:41 |
| minute | i mean, a beefed up version of the adapter | 18:41 |
| minute | tsk, forgot to mention 9front in the update | 18:42 |
| minute | but i linked it now: | 18:42 |
| cinap_lenrek | minute: nah, relax | 18:42 |
| cinap_lenrek | minute: its still a work in progress | 18:42 |
| cinap_lenrek | we havnt had a official release yet | 18:42 |
| cinap_lenrek | afaik, the cm4 has a single pcie lane, no? | 18:43 |
| minute | https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2020-05-08-the-much-more-personal-computer.html#system-images-operating-systems | 18:43 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: ok! | 18:43 |
| minute | cinap_lenrek: yes | 18:43 |
| cinap_lenrek | does it go to the nvme slot or the wifi? | 18:43 |
| cinap_lenrek | sorry, the mpcie slot | 18:44 |
| cinap_lenrek | minute: 9front has a working kernel for the pi4, and it somehow works on the cm4 as well, tho i dont have it myself... | 18:45 |
| cinap_lenrek | minute: but i'd consider getting a board | 18:45 |
| cinap_lenrek | i wonder how'd you hook up the panel tho? | 18:46 |
| cinap_lenrek | you'd need some kind of hdmi to edp bridge as well no? | 18:46 |
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| cinap_lenrek | oh, wait | 18:50 |
| cinap_lenrek | the cm4 has mipi dsi! | 18:50 |
| minute | yep | 18:57 |
| minute | i haven't gotten that to work yet though ;) as usual | 18:57 |
| bkeys | You euros out there might be happy to hear that I got a ink tank printer | 19:28 |
| bkeys | Let me say here in the US they really discourage you from getting an ink tank printer | 19:29 |
| bkeys | You really have to go out of your way to get an ink tank printer here | 19:29 |
| minute | haha | 19:29 |
| minute | i use laser printers | 19:29 |
| minute | :D | 19:29 |
| bkeys | Who prints the fancy insturctions that come with Reforms? | 19:30 |
| minute | our really old laser printer | 19:34 |
| minute | only the DIY though | 19:35 |
| minute | the book is printed by pinguin druck | 19:35 |
| minute | it's offset iirc | 19:35 |
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| bkeys | Don't the instructions have color on them? | 20:40 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: the news about the OLKB kb is awesome. Glad to hear that is still making progress. If they intended to support the LPC as well that is even better. | 22:43 |
| minute | bkeys: it's a color laser printer | 22:43 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: News about the RPI progress is also excellent! And Jacqueline's keyboard and custom Reform is also awesome! | 22:43 |
| Boostisbetter | Great news letter! | 22:43 |
| minute | thanks! | 22:44 |
| Boostisbetter | I'm really finding the durable nature of the Reform having me want to take it over the Framework laptop which I love. Yet another benefit from the excellent design. I really can't wait to see that realized in the Pocket Reform as well. | 22:44 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: Did Jacqueline also have USB C charging on her Reform? | 22:54 |
| Boostisbetter | minute: I moderate the Framework forums, and in case you didn't know, the Pocket Reform was being talked about there. | 22:56 |
| Boostisbetter | so it seems the Pocket is making some nice waves. | 22:57 |
| bkeys | minute: How does that work? | 23:01 |
| minute | bkeys: i don't understand the question. it is a normal product you can buy? it has C,M,Y,K toners | 23:44 |
| minute | Boostisbetter: yes, jacqueline's reform has usb-c | 23:44 |
| minute | i'm stuck @ LS1028A. none of the serdes functions work (sgmii of ethernet, pcie, sata). no idea why. | 23:45 |
| minute | probably have to put this on hold unless rbz or nxp can help | 23:45 |
| minute | need to finish the other nlnet project (fpga module) and then i'll be back @ rcm4 | 23:47 |
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