2022-01-10.log

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mntmnbibliocar: thanks!00:33
pkill9will there be a fix for the issue of a lack of low voltage battery cutoff for existing mnt reforms?00:41
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bluerisemntmn: got a Radxa CM3 on the way \o/11:07
bluerisenot sure why they called it CM3 when the adapter is more like CM4...11:08
Boostisbetterpkill9, I though the firmware update does that very thing. Wouldn't the existing Reform just need to update?11:16
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mntmnbluerise: nice11:57
mntmnbluerise: that one has an additional header, no? i haven't looked at what signals are on it... maybe usb3?11:57
blueriseYes11:57
mntmnhttps://wiki.radxa.com/Rock3/CM3/pinout11:58
blueriseThe table is 'incorrect' regarding the connector names11:58
bluerisecolumn 1 & 2 are the original CM4 ones11:58
bluerisecolumn 3 is the additional one11:58
mntmnhmm the pinout makes no sense yes12:01
mntmnmixed up12:02
bluerisehttps://github.com/radxa/radxa-cm3-projects/tree/main/radxa-cm3-io12:02
mntmnohh they also have eDP on that extra connector12:02
bluerisethese board design files for their own carrier board probably will help you12:02
blueriseyeah, RK3566 has eDP ;)12:02
bluerisedamn mipi :P12:03
mntmnhehehe12:03
mntmnbtw you probably knew that, but from my experiments with the mipi->edp stuff (with fpga), if you get colorbars it means that mipi clock is running ;)12:03
mntmnand also that the pixelclock is correct afaik12:04
bluerise:/12:04
mntmnbut funfact, i also haven't gotten any mipi pixels to display yet using the kintex board12:04
mntmnbluerise: you had colorbars, right?12:05
blueriseyes12:05
mntmnso probably means dcss->mipi is not working right12:05
mntmnin your case12:05
mntmnand in my case it's rgb(dpi)->mipi (with a toshiba chip)12:05
pkill9Boostisbetter: i'm not sure, i watched a video on youtube that said the Reform would require a separate circuit/PCB to monitor the batteries, that the firmware update just reduces the amount of electricity used passively so they last longer, but doesn't actually remove the probolem, just improves it12:06
pkill9how much might the pocket reform cost?12:09
mntmnthat is not yet known (price)12:10
joschmntmn: do you think I should try adding more solder to the pins of S1 on the top side of the mainboard or are the pads on the top not connected?12:26
mntmnhmm12:30
mntmnsorry, my desktop pc just crashed (weird)12:31
mntmnjosch: the pads are actually connected on an inner layer, but the via is of course connected to the bottom and top layers12:33
joschsince S1 is not working, maybe the solder is then not connected to that inner layer and heating it up and adding some more solder might help?12:36
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mntmnjosch: yep, try that, and use flux ^^ and probably needs high temp @ the gnd pad12:47
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ruffbtw this morning my laptop had 44% after nightly suspend, not sure if it was because of new kernel or I just fell asleep too early14:00
ruffright after suspend battery status was showing same ~100mA, maybe it went lower a bit later, not sure, forgot to check in the morning the current drain14:03
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sigridruff: thanks again for 5.15.13 rebase. it worked once I used the same old device tree. otherwise works fine15:26
sigridI'm putting it all together using xbps with the idea of having a ready to use void linux image in the end15:27
joschmntmn: sadly, that didn't do the trick :/15:37
mntmnneat @ 5.1515:37
mntmnjosch: damn. then i wonder if we can move you to S2 somehow. you could send your board but we don't have imx8m replacement modules atm15:38
joschmntmn: you think it's not the mainboard but the imx8m module?15:39
mntmnjosch: could be either. only a scope can tell15:39
joschright15:40
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joschcurrently my patch to let u-boot use S2 instead of S1 looks like this http://paste.debian.net/1226416/ but that isn't booting -- does anybody have an idea what is missing?16:33
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mntmnmaybe the uart2 base addr is incorrect in uboot17:33
mntmnor hardcoded somewhere else17:33
