2026-10-28.log

minuteEsi: haha that's cool, thanks for spreading the word!00:06
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gordon1led covers are wip, but https://tinystash.undef.im/il/nWgdmmYYt23D3Jy7ffHEPZZWj44Zdh9ezMyqj6MtMF8QF5gVSekddnLpaXgku9bMcCyxBuRKbDtTYbKCKyTp3MA.JPG12:11
MartiniMoesigrid: thanks a lot for the s2idle patches! Just testing them on NixOS now :)12:13
+ paperManu (~paperManu@72.10.153.237)12:15
MartiniMoesigrid: does the keyboard backlight turn off when you suspend? in my tests it stayed on which of course draws some power12:20
minuteMartiniMoe: you'd have to do a pre suspend hook for that12:32
minutewe used to have stuff like that for imx8mq12:32
minuteMartiniMoe: sooo does s2idle work for you incl wake?12:33
MartiniMoeminute: I am currently not exactly sure ^^ the screen goes black on `systemctl suspend` and comes back on when I do the OLED wake command, that I can tell you for now12:37
+ riabenko (~riabenko@2a01:d0:333::831)12:37
joschwow o012:38
MartiniMoeReally I just added the `rockchip-inno-usb2-clk480m-leave-suspend.patch` to kernel 7.2.6. Am I missing something or is that all that was missing? :D12:42
MartiniMoepower consumption on the oled shows ~0.39A when its in suspend12:45
MartiniMoeoops I'm sorry, the patch I applied is called `8200-phy-rockchip-inno-usb2-ensure-PHY-is-running-when-clock-is-requested.patch` in the alpine repo sigrid linked12:55
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 254 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)12:58
minuteMartiniMoe: well sounds like it works13:03
minute0.39A with keyboard backlight or did you turn it off?13:03
minuteand this is on classic?13:03
MartiniMoeon pocket reform, with keyboard backlight off13:04
- dd88 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 243 seconds) (~dd88@2601:646:8683:7820:bc20:602e:8a95:8f36)13:11
Esiwait what... am I reading this right. you got suspend to work on the rk3588 pocket?13:14
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joschEsi: s2idle, not technically "suspend to ram"13:19
Esiah13:19
joschbut it depends on how you want to name things -- yes, it will consume way less energy which is probalby what you are looking for :)13:19
MartiniMoeEsi: looks like it. I just applied the patch sigrid linked to my NixOS kernel. So I basically have no idea what I am doing, but it seems to somewhat work ^^13:23
MartiniMoe0.39A however still seems a bit high. Not sure if theres something wrong or if this is as far is s2idle gets us on the pocket13:23
+ dd88 (~dd88@2601:646:8683:7820:bc20:602e:8a95:8f36)13:25
MartiniMoemaybe its a bit higher because of my nvme drive13:31
sigrid12:20 < MartiniMoe> sigrid: does the keyboard backlight turn off when you suspend? in my tests it stayed on which of course draws some power13:36
sigridI will have to check later. as I have no letters engraved on the keys I don't really use backlight13:36
sigridiirc there were *two* patches, one for usb, one for pci13:38
sigridpretty sure the pci one is 8309-PCI-dw-rockchip-Add-system-PM-support.patch13:40
MartiniMoesigrid: It looks like the pci patch is already in mnts 7.2.6 tree that i use to build my kernel :)13:45
sigridok, perfect13:45
joschhuh, i could run a build with 8200-phy-rockchip-inno-usb2-ensure-PHY-is-running-when-clock-is-requested.patch on top and we see what happens?13:46
joschbecause maybe the kernel config in debian is still not right, no idea13:46
sigridI checked - kbd backlight is on after s2idle, so it's the same here (on classic reform)13:48
MartiniMoesigrid: thanks, so I'll take the route minute suggested with a pre-suspend-hook to disable it13:50
MartiniMoejosch: sure, would be awesome to see it work on the debian kernel too :)13:50
+ paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable065.144-200-24.mc.videotron.ca)13:50
MartiniMoesigrid: out of curiosity: whats your power consumption as shown on the OLED when its in s2idle?13:52
sigrid0.120A13:53
MartiniMoesigrid: oh nice, then maybe something is still not working 100% with my setup13:54
sigridit takes 0.260A when fully powered on, so definitely something's off13:55
MartiniMoewow, mine takes ~0.7 - 0.8A when powered on 13:58
MartiniMoeoh wait, youre on the classic reform, right?14:01
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sigridMartiniMoe: yep14:42
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joschokay, if anybody wants to try out if adding the 8200-phy-rockchip-inno-usb2-ensure-PHY-is-running-when-clock-is-requested.patch patch on top of the MNT linux debian kernel does anything, here is a repository that you can try:15:46
