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| loon | it fits how you used it :) | 00:03 |
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| lidstah | I recall project management lessons when I was a student, and I want to make something that's both interesting and fun for them and for me (thus: they'll have a real technical project to manage) and which shows them how this kind of methodologies and tools can be useful when working with a team. Will add some corporate bullshit for the laugh :D | 00:04 |
| minute | josch: yes @ kdenlive, that was the issue | 00:05 |
| josch | minute: did you report it already? otherwise i can take care of that for you | 00:06 |
| minute | lidstah: what do you use for project mgmt software/methods? | 00:06 |
| minute | ah, openproject | 00:06 |
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| lidstah | minute: yeah, openproject, scrum/scrumban (per the lesson syllabus) | 00:08 |
| minute | i still think back to pivotal tracker sometimes | 00:09 |
| minute | i haven't seen sth like that again | 00:09 |
| lidstah | at work I have to cope with Jira. Jira and Confluence. I want to tear my eyeballs each time I have to cope with it | 00:09 |
| minute | yeah i had to use those at my last gig before MNT too :D | 00:10 |
| minute | today i use my own tool (mntfiles) but it needs a bit more polish still | 00:10 |
| lidstah | I wish you never had to cope with them again :) | 00:11 |
| lidstah | especially with all the "AI" they're shoving everywhere | 00:11 |
| lidstah | for my personnal projects I use kanboard, does the job, lightweight, never used pivotal tracker but it seemed like a nice tool from the screenshots I found online | 00:12 |
| minute | yeah what i liked about pivotal was that it automatically packaged tasks in sprints or however you want to call boxes of time | 00:14 |
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| minute | and drag+drop reordering | 00:14 |
| lidstah | I've tried other tools, but well, openproject did the job for what I needed (backlogs, sprints, kanban boards, project phases and such) | 00:15 |
| minute | so if your scoring wasn't totally off, it would always give an impression of the road ahead | 00:15 |
| lidstah | oh that was nice | 00:15 |
| minute | like, these tasks fit this week. but the rest come later | 00:15 |
| minute | i have a calendar widget in my tool but haven't yet written the algorithm for automatically shoving the tasks in there | 00:16 |
| minute | i do have the list reordering though | 00:17 |
| minute | so every day i look at the top of my list, and i sort things around and decide what i can tackle and what i have to put off yet again :D | 00:18 |
| minute | basically like a single column in kanban | 00:18 |
| lidstah | I do like the kanban way, but a mix of kanban and calendar might be a good way of … err… brb, need to find the correct english word :p | 00:19 |
| minute | hehe | 00:19 |
| lidstah | rha I know it | 00:19 |
| lidstah | and my tor circuit ten seconds lag doesn't help xD | 00:20 |
| josch | minute: i filed your kdenlive issue here: https://bugs.debian.org/1150945 | 00:22 |
| lidstah | "stay on track" is the closer I can get | 00:22 |
| minute | josch: many thanks! | 00:26 |
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| minute | lidstah: yeah exactly @ staying on track, or at least knowing in advance a probability of being able to pull off a certain amount of work until a deadline or money runs out... | 00:27 |
| lidstah | ah thank you, exactly this minute | 00:28 |
| spew | my waybar freezes sometimes but only when I'm running the battery module, does anyone know how to fix that? | 00:29 |
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| lidstah | gtg get some sleep here, sorry for the quite off-topic discussion but as always, it was nice and interesting to talk with you all. | 00:33 |
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| minute | josch: stephano: if i merge this like it is, will it cause you trouble, or is that granularity still OK? any squashing requested? | 13:37 |
| minute | josch: stephano: sorry forgot the link https://source.mnt.re/reform/linux/-/merge_requests/5/commits | 13:38 |
| minute | actually just squashing before merge should be ok i guess | 13:38 |
| minute | i also have to add all these models to reform-tools | 13:39 |
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| josch | minute: my recent criticism was only regarding the topic of making the patch stack grow indefinitely with each new rebase. If this is what you consider a meaningful splitting of your work then that's how it shall be. :) | 14:53 |
| minute | well i'm not sure if it has to be split tbh | 15:04 |
| minute | in this case squashing is probably fine, it's just DTSes | 15:04 |
| stephano | minute: that all works for me. | 15:33 |
| stephano | minute: the d1 dts doesn't compile. I think you need a disable on &spi. | 15:35 |
| josch | that sounds like minute is on 7.2 while stephano is on 7.3? | 15:37 |
| stephano | minute: Oh, nevermind, you have the disable. The compile just fails because the spi override needs to be at the top level. | 15:42 |