ruffs1 is switch 1 (since you are speaking about soldering)? i.e. not sleep1. Sorry I probably missed the issue description17:38
ruffor from patch actually looks like serial117:40
joschruff: the S1/J18 connector of my reform is non-functional but the S2 connector next to it works fine. Since I was unsuccessful in fixing the problem by applying additional solder to S1, I'm looking for a software fix which lets u-boot output to S2 (UART2) instead of to S1.17:40
ruffok, thx, j18 ser1. Do you have logic analyzer/osciloscope? to check actual signal from som17:42
joschnope :(17:43
ruffAnd other than ser1 the board works ok, just cannot access early boot console?17:44
joschyes, I haven't found any other problem than that17:45
mntmnbut s2 works in linux, just not in uboot17:45
joschyes, when I set console=ttymxc1,115200, then I can see the kernel output to S2 just fine17:46
mntmnso technically it must be possible in uboot, we just need to find out why it doesn't17:47
mntmnbluerise: ideas?17:48
mntmnheh17:51
mntmn#define UART1_BASE_ADDR0x3086000017:51
mntmn#define UART3_BASE_ADDR0x3088000017:51
mntmn#define UART2_BASE_ADDR0x3089000017:51
mntmnis this consistent with linux?17:52
mntmnyep it is17:53
mntmnuart2: serial@30890000 {17:53
sigridit is consistent with the ref manual17:56
bluerisemaybe try my u-boot image?17:56
ruffehm... why patch, isn't it configurable via menuconf?17:58
mntmnruff: but the pinctrl pads are not set up based on config, for example17:59
Boostisbettermntmn, so regarding updating (sudo apt full-upgrade), do you know when we might be able to do that? I'm not in a burning rush to update anything, because my system is running super duper at the moment. 17:59
mntmn(which is a bug)17:59
bluerisejosch: Grab a new SD card (so that you don't replace the 'good one' with my crap), and run ...18:00
bluerisejosch: $ sudo dd if=flash.bin of=/dev/sd[x] bs=1024 seek=33 conv=notrunc18:00
bluerisejosch: http://blueri.se/flash.bin18:00
mntmnbluerise: and that one is configured for UART2?18:02
joschbluerise: I do get some output but it looks like random garbage: ������� ���0����0�p�F��D �"����#���0�����0� �`�����`�����# ��0��#��0�� �`���18:06
ruffok i thought you can do it via dtb but I found already it only init 1 uart on boot18:06
bluerisemntmn: that's configured for the 'normal' UART, whichever that is18:08
blueriseI'm using the same pins josch used when he first posted pictures if the cabling is correct18:09
blueriseset to baudrate 11520018:09
joschbluerise: those pins are S1 which is not working on my reform so i'm trying to make u-boot work with S2 instead18:09
joschbluerise: so far I have this patch http://paste.debian.net/1226416/ but that doesn't boot anything18:10
mntmnjosch: if you get random garbage it mostly if GND is not connected correctly18:11
mntmnjosch: do you have a multimeter? can you beep the GND pin on S1 to another GND pad on the board, or a screw on the heatsink?18:12
joschyeah, indeed I made a mistake but I tried again now and I get no output at all18:12
mntmnok18:12
- nsc (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~nicolas@i5C744BCB.versanet.de)18:15
bluerisehave you tried a different serial adapter?18:16
blueriseoh wait you tried with uart2 on Linux iirc, that works18:16
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mntmnjosch: it's possible you have to add a line like this to .config as well: CONFIG_MXC_UART_BASE="UART2_BASE_ADDR"18:24
joschmntmn: according to my multimeter, GND of S1 is connected to GND of S218:45
joschmntmn: I tried adding that line to the u-boot config (patch looks like this now: http://paste.debian.net/1226662/) but still not booting at all18:47
dj-deathanybody having this problem with xwayland not able to find gdm_bo_get_fd_for_plane() symbol?19:01
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dj-deathnot gdm, gbm ;)19:09
mntmndj-death: probably incompatible libdrm/libgbm? (both built from drm)19:11
joschmntmn: the change that prevents booting is the one-line change in include/configs/nitrogen8m_som.h -- with the original value of UART1_BASE_ADDR it boots fine (but of course doesn't output anything to S2).19:11
mntmndj-death: do you mix debian Xwayland with /usr/local/lib/libdrm / gbm?19:12
joschmntmn: what clue does it give you that GND seems to be connected?19:12