joschdeb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/24851/artifacts/raw/repo reform main15:46
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Esioh my!16:38
Esithank you16:38
+ wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)17:10
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- minute (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~mntirc@softboy.mntmn.com)17:23
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+ minute (~mntirc@softboy.mntmn.com)17:36
MartiniMoeI am very curious if it will work :)17:55
MartiniMoeFor reference you can see how I configured the kernel for NixOS here https://git.sr.ht/~martinimoe/nixos-config/tree/main/item/nixos/normandy/kernel_mnt.nix and here https://git.sr.ht/~martinimoe/nixos-config/tree/main/item/nixos/normandy/linux-mnt-reform.nix17:57
minutequick performance/app testing video i shot for MNT Quasar 8750 (the top model) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kk-fdTLBMQ18:07
minutejosch: great, i'll test it, thanks for putting together a build18:07
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Esiwill test this evening :)19:04
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+ realleif (~realleif@sdfeu.org)21:12
Esiadd repository, apt update and upgrade should be enough or do i need to enable something?21:58
Esior do i need to install something?21:58
minuteour gitlab is crawling atm, i'm gonna hide some repos like reform-boundary-uboot and mnt-reform-barebox from the public view for a short while22:01
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Esi"systemctl suspend" gives me access denied22:06
joschEsi: for the system images we run "systemctl mask suspend.target" to make it impossible to suspend22:07
joschEsi: you have to first unmask that target if you want to suspend via systemd22:07
joschbut that is supend, for s2idle explicitly you would run22:10
joschecho s2idle > /sys/power/mem_sleep22:10
joschecho mem > /sys/power/state22:10
Esiah22:11
Esihttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aB3C5WfP/irccloudcapture2306694517349644134.jpg22:13
Esiworks. although keyboard backlight stays on22:14
joschbut does it come back on?22:14
joschsuper+space22:14
EsiA goes from around 1 to 0.46322:14
Esiyes. used the oled menu to issue wake22:14
joschsweet!22:14
EsiSuper space does not work22:15
joschmaybe i misremember22:15
EsiOh accidentally did turn on in oled menu from sleep. It is not happy about that :P22:15
Esijust gave me a blank screen. issuing wake after that fixed it22:16
+ paperManu (~paperManu@72.10.153.237)22:20
+ paperManu_ (~paperManu@72.10.153.237)22:22
minuteok i'm gonna do a bigger change to the gitlab setup now where i turn off tls and install a custom reverse proxy so i have more control22:23
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Esii'm gonna see if i can fully charge the pocket and then leave it suspended/idle over night22:31
MartiniMoeI had like ~10% battery drain in one hour of s2idle. So its not gonna last that long :/22:39
Esiaw that's a bit rough22:43
Esigood for throwing it in the bag and jumping between classrooms though22:43
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joschhaha i leave factorio running with the reform in my backpack ;)22:50
minutenow trying to setup https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/22:51
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- Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)23:00
maeveHi. I can't access source.mnt.re (my connections are being refused). Is there any way I could be granted access / unblocked?23:03
maeveActually, I think I was on it recently-ish, so maybe its just down?23:08
amkyeah about half an hour ago it was mentioned being taken down for some changes so it may still be that23:13
maeveAh, that makes sense23:47
maeveLooks like GitLab is starting up right now23:48
minuteyeah i'm trying to get it to run again after moving it behind a new nginx+iocaine setup23:48
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@71.31.254.246)23:51
minutethe puma process is stuck with 100% cpu atm23:51
minutegitlab docs say to attach with gdb and cause a ruby backtrace :D23:51
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minuteah, was some local dns problem23:55
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+ kensanata (~alex@user/kensanata)23:55
minuteoh weird, eaddrinuse23:58

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