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| elb | josch: hah well at least I'm consistent | 00:33 |
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| ianthetechie | I’m guessing the reason the trackball was not an option for the Next is space for the regular size? Curious if anyone has been thinking about trackball mods already. Maybe like a Pocket Reform size? | 06:37 |
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| lidstah | Was about to compile and try OpenSE4 (remake of space empire IV, an old 4X), going to the repo, it's "vibecoded". meh. | 13:48 |
| lidstah | ahah lol, got the steam survey on the reform xD here's what steamarm sees, if anyone interested: https://swarm.lidstah.info/?c4a31997ba5b6e2d#BNr6jogNtFczBTGpPfvsJrex8msoX3NCgZubaBkhbNhU - and the obligatory screenshot: https://celeano.lidstah.info/-bbkke25gLJ | 14:26 |
| lidstah | *steam hardware survey | 14:26 |
| josch | i wonder what would need to change for this window to display the correct information | 14:27 |
| lidstah | josch: I'm wondering how the steam client fetch these informations. if it fetches information from /proc/cpuinfo for e.g, there's not much information there about manufacturer/cpu | 14:46 |
| lidstah | the client does seems to search amd64 cpu features (like sse2/3/4, etc) but not arm ones | 14:47 |
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| josch | there is lscpu which uses lookup tables to give you better information than what you can see in /proc/cpuinfo on arm | 14:55 |
| josch | and the gnome desktop uses gtop which is also bad with arm: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libgtop/-/work_items/66 | 14:56 |
| elb | heh /proc/cpuinfo is so vestigial on some arm systems it's funny | 16:13 |
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| lidstah | oh, kernel 7.2.9 | 17:19 |
| lidstah | reboot time :) | 17:19 |
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| josch | minute: i found out how to let gnome-settings show a fitting model and processor: https://mister-muffin.de/p/yx6z.png | 19:02 |
| josch | unfortunately how to do it sucks :( | 19:02 |
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| lidstah | mmh, the "King in the Mountain" demo works perfect on the reform (base-building/mining game a bit like KeeperRL/light dwarf fortress, quite fun). | 19:57 |
| lidstah | should be available next month | 19:57 |
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| orva | I just learned the correct definition of CAD and thought that people here might want to learn that as well: CAD = cardboard aided design. So, cardboard templates | 20:11 |
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| gordon1 | josch: yeah, i tried my best to put the track stick screw footprint in my ortho layout so it match the factory screws, but no luck, actually makes it harder since they do not line up with the grid crossing | 21:05 |
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| gordon1 | https://tinystash.undef.im/il/6eP48z8aXSjtAMPTnbTMsG5ivKmjVJgJHKkZ9TSxDdpLV8n4uvHejK4oLaRM4Yguohq2Pd5uhwbfdZE6MoSQFeg.png | 21:29 |
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| josch | gordon1: you could put it in 90° turned, no? | 22:33 |
| minute | josch: looks cool, how did you do it? patch the library? | 22:40 |
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| josch | minute: for the CPU core information yes, libgtop2 is patched to evaluate lscpu output https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/commit/93bfbd13b3898417bcdf411efaec88d555321174 | 22:43 |
| Esi | there's a fablab not far from me (30 minute bikeride) that I now have access to. learned how to use a lasercutter the other day, and now there's a part of me that is very much tempted to try doing some stuff to mod my pocket reform. | 22:43 |
| Esi | Transparent front/backplate maybe? :thinking_face: | 22:43 |
| josch | the problem with that approach is that libgtop2 upstream will not merge this patch because it believes that it's bad to call out to a tool and tha this information should be provided in form of a library (i don't think they are wrong) | 22:44 |
| Esi | i would love to have a wooden back/front plate but I don't think i could get wood that is thin enough though | 22:44 |
| josch | minute: even worse is how i made the model string appear. According to the systemd hostnamectl source, there is no other way than either using dmi information (which is not available on arm) or writing the info into /etc/machine-info (that's what i did) | 22:45 |
| josch | and using /etc/machine-info is bad because it means that the information will become wrong the moment somebody puts the same sd-card into another device... | 22:46 |
| josch | Esi: how about reproducing/improving on this idea: https://community.mnt.re/t/cable-management/4018 | 22:48 |
| Esi | haha nice. that is tempting | 22:54 |
| Esi | thank you | 22:54 |
| Esi | i wonder if i will run into some thermal issues if i would replace the backplate and use some other material... | 22:59 |
| Esi | is the bronze colored MNT logo on the plate just for cosmetic reasons or is it actually there for thermal reasons and "through" the plate and touches the cpu? | 23:00 |
| josch | Esi: the backplate of the top part of the pocket is just a pcb. It contains a sheet of copper to distribute the heat. This would work even without the MNT logo. It probably works a bit better with the MNT logo because heat is transferred a tiny bit better to the surrounding air if there is no paint on top of the copper. | 23:05 |
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| Esi | aaah clever | 23:16 |
| josch | Esi: a problem of the very first version of that pcb was, that it accidentally had the copper sheet span the whole area of the back side. This distributed the heat really well but it killed wifi reception. Today's version of the backplate has the copper only in the center of the backplate and no copper sheet at the sides so that you can put wifi, bluetooth, gnss, lte antennas there. | 23:20 |
| Esi | ah good to know | 23:22 |
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