mntmnjosch: just i had dead uart1 on one of my boards and it was bad/missing solder on gnd19:12
mntmnjosch: but probably different issue for you then19:12
josch:( This is frustrating... There are probably many out there who never need their serial line to work but it had to hit me... :/19:19
mntmnreally sorry... if you want to send the laptop to me, i can take a look, but it will take several days19:20
mntmni still believe there is a software solution for uboot19:21
mntmnbtw can you tell me why you need serial in uboot?19:21
mntmnmaybe there's another way to achieve what you need?19:21
mntmni think uboot can also do network console if i'm not totally mistaken19:21
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joschmntmn: I built the kernel as a Debian package. My idea was to ship the kernel packaged, so that one can upgrade it via 'apt-get upgrade'. But what I built doesn't boot, so I wanted to investigate.19:28
joschFurthermore, I patched flash-kernel for the reform. flash-kernel is a Debian-specific package that handles kernel upgrades with u-boot. There is existing support for the librem 5, so I thought I could do the same for the reform.19:30
mntmnjosch: there is another thing you can try: HDMI19:31
mntmnjosch: maybe uart input to S1 works and you can see output on HDMI (but you have to enable the graphics console in uboot for that. i'm trying to remember how)19:32
mntmnjosch: if you have a hdmi monitor plugged in before powering on, you should see DENX logo by default from uboot19:33
joschthanks! I'll try that in a bit -- dinner now19:33
mntmnaccording to rgrep on the irc logs, looks like i tried that on 2021-06-2119:34
mntmnlol https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2021-06-21.log.html#t19:19:2919:35
mntmnjosch: oh i have here an uboot binary that will give you a uboot console on HDMI https://mntre.com/reform-irc-logs/2021-06-21.log.html#t19:35:1419:35
dj-deathmntmn: oh... I didn't know there was 2 Xwayland19:38
dj-deathmntmn: I don't remember the story behind that :)19:41
technomancyI found a fix for the cage bug! WLR_NO_HARDWARE_CURSORS=1 according to someone in #wayland19:42
mntmndj-death: we ship a custom build of xwayland in /usr/local/bin19:42
mntmntechnomancy: woop! so then cage works?19:42
technomancyyeah, that did the trick!19:42
mntmndj-death: with a patch that fixes missing GUI elements/flickering on GTK2 stuff19:42
mntmntechnomancy: awesome!19:42
technomancyalthough I don't expect it to be particularly stable going forward; the next time debian pushes a new wlroots version it's likely to break again19:43
mntmnyou can perhaps pin the wlroots version that works for you 19:47
technomancyhm; yeah that's probably smart19:50
dj-deathmntmn: I'm a bit puzzled than even using the default binaries, I still have a missing symbol20:02
sigridcaam-revert-swiotlb-origaddr.patch ← looks like this got into 5.1620:10
mntmndj-death: maybe that's the problem? did you try ldconfig /usr/local/lib?20:18
mntmndj-death: what's ldd Xwayland | grep gbm?20:18
mntmnsigrid: nice20:18
mntmnsigrid: that was a real bummer20:19
mntmnhours of bisecting20:19
dj-deathmntmn: thanks, yeah weird /usr/bin/Xwayland depends on /usr/local/lib/.../libgbm1.so20:50
mntmndj-death: do you have /root/src/drm?20:53
dj-deathyep20:55
mntmndj-death: btw i think it might be that you're using debian wlroots?20:55
dj-deathmntmn: gnome-shell actually20:55
mntmnoh20:55
mntmnit might be the compositor, not Xwayland, that uses that symbol20:55
mntmndj-death: you could try sth like mkdir /tmp/drm; mv /usr/local/lib/libdrm* /usr/local/libgbm* /tmp/drm/; sudo ldconfig20:56
mntmnbut YMMV it might not work with dual display20:57
mntmndj-death: i suspect the compositor (gnome-shell/mutter) depends on a newer libdrm/libgbm, which debian installed but is shadowed by /usr/local/lib/ versions20:57
dj-deathoh what20:58
dj-deathI never noticed there was 2 /dev/dri/card20:58
mntmndj-death: yep20:58
mntmnsorry, my command above missed a lib/ in the mv20:58
mntmn(before libgbm)20:58
mntmndj-death: those two "cards" are the two display engines, dcss and lcdif, if you're on dual display mode20:59
dj-deathyep20:59
dj-deathI did exactly what you suggested20:59
mntmnand what happened?20:59