| stephano | josch: I'm just building the dts files from that branch. mostly because i haven't finished my first coffee and the news was too depressing to continue reading. better to start my day with dts files. ;) | 15:43 |
| josch | oh no now i don't want to look at the news... | 15:43 |
| stephano | you're good, it was US news. | 15:44 |
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| josch | the US invaded the country of my family, replaced its president with with the promise that she will get switched out if she doesn't do what the US wants and is now grabbing the oil -- US news were easier to ignore if they wouldn't affect the rest of us this much | 15:46 |
| - toomanydistros (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~toomanydi@user/toomanydistros) | 15:48 | |
| stephano | true, the US news does tend to be depressing on a global scale. i was reading regionally depressing news. i like to keep my mornings free of as much existential dread as possible. | 15:51 |
| josch | to avoid existential dread i just go and do some Debia... oh no... yes, I just do some MNT stuff :) | 15:59 |
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| josch | minute: how high is uefi/edk2 suppert on your list of priorities? I was looking through old MRs to make my day better (see my last message) and found https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/141 and https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/151 and the last commit to https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-edk2-rk3588/ is from more than a year ago | 16:26 |
| Zaba | for what it’s worth I don’t think UKIs are particularly useful unless you also want to do UEFI secure boot (which is pretty hard to do in a meaningful way) | 16:27 |
| Zaba | you can use normal kernel/initramfs/dtb files with a UEFI bootloader like systemd-boot | 16:28 |
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| minute | josch: i think it's part of a new nlnet grant actually, we could talk about that a bit later :3 | 16:39 |
| minute | we got a grant for some uboot stuff and making sure that some alternative OSes work well | 16:40 |
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| minute | stephano: oh thanks for checking the d1. i think i'm the only user of that file | 16:41 |
| minute | it's too expensive to throw that revision away :D | 16:41 |
| Zaba | ah I guess UKIs are necessary if you want a universal image because the dtbauto functionality only exists in the UKI kernel stub, but I don’t think that’s a very good solution to that problem | 16:41 |
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| minute | second prototype pcba of quasar 8750 is being baked here at the moment... wish me luck that this one turns on | 16:43 |
| minute | (it's the last engineering sample we have) | 16:43 |
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| josch | Zaba: i'm perfectly fine with kernel/initramfs/dtb but for some setups/boards/operating systems only UEFI booting is supported so my motivation is not "enable secure boot" (i don't care) but "enable use-cases where uefi is the only option" | 17:31 |
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| minute | ok cq8750s is up! | 18:20 |
| minute | it boots the default android | 18:20 |
| minute | i still had R133 fitted which caused a "long press" on the power button which made it reset every few seconds | 18:20 |
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| minute | > cat cpu7/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq | 18:28 |
| minute | > 4320000 | 18:28 |
| minute | *head explodes* | 18:28 |
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| mjw | :) so is this module just for the pocket reform or does it also make sense for the reform (next) as alternative to the RK3588? | 18:56 |
| minute | next and classic also | 18:59 |
| minute | but i haven't yet got uboot running :D | 18:59 |
| minute | i just booted into the default android console that was on it | 18:59 |
| mjw | I am not in a hurry, don't have my reform next yet :) | 19:00 |
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| mjw | But excited there is already work done on upgrades! | 19:05 |
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| lidstah | minute: 4.3GHz max freq? wow! iirc the 8750 is one core "high perf" 2.7GHz, 3 similar cores but with a lower freq "medium perf" 2.4GHz and 4 energy efficient cores where I don't remember the freq on those. | 19:27 |
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| minute | lidstah: no, the 8750 has 1 4.3ghz core and 7 3.5ghz cores. | 19:39 |
| minute | it's very different from the previous ones in that regard | 19:39 |
| minute | because it has oryon cpu cores | 19:39 |
| minute | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oryon | 19:40 |
| minute | it's 2nd generation, "8 elite" | 19:41 |
| minute | ah so it's probably 2+6, not 1+7 | 19:42 |
| minute | ah yes, sm8750.dtsi confirms 2+6 | 19:44 |
| - Gooberpatrol_66 (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 19:45 | |
| + Gooberpatrol_66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 19:45 | |
| lidstah | minute: wow that's quite a beast, thanks for the info | 20:16 |
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