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| + frank2 (~frank@91.229.143.153) | 12:09 | |
| frank2 | Anyone have done any hacking to get a ortholinear keyboard? | 12:09 |
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| frank2 | its the only thing hloding me back from buying the laptop | 12:10 |
| mntmn | frank2: have some good news for you | 12:37 |
| mntmn | frank2: https://twitter.com/OrtholinearKB/status/1411018163685187585?s=19 | 12:37 |
| mntmn | frank2: and there's another project in this thread https://community.mnt.re/t/ortho-keyboard-mod-that-happened-already-right/152 | 12:38 |
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| frank2 | wow mntmn , awesome | 13:35 |
| emery | where is that reform book at? | 14:56 |
| emery | not easy to find https://mntre.com/reform2/handbook/index.html | 14:57 |
| mntmn | all books are linked here https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2020-05-08-the-much-more-personal-computer.html | 15:06 |
| + mjw (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org) | 15:10 | |
| mjw | mntmn, so I finally found time to put some tape over those 3 solder points | 15:13 |
| mntmn | mjw: good! | 15:14 |
| mjw | so far so good everything seems to work, except for pressing the 'n' key too hard... | 15:14 |
| mntmn | mjw: what happens when pressing N too hard? | 15:14 |
| mjw | As you can see pressing it softly works fine and I am almost used to it now. | 15:14 |
| mntmn | mjw: anything weird on the N key solder joint? | 15:15 |
| mjw | But if I press it too hard it produces "n7uh" | 15:15 |
| mjw | weird isn't it? It didn't do that before. What could it be? | 15:16 |
| mjw | Maybe typing this on the mnt reform is not the best way to investigate, I obviously cannot look at the inside right now :) | 15:17 |
| mjw | mmmbbbjjjhhh n7uhn7uhuh77uhn | 15:17 |
| emery | mjw: loosen the screws on the heat sink? | 15:17 |
| mjw | But I can show you, none of the neighbouring keys show something weird like that. And it really is only when I press N hard... | 15:18 |
| emery | mjw: if the heatsink screws extend to far through the main board they can touch the joints on the keyboard | 15:20 |
| mjw | OK so open up and loosen all screws a bit? | 15:21 |
| mntmn | emery: that was changed after the beta version though | 15:22 |
| mntmn | the screws are not as long anymore and also the heatsink has proper spacers now | 15:22 |
| emery | ok, then idk | 15:22 |
| mntmn | mjw: but maybe there's some other short?! | 15:22 |
| mjw | I'll look. Back later! | 15:23 |
| mjw | ACTION isn't really a hardware hacker though, I can look at the board and won't know if anything is really wrong. | 15:24 |
| mjw | Also, look a whole sentence with lots of Ns and not funny thing... | 15:25 |
| mjw | Pressing it N&UH&UHN&UH&UH | 15:25 |
| mjw | yeah :{ | 15:25 |
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| mntmn | that's a whole column being triggered | 15:30 |
| mntmn | nuh7 are all the same column | 15:31 |
| + mjw (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org) | 16:11 | |
| mjw | So it might have been some other pins. So I put some tape over those too. | 16:12 |
| mjw | Sadly now it doesn't want to boot | 16:12 |
| mjw | I must have done something so that the battary status thing shows just zeros and a blinking battery. | 16:13 |
| mjw | Plugging in the power adapter doesn't seem to change anything. | 16:13 |
| mjw | So now typing on a spare laptop | 16:13 |
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| + freakazoid333 (~freakazoi@72.168.176.90) | 16:14 | |
| + mark__ (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org) | 16:20 | |
| mark__ | O look! Pulled out the batteries, now it boots while plugged in... | 16:21 |
| mark__ | And NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn | 16:21 |
| mark__ | So it probably was the extra tape that helped get N back to normal | 16:22 |
| mark__ | Now to figure out why it won't boot with the batteries in.... | 16:22 |
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| + mark__ (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org) | 16:37 | |
| mark__ | And look, put the batteries back in and now it does boot... | 16:37 |
| mark__ | And the NNNNNnnnnn key is still fixed | 16:37 |
| mark__ | ACTION happy | 16:38 |
| mjw | emery, mntmn, I think the NNnn thing was the little solder thingies opposite of it. I put tape over it and now everything is fine even if I press N really hard. | 16:39 |
| mark__ | And also odd, it now suddenly says the batteries are 100%. Even though just seconds ago it was putting on ??? and blinking battery icon. | 16:49 |
| mark__ | ACTION not complaining though, everything look OK now | 16:50 |
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| * mark__ -> mjw | 16:55 | |
| mntmn | mjw: awesome, congratz on diy fixing it | 17:15 |
| mntmn | in the future we might put some sort of isolation mat/foil between the boards | 17:15 |
| - freakazoid333 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~freakazoi@72.168.176.90) | 17:30 | |
| + freakazoid333 (~freakazoi@72.168.176.90) | 17:30 | |
| mjw | mntmn, might that odd battery suddenly shows up as dead/empty be the other thing you recommended fixing? | 17:34 |
| mjw | I am not sure why pulling the batteries (twice) and putting them back in (twice) suddenly fixed it. | 17:35 |
| mntmn | mjw: but what are the voltages shown in battery status view? | 18:41 |
| mjw | mntmn, 3.4 (and one 3.9) - 28,24v | 18:50 |
| mjw | Before they were all 0.0 | 18:50 |
| mntmn | mjw: are the connectors/plugs fully plugged in? | 19:32 |
| mntmn | the voltages sound good though | 19:32 |
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| + erlehmann (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-175.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 20:05 | |
| mjw | mntmn, as far as I can tell, yes they are fully plugged in. | 20:57 |
| mntmn | maybe LPC didn't respond first | 20:58 |
| mjw | I don't have any problem now. It was just odd that at first everything showed up as zero.zero and the reform wouldn't boot even when plugged in. | 20:58 |
| mjw | It all seems fine now though. | 20:58 |
| - erlehmann (QUIT: Quit: Just say no, then the virus can not enter your body without your consent.) (~erle@dynamic-046-114-034-175.46.114.pool.telefonica.de) | 21:06 | |
| furan | m.2 to mpcie carrier doesn't seem to allow a carried m.2 to be visible, shows nothing on lspci | 21:43 |
| furan | well, doesn't work with the card I'm trying, I'll try a few | 21:45 |
| mntmn | furan: interesting! | 22:01 |
| furan | wifi mpcie is still fine | 22:10 |
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