| ex-parrot | ACTION fills out import paperwork for Reform | 00:24 |
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| + freakazoid333 (~freakazoi@72.168.176.37) | 04:04 | |
| Asmadeus | mntmn: btw linux master also breaks ethernet for me, need to look into it... | 04:05 |
| + odnes (~odnes@109-178-154-27.pat.ren.cosmote.net) | 04:57 | |
| - odnes (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~odnes@109-178-154-27.pat.ren.cosmote.net) | 05:06 | |
| + Neelfyn_ (uid180106@stonehaven.irccloud.com) | 06:02 | |
| + jackhill_ (~jackhill@kalessin.dragonsnail.net) | 06:09 | |
| - jackhill (QUIT: *.net *.split) (~jackhill@kalessin.dragonsnail.net) | 06:09 | |
| - Neelfyn (QUIT: *.net *.split) (uid180106@id-180106.stonehaven.irccloud.com) | 06:09 | |
| * Neelfyn_ -> Neelfyn | 06:09 | |
| marex | Asmadeus: next 20210618 on mx8mq picopi works , including ethernet , maybe that piece of information is useful | 06:25 |
| Asmadeus | marex: oh, thanks. It could also very well be my driver (different phy) or something specific to imx8mp (not on reform yet), but it's good news! | 06:42 |
| ex-parrot | seems like the New Zealand import paperwork has got a lot simpler since Novena happened | 07:07 |
| ex-parrot | I now have an Importer Code :P | 07:08 |
| Asmadeus | you might actually get it before me :) It's planned for the end of the week here | 07:14 |
| ex-parrot | hmm last shipping update was the machine leaving Germany so probably similar timing I think | 08:26 |
| ex-parrot | plus I haven't paid my import tax yet :P but I'll hopefully do that tomorrow | 08:27 |
| mntmn | ex-parrot: ohh i hope everything goes smoothly! | 11:05 |
| + mjw (~mjw_@2001:1c06:2487:f800:9e5c:8eff:fe8f:a440) | 11:25 | |
| ex-parrot | mntmn: so far it is exceeding expectations. From “please call us” SMS to being registered with Customs as an Importer was about 3 hours | 11:38 |
| mntmn | ex-parrot: very nice | 11:38 |
| ex-parrot | Which I thought I’d done already for the Novena but Customs had no record of it | 11:39 |
| ex-parrot | They said there are nine other people with my surname registered as importers :P | 11:39 |
| ex-parrot | One of which is my brother | 11:39 |
| ex-parrot | So tomorrow I’ll pay tax and hopefully the machine arrives maybe Friday | 11:40 |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~erle@dynamic-046-114-035-105.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 12:15 | |
| + erlehmann (~erle@dynamic-046-114-032-076.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 12:29 | |
| marex | Asmadeus: 8mp dwmac or fec ? | 12:49 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 268 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 12:54 | |
| mntmn | ex-parrot: how mach duty is it? how's the VAT in NZ? | 12:54 |
| Asmadeus | marex: really didn't look into it yet, one is gone (I think dwmac, not listed in interface list) and the other is present and pretends to be up but says it can't find the phy when trying to manipulate it. Hasn't really been a priority but I'll try to look at it later this week, don't mind me :) | 13:33 |
| marex | Asmadeus: there is some phytec board upstream which should have both interfaces working, so you can inspire yourself there | 13:44 |
| bluerise | Issue for MP I think is that it only has one PCIe port :/ | 13:54 |
| bluerise | unless you add some PCIe bridge to the SoM heh | 13:54 |
| marex | bluerise: I just wish there was one of the mx8m that would really be the ultimate model | 13:55 |
| bluerise | Well, question is what is "ultimate". | 13:55 |
| marex | so far there are 4 (not counting the ulp) and every one is limited in one way or the other | 13:55 |
| bluerise | The LX2160A is nice, but too hot | 13:55 |
| bluerise | and no graphics | 13:55 |
| bluerise | Yup, ack | 13:55 |
| bluerise | I'd still get the plus though | 13:56 |
| bluerise | I met with NXP and they were like 'oh, well, the MQ,... you should switch to Mini or Plus" | 13:56 |
| mntmn | bluerise: there's a smaller LX2162A | 13:57 |
