| josch | In case this is a hardware problem, which bootargs parameter would I have to switch in u-boot to use S2 instead of S1? Maybe console=ttymxc1,115200 instead of console=ttymxc0,115200? | 00:00 |
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| mntmn | josch: yep | 00:39 |
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| technomancy | sigrid: wait did you say you were at 3.1V after six hours? I'm down to 3.2V here after 20m. | 00:53 |
| vagrantc | lifepo4 maintain a very stable voltage throughout the discharge cycle... | 01:02 |
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| technomancy | yeah, I figured the percentage reading was inherently unreliable to some degree ... but going down 0.2V in 20 minutes for me and going down 0.1V in six hours for them makes me think something's wrong with mine | 01:06 |
| vagrantc | 0.1V? | 01:06 |
| technomancy | err, 0.3V, rather | 01:07 |
| technomancy | 0.1V difference between theirs and mine based on running theirs 18x longer runtime | 01:08 |
| vagrantc | voltage is not a very strong indicator of state-of-charge | 01:11 |
| technomancy | right; I'm just saying I was expecting like ... a factor of at most ten, not 18 | 01:12 |
| vagrantc | also depends on how the meter reads it e.g. best to pretend the last 15-20% doesn't exist, as by dipping into that power you will dramatically reduce the lifespane of the battery | 01:12 |
| vagrantc | so it would be reasonable for a battery guage to treat ~20% as ~0% | 01:13 |
| sigrid | technomancy: yeah. 3.1V after 6h | 01:22 |
| technomancy | I guess I should just time mine and see | 01:24 |
| vkoskiv_ | What kind of battery life are you all seeing under normal use? | 01:31 |
| technomancy | I've never tried going past 3h. I had mine die last week idling during a 2h power outage but I think that might have been a fluke? | 01:32 |
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| mntmn | vkoskiv_: some people here have reported 5-6h battery life, which i find quite long | 03:12 |
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| josch | mntmn: that worked -- i see linux booting now | 06:50 |
| josch | and I can successfully login using S2 | 06:52 |
| josch | how do I have to change u-boot so that it also prints on S2 instead of on S1? | 06:57 |
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| mntmn | heh https://github.com/ptitSeb/box86/commit/135e8d98e911a29b786cd4cbebd569341fbaf0c2 | 14:39 |
| sigrid | nice | 14:41 |
| bluerise | ugh :D | 14:45 |
| bluerise | I'm surprised the compiler didn't warn | 14:49 |
| sigrid | guess it would if it wouldn't be wrapped n () | 14:53 |
| sigrid | _why_ is it wrapped is another question | 14:53 |
| bluerise | to appease the compiler? ;) | 14:57 |
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| mntmn | LD | 15:08 |
| mntmn | :D i mean | 15:08 |
| mntmn | i have a debian-armhf chroot and trying to build box86 inside of it | 15:08 |
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| Boostisbetter | yeah it was kind of a pain | 15:11 |
| mntmn | Boostisbetter: ah you already tried? | 15:12 |
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| Boostisbetter | Yeah. It seemed to work. The steam package updater started running. It did its thing but then when it calls the steam client process, fails. | 15:17 |
| Boostisbetter | I know box64 works because I've been using a vnc client through it for a while. | 15:18 |
| Boostisbetter | Box86 has to be working as well or the updater wouldn't have run either | 15:19 |
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| mntmn | Boostisbetter: maybe it failed because of the bug that was recently fixed? (see the link above) | 15:30 |
| josch | mntmn: since my S1 connector seems to be dead, do you happen to know how to let u-boot output on S2 (or know somebody who knows)? | 15:31 |
| mntmn | josch: i haven't tried it, so here some theory: | 15:38 |
| mntmn | 1. i think UART2 pads have to be added here https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/blob/master/board/boundary/nitrogen8m_som/nitrogen8m_som.c#L39 | 15:38 |
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| Boostisbetter | Mntmn, yeah I'll need to recompile it and see if that makes a difference. | 16:20 |
| bluerise | sent my fourth Reform2 U-Boot patchset to U-Boot | 16:23 |
| bluerise | I hope this time one of the U-Boot maintainers chimes in... or just accepts it | 16:23 |