dj-deathnow it's just gnome-shell failing to setup a renderer on /dev/dri/card1 20:59
mntmnok, you could try mv /dev/dri/card1 /tmp/21:00
mntmnbut probably the problem is missing drm module/driver name in debian's libdrm21:00
mntmnfor one of the engines21:00
mntmnit's really silly because they're all aliases for kmsro...21:00
mntmndj-death: you could try to move over to debian's stuff completely, if you dare21:01
mntmndj-death: script: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/issues/15#note_160121:02
mntmn(you could tar /usr/local/lib beforehand to have a backup)21:02
dj-deathJan 10 21:56:58 reform gnome-shell[1974]: Failed to open gpu '/dev/dri/card0': No suitable mode setting backend found21:02
dj-deathJan 10 21:56:58 reform gnome-shell[1974]: Integrated GPU /dev/dri/card1 selected as primary21:02
dj-deathJan 10 21:56:58 reform org.gnome.Shell.desktop[1974]: Failed to setup: The GPU /dev/dri/card1 chosen as primary is not supported by EGL.21:02
dj-deathI think that's the problem :)21:03
mntmndj-death: ah, this was a dumb suggestion by me then (about card1)21:03
dj-deathyou're not far though :)21:03
mntmnwait, shouldn't there be 3 cards... one for etnaviv21:03
dj-deathI only see 2 on my system21:03
mntmnsingle or dual display mode?21:03
dj-deathcard0, card1, renderD12821:04
dj-deathsingle 21:04
dj-deathinternal display21:04
mntmnah yeah so then these are dcss and etnaviv21:04
mntmnin case your libdrm supports mxsfb/lcdif, you could try sudo reform-display-config and reboot21:04
mntmnthen you have lcdif instead of dcss on the internal display21:04
mntmnsorry, sudo reform-display-config single21:05
dj-deaththanks a bunch21:05
dj-deathI'm really not familiar with the ARM SOC ecosystem21:05
dj-deathstill the same problem21:06
dj-deathodd...21:06
dj-deathmaybe it's the modifier thing21:12
mntmnah yeah there was a magic env var21:14
mntmnbut i think i got a different error msg for that/21:14
dj-deathACTION will continue tomorrow21:32
Boostisbetterare any of you aware of a http based irc server? I just got the internet work on a 8088 machine, and I'd love to send something on IRC using it, I just can't use anything with encryption on 21:36
technomancyyou don't need encryption to connect directly to libera21:38
technomancyif anything IRC is easier than HTTP to avoid TLS with21:38
Boostisbetterdo you know the address I would use?21:38
technomancyoh, do you not have any DNS either?21:39
Boostisbetteris it really just irc.libera.org21:39
technomancyit is21:39
technomancyyou can literally just netcat it21:39
Boostisbettersorry libera.chat21:39
joschmntmn: you won't believe it21:40
technomancyhttps://git.sr.ht/~technomancy/fennel/tree/main/test/irc.lua for example21:40
joschmntmn: my S1 is not completely broken -- the RX pin works. I can type via serial and see the output on my hdmi display21:40
mntmnjosch: amazing, that's what i hoped21:40
mntmnjosch: also, better than the other way aroud21:40
mntmnaround21:40
vagrantcwrite-only interfaces21:41
joschmntmn: how do i compile my own u-boot with hdmi support?21:41
mntmnjosch: i don't remember all the details, sorry... i mean HDMI support is enabled, check the other stuff i wrote on that day in the IRC log. i think basically you only have to set stdout to vga21:42
mntmnjosch: setenv stdout vga21:42
mntmnjosch: compile that in somehow21:43
mntmnor, setenv stdout serial,vga21:43
mntmnactually we could make that a default if it works21:43
joschthanks, i'll investigate :)21:43
vagrantcACTION was just about to test the mainline patches submitted for u-boot on top of v2022.0121:50
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joschmntmn: that worked! I now know why it didn't boot and will continue working on https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/30 tomorrow22:47
joschmntmn: thanks a lot for all your help! You are awesome. :)22:47
mntmnthanks, i'm happy you can continue :)22:48
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mjwmntmn, btw the order at crowdsupply has been updated and split into 7 parts :) sleeve, handbook, ssd, power-cord, antenna, reform and wifi-card.23:05
mntmnperfect23:06
mjw7 is a nice number indeed :)23:07
mjwAt least now it feels like I am getting a lot more. grin.23:07
mntmnhehe23:08

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