| mntmn | bluerise: yes NXP told me the same, but it's nonsense. i'd rather wait for mx9 | 13:57 |
| marex | btw the 8mn and mp bootrom was designed by another team than 8mq/mm, so they e.g. removed PERSIST_SECONDARY_BOOT option, which allowed testing bootloader updates (you write bootloader B-copy, set the bit, enable WDT, reboot and see if it works) | 13:57 |
| marex | if it doesn't , WDT switches you back to A-copy | 13:57 |
| mntmn | the mx8mq finally works well | 13:57 |
| mntmn | they should just shrink it to 14nm lol | 13:57 |
| mntmn | or less | 13:57 |
| marex | with mn/mp, they left only eMMC boot partitions, which are non-volatile, so you switch and if B-copy doesnt work, ... too bad | 13:57 |
| bluerise | Ah, one thing they also said: Mini/Plus are much better, because it's using some Samsung iirc transistor technology usually used for phones, and the MQ isn't | 13:58 |
| marex | mntmn: yes ... 8mq overheats :( | 13:58 |
| bluerise | so the 'the hotter, the more voltage' curve is a lot better on MM/MP | 13:58 |
| marex | yes, the mm/mn/mp emit much less heat | 13:58 |
| mntmn | marex: just use a big chunk of aluminum or copper ;) | 14:00 |
| bluerise | marex: our product uses MQ and has like 100 layers of thermal pads | 14:00 |
| mntmn | ok, maybe mp could be an option for saving more power while giving up some IO | 14:00 |
| marex | I had to add blower fan, but that wasnt on reform of course | 14:00 |
| mntmn | LS1028A also doesn't get super hot | 14:00 |
| mntmn | surprisingly | 14:01 |
| bluerise | mntmn: maybe a PCIe switch if that's not too expensive? | 14:01 |
| mntmn | bluerise: medium expensive | 14:01 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 14:04 | |
| mntmn | bluerise: but developing a SOM takes quite a lot of effort. i'm experiencing this now with the kintex-7 module. | 14:04 |
| mntmn | (it is probably more complex than a mp module though, because it has more support chips) | 14:05 |
| mntmn | but the memory is tricky | 14:05 |
| bluerise | yeah... NXP also said "you really shouldn't design the memory layout yourself, just use the reference design or a SoM" | 14:07 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 14:12 | |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 14:48 | |
| - Neelfyn (QUIT: Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) (uid180106@stonehaven.irccloud.com) | 14:51 | |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 14:52 | |
| mntmn | bluerise: mhm | 15:32 |
| + Neelfyn (uid180106@id-180106.stonehaven.irccloud.com) | 15:45 | |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 15:46 | |
| * jackhill_ -> jackhill | 16:18 | |
| scops | mntmn: i just switched back to sd card boot .... but still the same :( nothing on screen... the uart/usb cable is shipping ... but stil takes time... any ideas? looking bad if sd card boot doesnt work, right? :( | 17:33 |
| mntmn | scops: yeah. when will you get the UART cable? | 17:35 |
| scops | dont know... this week i hope | 17:36 |
| mntmn | scops: they don't have tracking? where did you order? | 17:38 |
| scops | the shop u suggested | 17:38 |
| mntmn | ok, last time they were super fast | 17:39 |
| mntmn | scops: hell, actually you _can_ do more with the sd card | 17:41 |
| mntmn | scops: do you have a HDMI monitor? | 17:41 |
| scops | yes | 17:42 |
| mntmn | scops: copy the dual display dtb over the imx8mq-mnt-reform2.dtb on the sd card, connect hdmi and boot with that | 17:42 |
| mntmn | scops: also if you flash the new uboot it can already show something on hdmi | 17:42 |
| scops | i could just flash the new image with dd to the sd right? | 17:43 |
| mntmn | scops: yes | 17:43 |
| mntmn | scops: but still you have to copy the dtb | 17:43 |
| scops | yes | 17:43 |
| mntmn | scops: because default is single display | 17:43 |
| mntmn | i think it should be possible to modify the u-boot so that it would not directly boot but instead bring up usb and use it as keyboard and hdmi as output | 17:44 |
| scops | check... i will try that later :) thanks | 17:44 |
| mntmn | i'm building an u-boot now that could help with this | 17:48 |
