2021-07-03.log

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+ frank2 (~frank@91.229.143.153)12:09
frank2Anyone have done any hacking to get a ortholinear keyboard?12:09
frank2its the only thing hloding me back from buying the laptop12:10
mntmnfrank2: have some good news for you12:37
mntmnfrank2: https://twitter.com/OrtholinearKB/status/1411018163685187585?s=1912:37
mntmnfrank2: and there's another project in this thread https://community.mnt.re/t/ortho-keyboard-mod-that-happened-already-right/15212:38
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frank2wow mntmn , awesome13:35
emerywhere is that reform book at?14:56
emerynot easy to find https://mntre.com/reform2/handbook/index.html14:57
mntmnall books are linked here https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2020-05-08-the-much-more-personal-computer.html15:06
+ mjw (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org)15:10
mjwmntmn, so I finally found time to put some tape over those 3 solder points15:13
mntmnmjw: good!15:14
mjwso far so good everything seems to work, except for pressing the 'n' key too hard...15:14
mntmnmjw: what happens when pressing N too hard?15:14
mjwAs you can see pressing it softly works fine and I am almost used to it now.15:14
mntmnmjw: anything weird on the N key solder joint?15:15
mjwBut if I press it too hard it produces "n7uh"15:15
mjwweird isn't it? It didn't do that before. What could it be?15:16
mjwMaybe typing this on the mnt reform is not the best way to investigate, I obviously cannot look at the inside right now :)15:17
mjwmmmbbbjjjhhh  n7uhn7uhuh77uhn15:17
emerymjw: loosen the screws on the heat sink?15:17
mjwBut I can show you, none of the neighbouring keys show something weird like that. And it really is only when I press N hard...15:18
emerymjw: if the heatsink screws extend to far through the main board they can touch the joints on the keyboard15:20
mjwOK so open up and loosen all screws a bit?15:21
mntmnemery: that was changed after the beta version though15:22
mntmnthe screws are not as long anymore and also the heatsink has proper spacers now15:22
emeryok, then idk15:22
mntmnmjw: but maybe there's some other short?! 15:22
mjwI'll look. Back later!15:23
mjwACTION isn't really a hardware hacker though, I can look at the board and won't know if anything is really wrong.15:24
mjwAlso, look a whole sentence with lots of Ns and not funny thing...15:25
mjwPressing it N&UH&UHN&UH&UH15:25
mjwyeah :{15:25
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mntmnthat's a whole column being triggered15:30
mntmnnuh7 are all the same column15:31
+ mjw (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org)16:11
mjwSo it might have been some other pins. So I put some tape over those too.16:12
mjwSadly now it doesn't want to boot16:12
mjwI must have done something so that the battary status thing shows just zeros and a blinking battery.16:13
mjwPlugging in the power adapter doesn't seem to change anything.16:13
mjwSo now typing on a spare laptop16:13
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+ mark__ (~mark@herd.wildebeest.org)16:20
mark__O look! Pulled out the batteries, now it boots while plugged in...16:21
mark__And NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn16:21
mark__So it probably was the extra tape that helped get N back to normal16:22
mark__Now to figure out why it won't boot with the batteries in....16:22
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mark__And look, put the batteries back in and now it does boot...16:37
mark__And the NNNNNnnnnn key is still fixed16:37
mark__ACTION happy16:38
mjwemery, mntmn, I think the NNnn thing was the little solder thingies opposite of it. I put tape over it and now everything is fine even if I press N really hard.16:39
mark__And also odd, it now suddenly says the batteries are 100%. Even though just seconds ago it was putting on ??? and blinking battery icon.16:49
mark__ACTION not complaining though, everything look OK now16:50
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mntmnmjw: awesome, congratz on diy fixing it17:15
mntmnin the future we might put some sort of isolation mat/foil between the boards17:15
- freakazoid333 (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~freakazoi@72.168.176.90)17:30
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mjwmntmn, might that odd battery suddenly shows up as dead/empty be the other thing you recommended fixing?17:34
mjwI am not sure why pulling the batteries (twice) and putting them back in (twice) suddenly fixed it.17:35
mntmnmjw: but what are the voltages shown in battery status view?18:41
mjwmntmn, 3.4 (and one 3.9) - 28,24v18:50
mjwBefore they were all 0.018:50
mntmnmjw: are the connectors/plugs fully plugged in?19:32
mntmnthe voltages sound good though19:32
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mjwmntmn, as far as I can tell, yes they are fully plugged in.20:57
mntmnmaybe LPC didn't respond first20:58
mjwI don't have any problem now. It was just odd that at first everything showed up as zero.zero and the reform wouldn't boot even when plugged in.20:58
mjwIt all seems fine now though.20:58
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furanm.2 to mpcie carrier doesn't seem to allow a carried m.2 to be visible, shows nothing on lspci21:43
furanwell, doesn't work with the card I'm trying, I'll try a few21:45
mntmnfuran: interesting!22:01
furanwifi mpcie is still fine22:10

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