| bluerise | if it continues like this, it might be easier to get a rockchip-based reform2 patchset in lol | 16:24 |
| mntmn | josch: 2. set this to UART2 https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/blob/master/include/configs/nitrogen8m_som.h#L114 | 16:26 |
| mntmn | bluerise: :| thanks for your work though | 16:27 |
| mntmn | josch: those two changes should do it i think | 16:27 |
| mntmn | josch: the additional pads should look like: IMX8MQ_PAD_UART2_RXD__UART2_RX | MUX_PAD_CTRL(UART_PAD_CTRL), | 16:28 |
| mntmn | IMX8MQ_PAD_UART2_TXD__UART2_TX | MUX_PAD_CTRL(UART_PAD_CTRL), | 16:28 |
| mntmn | Boostisbetter: for me, steam doesn't work because of Error initializing native libappindicator.so.1 (last dlerror is (null)) | 16:35 |
| Boostisbetter | |exact same error I got. | 16:44 |
| Boostisbetter | and I assume you are using the most current build of box86 right? | 16:44 |
| mntmn | yes | 16:45 |
| mntmn | did you install libappindicator.so.1 somehow? i did, but not sure if it's working | 16:45 |
| Boostisbetter | no, I wasn't sure how to pull it in | 16:45 |
| Boostisbetter | so you updated it, and then tried again, and got the same error anyway? | 16:45 |
| Boostisbetter | SO CLOSE!!! | 16:46 |
| mntmn | yeah, this is not the error that is fixed by that commit | 16:46 |
| Boostisbetter | ok, thanks for your efforts | 16:47 |
| Boostisbetter | I'm content knowing that eventually it will work | 16:47 |
| Boostisbetter | I would really like to get Nuclear Throne or Faster Than Light working | 16:47 |
| Boostisbetter | Steam just makes that so easy on x86 Linux. | 16:47 |
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| mntmn | Boostisbetter: no idea why libappindicator1.so doesn't initialize. i even wrote a tiny c program to see if i can open it with dlopen(), and that works | 17:10 |
| mntmn | giving up for now | 17:10 |
| sigrid | have you tried preloading it instead? | 17:20 |
| sigrid | BOX64_LD_PRELOAD=fullpathtothe.so iirc | 17:21 |
| josch | mntmn: http://paste.debian.net/1226416/ this is what I changed in u-boot but it doesn't boot with that at all | 17:21 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn, thanks for trying! Let's hope to revisit this sometime in the future. | 17:22 |
| + OpenBDSM (~FreeBDSM@user/freebdsm) | 17:40 | |
| OpenBDSM | hi. Just learned about MNT Reform, are they still being sold? | 17:42 |
| Boostisbetter | you bet they are. | 17:45 |
| Boostisbetter | I just got one less than a month ago. | 17:45 |
| Boostisbetter | Where are you from? | 17:45 |
| Boostisbetter | If you are in europe it is better to order from the MNT site directly, otherwise ordering through crowd supply is the way to go. | 17:45 |
| Boostisbetter | https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2020-05-08-the-much-more-personal-computer.html | 17:46 |
| Boostisbetter | mntmn, btw did I ever tell you that one of the things that really got me interested in the Reform was a picture you shared on twitter with the reform hooked up to an audio bridge and a steinberger guitar. | 17:47 |
| Boostisbetter | Was a cool picture. | 17:47 |
| OpenBDSM | Boostisbetter, is Russia considered Europe? | 17:53 |
| Boostisbetter | in this context, I would say yep! | 17:53 |
| Boostisbetter | but Russian customs would be something to consider. | 17:53 |
| Boostisbetter | as I don't believe there is anything official worked out with them on behalf of MNT. I am, of course, merely speculating. I have no idea if that is true. | 17:54 |
| OpenBDSM | `RAM: 4 GB LPDDR4 memory` - why aren't there options with bigger RAM size? | 17:54 |
| OpenBDSM | `CPU and RAM are on an exchangeable SO-DIMM sized module.` does it mean that there's just 1 SO-DIMM slot? | 17:55 |
| OpenBDSM | I don't see MotherBoard being specified in the detailed specs, but I see that CPU is ARM, does it mean that it's a SoC and thus CPU=MotherBoard+CPU? | 17:57 |
| Boostisbetter | the system is based on a SoC, the IMX8. It caps out at 4gb. If you have heard of the Librem 5, it is the same SoC. | 17:58 |
| Boostisbetter | However, the mainboard is designed to have a slotted SoC board. So yes it is upgradable in that you can update the whole Soc with a new board. | 17:58 |
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| OpenBDSM | got it, thanks | 18:12 |
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