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| minute | ehm what :D https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2026/msg00441.html?pow_referer= | 11:06 |
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| + buckket (~buckket@vps.buckket.org) | 11:06 | |
| svp | letting the kernel get both slop contributions and the ability to assign CVEs was a mistake | 11:07 |
| svp | since it's effectively a DDoS attack on the reviewers' time and patience now CVE numbers are thrown at way more issues | 11:08 |
| Esi | oh my | 11:09 |
| svp | (somewhat sure it's part of the design to make CVEs effectively mean nothing) | 11:09 |
| ianthetechie | lol yeah I saw that… wild times. | 11:29 |
| ianthetechie | Speaking of going off the beaten path, I’m working on bringing up FreeBSD on a similar board with an RK3588 ahead of receiving my Next. | 11:30 |
| ianthetechie | I have several other computers but would love to make this more or less daily drivable. Biggest trick will be the Panafrost driver which still isn’t in tree IIRC. | 11:31 |
| josch | i thought netbsd was the best choice these days for a non-slop kernel? | 11:35 |
| josch | i'm back in the hospital but i have my pocket reform with me so i can at least do fun things and feel better :) | 11:36 |
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| bremner | yeah, I want to get back to my "guix+crypttab on pocket" project, but no time at the moment. Maybe later in october. | 12:19 |
| ianthetechie | I don’t believe use of a particular tool in any capacity automatically makes something “slop.” All of the BSDs are high quality. I’m just most comfortable with FreeBSD. It was what got me into FOSS around 2003. Also interested to port Net and Open but less familiar with them. | 12:31 |
| ianthetechie | I’m also very interested in Redox but the arm64 port is reallllly rough still. | 12:33 |
| minute | josch: i wish you all the best for your recovery! | 12:37 |
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| + habasud (~habasud@user/habasud) | 12:45 | |
| habasud | @minute | 12:46 |
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| habasud73 | @minute I, too, cannot access source.mnt.re. I have a momentary ip located at SWN Giga which should be in the range of 89.56.0.0/15 Quite a lot possibilities. Is there a way to unblock me? | 12:50 |
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| minute | habasud73: if you send me your full ip i can do it | 13:19 |
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| josch | minute: thank you! And congrats to you to the beginning of the reform next shipments happening these days. Great to hear! :) | 13:46 |
| minute | thaaanks | 13:50 |
| + simba (~simba@2a00:fac0:3521:a300:19b0:a38b:9afc:1e0a) | 13:58 | |
| minute | now need to figure out why the hell eDP screen updates are super snail slow on rk3588 reform next with kernel 7.2.8 build | 13:59 |
| minute | one can actually see the display refresh at a few Hz... maybe weird EDID problem | 14:00 |
| orva | How often EDID problems are _not_ weird? x) | 14:01 |
| minute | that's true | 14:01 |
| minute | sway says: Current mode: 1920x1080 @ 60.010 Hz | 14:02 |
| minute | doesn't work, unlike on 8550: swaymsg "output eDP-1 mode --custom 1920x1080@65Hz" | 14:03 |
| minute | (any Hz i enter there makes it go black) | 14:03 |
| minute | brings back the old slow display: swaymsg "output eDP-1 mode 1920x1080" | 14:03 |
| minute | kind of weird line in dmesg > [ 485.320079] rockchip-dp fdec0000.edp: Ignoring timeout of video streamclk ok | 14:05 |
| minute | funny "ok" there | 14:05 |
| minute | also > [ 424.547528] rockchip-drm display-subsystem: [drm] wait for vp2 dsp_hold timeout | 14:05 |
| - simba (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~simba@2a00:fac0:3521:a300:19b0:a38b:9afc:1e0a) | 14:05 | |
| minute | > [ 401.606984] rockchip-drm display-subsystem: [drm] *ERROR* POST_BUF_EMPTY irq err at vp2 | 14:05 |
| minute | aha this is some kind of VOP2 problem | 14:05 |
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| minute | ah, the .dts is not my latest version | 14:10 |