| mntmn | hmm the hdmi framebuffer doesn't want to work as a "vga" output for setenv stdout | 18:08 |
| mntmn | usb keyboard is not detected, but trackball is, strangely | 18:20 |
| mntmn | (by u-boot) | 18:20 |
| mntmn | ok, too stressful for me to figure this out right now... but you should at least get the denx logo for 1 second on HDMI on startup scops | 18:23 |
| * mrusme -> mrus | 18:35 | |
| mntmn | marex: any hints on how to debug "setenv vga" in u-boot? without *ahem* driver model... it's using "fbpanel", looks imx specific | 18:39 |
| mntmn | marex: i get the denx splash and a line of text but nothing further... i can switch back and forth between serial and vga but vga never prints anything to that framebuffer | 18:40 |
| mntmn | i get the "U-Boot" version + date line on hdmi too | 18:40 |
| marex | mntmn: er ... you can set stdout to multiple values | 18:41 |
| marex | run coninfo , that should give you the options | 18:41 |
| marex | setenv stdout serial,vga should work I think | 18:41 |
| mntmn | marex: yeah, did that. i get output on serial but never on vga | 18:42 |
| mntmn | => coninfo | 18:44 |
| mntmn | List of available devices: | 18:44 |
| mntmn | vga 00000002 .O stdout stderr | 18:44 |
| mntmn | serial 00000003 IO stdin | 18:44 |
| mntmn | nulldev 00000003 IO | 18:44 |
| mntmn | mxc_serial 00000003 IO | 18:44 |
| marex | mntmn: maybe vga init is not working ? | 18:49 |
| marex | mntmn: i dont think u-boot supports video output on mx8mq | 18:50 |
| mntmn | marex: hmm, but it shows the denx logo and the u-boot version line | 18:56 |
| mntmn | marex: (it is vendor u-boot i have to say, sorry for that) | 18:56 |
| marex | hum | 18:58 |
| marex | mntmn: you do have CFB_CONSOLE compiled in ? | 18:59 |
| marex | mntmn: look into drivers/video/Kconfig, there might be some hint there | 19:00 |
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| mntmn | marex: ok, lets see | 19:03 |
| - S0rin (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 19:17 | |
| mntmn | oh it's working | 19:19 |
| mntmn | the problem was that my HDMI capture device froze >:| | 19:22 |
| mntmn | marex: sorry for that. now i only have the problem that any usb keyboards are ignored :D | 19:27 |
| mntmn | ah, my fault again | 19:28 |
| marex | mntmn: a lot of that is likely already fixed in upstream, there were quite a few patches in that area | 19:28 |
| mntmn | ok | 19:33 |
| mntmn | scops: http://dump.mntmn.com/flash.bin.hdmidebug | 19:35 |
| mntmn | scops: if you flash this to the sdcard, you will get some output on HDMI and a prompt. if you don't get that, maybe your SOM/SOC is broken. | 19:35 |
| XgF | Hmm, seems some beach sand got in my trackball and now its really wonky, guess I'll have to clean it :( | 19:35 |
| mntmn | XgF: fortunately it's very easy to clean | 19:36 |
| mntmn | XgF: (see the handbook) | 19:36 |
| mntmn | scops: sudo dd if=flash.bin.hdmidebug of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 seek=33 | 19:36 |
| XgF | mntmn: and maybe i should swap it out for the trackpad if its going near the vicinity of a beach in future :p | 19:37 |
| mntmn | XgF: hehe | 19:41 |
| mntmn | bluerise: didn't you have an updated u-boot somewhere? | 19:41 |
| bluerise | yup | 19:42 |
| bluerise | but it wasn't cleaned up I think | 19:42 |
| mntmn | bluerise: doesn't matter | 19:42 |
| bluerise | will push what I have, 1s | 19:44 |
| bluerise | https://github.com/bluerise/u-boot/tree/boundary-v2020.10-reform | 19:44 |
| bluerise | ah, let me squash something | 19:45 |
| + S0rin (~S0rin@user/s0rin) | 19:46 | |
| bluerise | ok, re-pushed, that's better | 19:49 |
| XgF | mntmn: oh that was easy | 19:49 |
| bluerise | so, the big 'reform' commit replaces the nitrogen's dtb with the reform's. yeah, that's a hack | 19:49 |
| XgF | and appears to have been a complete success | 19:49 |
| mntmn | XgF: cool | 19:49 |
| scops | <mntmn "scops: sudo dd if=flash.bin.hdmi"> Thanks a lot :) i will try it tomorrow! :) | 20:01 |
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