2021-12-19.log

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mntmnboosterfive: no, but i use Reform exclusively as my laptop, and as my computer at home (except for my, ahem, PS4)00:07
mntmnboosterfive: at the office i use a linux PC with intel i9-990000:07
mntmnsigrid: did you hold the circle key for at least 1 second?00:08
sigridyep00:08
mntmnsigrid: the batteries are normally not necessary 00:08
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mntmnsigrid: but sounds like the keyboard controller didn't wake up again... normally after holding circle for a while the menu should show00:09
mntmni've heard this from 1 person here before, but so far rare00:10
sigridafter disconnecting the batteries and waiting it works fine, let's see if it ever happens again00:10
sigridgonna try a few more shutdowns/powerups00:10
mntmnok thanks00:11
cphealyI'm just starting to experiment with the Reform laptop I received.  The kernel in the image that came on the device is 5.12.  Is there a place to download a newer OS image with possibly a newer kernel?00:12
mntmncphealy: not yet. started working on an update that also switches to debian bookworm/sid libdrm/mesa/sway instead of custom builds00:13
cphealyOK, good, I thought I was missing something  ;-)00:13
mntmncphealy: also you might have seen there are very recent patches by lucas on the arm list00:13
cphealyHmm, which ones?00:14
mntmncphealy: concerning some i2c and ethernet fixes, and internal display with mainline00:14
cphealyAhh, cool!  I've not seen that.00:14
cphealyI have been tracking Hantro G1/G2 development and it appears to be in much better shape with 5.16.  5.17 will add VP9 (on top of the existing support for H.264/VP8 in the G1.)00:15
mntmnhttp://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2021-December/705543.html00:15
mntmnhttp://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2021-December/705542.html00:15
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cphealyNice!00:16
cphealyEven with the 5.12 based kernel image, one thing I cannot figure out is how to get the "perf" utility loaded.  With the i.MX8M in the Reform laptop, there is a kernel driver exposing the perf PMU events for DRAM bandwidth.  The "perf" utility would allow looking at this data from userspace.00:17
mntmninteresting, i didn't know about that. seems like it has to fit to the kernel version?00:18
cphealyI believe so.  At least on my desktop distros, when I install "perf" using apt-get it has to be a version matched to the kernel.00:19
cphealyThis is the relevant kernel driver for the i.MX8M:  https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/perf/fsl_imx8_ddr_perf.c00:19
dj-deathyeah the kernel tracepoint format have to match between kernel/userspace so userspace can decode the traces00:20
cphealyWith the i.MX8M it gives access to the following kind of data:00:21
cphealyroot@mx8m:~ perf stat -a -e imx8_ddr0/cycles/,imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/,imx8_ddr0/wr00:21
cphealyite-cycles/ -I 100 sleep 100:21
cphealy#           time             counts unit events00:21
cphealy     0.100275004           80211300      imx8_ddr0/cycles/                                           00:21
cphealy     0.100275004           12556342      imx8_ddr0/read-cycles/                                      00:21
cphealy     0.100275004              32476      imx8_ddr0/write-cycles/   00:21
mntmnok, another thing for the list!00:22
cphealy;-)00:22
cphealyNot sure if it's possible, but perhaps a 50Hz mode would be useful with the display to reduce power consumption when 60Hz operation is not needed?00:23
mntmncphealy: display is already underclocked00:23
mntmnespecially in dual display mode, i think it runs at 42hz00:24
cphealyOh, OK00:24
mntmnyeah, in dual display mode it's ~42hz00:24
mntmni think normally ~60hz, you're probably right00:24
mntmn(in single display mode)00:25
cphealyHopefully, this Mesa patch for etnaviv will land for your next release:  https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/978000:25
mntmnbut yeah the panel is pretty tolerant to underclocking00:25
mntmnah yeah, need to try that patch again00:25
cphealyThe GPU FPS numbers are quite significant.  00:26
cphealymntmn: can you remind me, do you have a current sensor in the design?  Something that shows how much current the HW is consuming at any given time.00:27
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mntmncphealy: yes, you can see the current in the battery status screen on the oled00:31
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mntmncphealy: but to see the consumption, you'd have to plug out wall power 00:31
mntmnboosterfive: your connection is flaky00:32
cphealyWhat current sensor is used?00:32
mntmncphealy: https://mntre.com/reform2/handbook/_static/schem/reform2-motherboardx.pdf00:33
mntmncphealy: page 1000:33
cphealyINA260, got it!  ;-)00:34
cphealyOK, so INA260 on I2C behind the LPC which is attached to the i.MX8M via SPI, correct?00:36
cphealyIs there any code that works for talking between LPC and i.MX8M?00:36
mntmncorrect, the spi connection is not active yet though, currently you can get the readings through uart if you want00:37
mntmni've written this down many times before but don't know where exactly right now00:37
mntmn(and i need to sleep now, gonna have a work day on sunday)00:37
cphealymntmn: Tnx for the details, have a good night.00:38
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mntmnn8!00:40
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sigridmntmn: it did not happen after trying like 5 times00:54
sigridACTION shrugs00:54
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kfxcphealy: https://community.mnt.re/t/how-do-you-watch-your-battery-status/280/900:59
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kfxsigrid: me and doppler have been keeping notes in a sr.ht repo, mostly about power managment so far:  https://git.sr.ht/~khm/reform_school01:10
kfxsigrid: I gave you permissions on that repo in case you find it useful01:10
sigridthanks!01:12
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sigridso far my biggest struggle is debian01:17
sigridwifi worked once, now auth keeps timing out. rfkill soft blocked by default01:17
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sigridi shall get an nvme next week and try void linux01:21
kfxI just put an alpine install on the nvme and let /sbin/reform-init chroot into it.  works great.01:22
kfxsooer or later I'll put step-by-step instructions for that in reform school01:23
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vagrantcfinally managed to get the u-boot patches working on top of u-boot v2022.01-rc3: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/list/?series=27678301:52
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chartreuseboosterfive: since your connection is dropping out all the time, maybe consider setting up an IRC bouncer, or on a server at home have irssi or such in a screen session. 02:39
chartreuseThat way your connection to the bouncer or server can drop, but the bouncer/server will remain connected02:40
chartreuseEspecially useful if you're on a mobile device or on flakey wifi and such02:40
chartreuseAlso for an older message, boosterfive: When I've had issues with the suspend the circle+space always worked for me, but would have issues after powering up with the network card rapidly disconencting and reappearing or something like that02:42
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cphealykfx: tnx for the link.  It seems that at some point it would be good to either create a serdev based kernel driver for getting data from the LPC or a SPI driver for doing the same.03:07
cphealyIdeally, all the battery and power data would be exposed via the HWMON API or drivers/power/supply driver.03:07
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boosterfivesorry folks. I just left the connection live on the reform and went to bed. It turns out the Gamja, the webclient tends to freak out after a long session.07:43
boosterfiveI am back to just using the libera.chat web client, but I thrink I'll just be disconnecting when not actually here.07:44
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boosterfiveso I get why IRC has advantages that make it optimal for this sort of thing here, but it sure would be nice if pictures could be shared here. Have we thought about doing a XMPP Reform Community room? Or is the likelihood that it will degenerate into memes too great to consider it?13:13
boosterfiveIn other news, I'm wondering what email client you all are using on your Reforms? I would like something that can use multiple accounts and gives you a consolidated inbox instead of multiple ones. It seems that Evolution does not have a unified inbox.13:16
boosterfiveNormally on Linux I use Mailspring, but they aren't currently supporting ARM13:17
mntmnpictures are not necessary for this kind of discussion13:17
mntmnotherwise you can just use a pastebin and link it here13:17
mntmnboosterfive: maybe? https://www.svenbit.com/2011/04/create-a-unified-inbox-folder-in-evolution/13:18
boosterfiveI figured that would be the answer.13:31
boosterfiveI just meant to help facilitate conversation, the ability to share pictures, for example, might be a good thing.13:32
boosterfiveHowever, as this room is yet another source of work for you, I could understand trying to limit it in specific ways to help keep the workload manageable.13:33
boosterfiveAll good13:33
sigridi usually scp one and share a link if needed. there are public services for that available as well13:34
boosterfivemntmn: That link for Evolution is perfect. Thank you!13:37
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* reform13681 -> nsc16:24
nscare there best practise intructions for updating/installing a new Linux kernel?16:26
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mntmnnsc_: i think there's something on community.mnt.re, search for "kernel" perhaps17:18
nsc_mntmn: thanks, I'll have a look17:18
sigridI have connected to serial and trying to stop u-boot from autobooting. for some reason it does not seem to react to any key, although linux (that boots anyway) does17:31
sigridanything I might be missing?17:31
sigridshould I just change the env vars on the sd card to get it to stop booting on its own?17:33
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sigridwith a different (shorter too) usb cable it worked. MAGIC18:53
mntmnadvanced magick19:08
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erlehmannboosterfive emacs notmuch is cool21:58
erlehmann+ offlineimap + msmtp21:58
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boosterfivehas anyone had any luck getting things like Steam or Lutris working on the Reform?22:07
boosterfiveI think GoG is probably the best way to go as DosBox runs great on here22:07
swiveli think mntmn wrote up a gaming on reform post which touched on Steam22:11
mntmndidn't go all the way with steam yet as it needs both box64 & box3222:12
mntmnbecause steam is mixed 64/32 bit22:12
mntmnboosterfive: you can run some gog games with box64/32 with JIT also... check my gaming thread22:13
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ex-parrotboosterfive: if you want to paste an image the easy thing is to use a paster that supports it. I run one at paste.hotplate.co.nz that you're welcome to use22:39
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boosterfivethanks everyone. I figured box64/86 were going to be a part of the equation22:58
boosterfiveThanks ex-parrot for the offer, if I need to share an image I'll happily take you up on the offer.22:58
ex-parrot_b22:58
ex-parrotIRC is nicely composable like that22:59
boosterfiveso does anyone know how to get the OLED screen to post the MNT Reform logo outside of turning the machine on?22:59
boosterfiveI find the little OLED screen one of the coolest parts of the Reform23:00
ex-parrotit is awesome eh23:00
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vagrantcis there a list of all the cpu/memory board replacements in progress for the mnt reform2?23:27
vagrantcare any arm64 rockchip or allwinner based?23:27
ex-parrotI think the pine64-in-cm4-adapter one is rockhip isn't it?23:28
ex-parrothttps://wiki.pine64.org/wiki/SOQuartz23:29
ex-parrotRK356623:29
vagrantcyeah, that looks promising23:30
vagrantchttps://mastodon.social/@mntmn/10742248659155010423:30
vagrantclargely curious if any of them can be used without binary blob firmwares ...23:31
vagrantcpart of what i found exciting with the mnt reform2 was the upgradability of various components...23:34
ex-parrotit is cool eh23:45
vagrantcwould be really cool to see a board based on sifive's fu740 riscv64 SoC23:46
vagrantcalthough it's still pretty slow ...23:47
ex-parrotdoes a computer need to be fast?23:51
vagrantcit is certainly useful sometimes :)23:52
vagrantcthat said, i'm using an original pinebook right now, which isn't particularly fast either23:53
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vagrantcthe CPUs on the mnt/reform2 might be a little faster, but twice the ram is definitely welcome :)23:54
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bluerisevagrantc: I think I remember you from my U-Boot patchsets :)23:57
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