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| minute | ok, i've changed the rules of the source.mnt.re blocking game | 14:30 |
| minute | all blocked IPs now time out after 3600 seconds | 14:30 |
| minute | this should greatly reduce the problems of IP address reuse | 14:30 |
| minute | ok, .dtb update did not fix the problem @ slow display update glitch | 14:35 |
| minute | now trying to revert my vop2 layers patch | 14:37 |
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| * talos4 -> talos | 14:53 | |
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| minute | ok, changing vp assignments fixed this issue | 15:25 |
| josch | \o/ | 16:00 |
| josch | minute: that's done in the dtb? | 16:00 |
| minute | josch: yes | 16:00 |
| minute | josch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/linux/-/commit/68a2fed89ea52f5a0ddc65dab6569777b2bc6492 | 16:01 |
| minute | now testing on imx8mp pocket | 16:01 |
| minute | mega strange, imx8mp booted the old 6.x kernel instead | 16:05 |
| josch | minute: then good news because before, we used the same dtb independent of the kernel version and that created trouble when the rk3588 patch stack changed such that older kernels with older patch stacks required a different dtb than newer kernels. With the new git branch style, each kernel version has its own dtb which means you can now make any change you want without breaking older kernel versions | 16:06 |
| josch | (for example for debian stable) | 16:06 |
| minute | nice. and i understand now why imx8mp fails to boot the new kernel. old/badly configured uboot in terms of kernel compression. i saw your hint in the CI yaml | 16:09 |
| - spew (QUIT: Quit: nyaa~) (~spew@user/spew) | 16:11 | |
| + spew (~spew@user/spew) | 16:11 | |
| josch | nice! good to hear that comments like this help sometimes :) | 16:21 |
| minute | yes! | 16:22 |
| minute | ok, locally built 7.2.6 works on imx8mp | 16:22 |
| minute | in the meantime we have a full build so can test 7.2.8 now | 16:22 |
| minute | build is > deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/24556/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 16:24 |
| + simba (~simba@2a00:fac0:3521:a300:19b0:a38b:9afc:1e0a) | 16:26 | |
| minute | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 7.2.8-mnt-reform-arm64 (aarch64) | 16:28 |
| minute | Consult /var/lib/dkms/reform2_lpc/1.85/build/make.log for more information. | 16:28 |
| minute | meh | 16:29 |
| minute | bizarre errors | 16:29 |
| minute | > warning: pahole version differs from the one used to build the kernel | 16:29 |
| minute | > /tmp/cc9gfxoB.s:1617: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.aeabi_subsection' | 16:29 |
| minute | > /tmp/cc9gfxoB.s:1618: Error: unknown pseudo-op: `.aeabi_attribute' | 16:29 |
| - simba (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (~simba@2a00:fac0:3521:a300:19b0:a38b:9afc:1e0a) | 16:31 | |
| minute | trying to upgrade binutils | 16:32 |
| minute | aha, that fixed it! | 16:33 |
| - riabenko (QUIT: Quit: riabenko) (~riabenko@2a01:d0:333::831) | 16:35 | |
| minute | aha, and display comes up way too late in the boot, after systemd | 16:37 |
| minute | that would explain why it isn't possible to see luks unlock prompt anymore on imx8mp | 16:37 |
| minute | mntsc and panel are already probed after 5 seconds | 16:38 |
| minute | later, reform2_lpc is loaded for no reason | 16:39 |
| minute | lcdif only initializes after 15 seconds, probably some driver missing again in initramfs. this is getting annoying | 16:40 |
| minute | > [ 15.723929] clk: failed to reparent clk_ext2 to audio_pll2_out: -22 | 16:40 |
| minute | [ 15.724724] [drm] Initialized imx-lcdif 1.0.0 for 32e80000.display-controller on minor 0 | 16:40 |
| josch | good you can reproduce that problem on imx8mp | 16:40 |
| minute | gnah i want to debug this but something appends console=tty1 _after_ my bootargs that i set in uboot | 16:43 |
| minute | so i can't type anything into initramfs | 16:44 |
| minute | i'll try keep_bootcon earlycon | 16:44 |
| josch | minute: both extlinux.conf and boot.scr append that to make sure that the luks prompt shows up on the screen instead of showing up on serial -- how are you booting? | 16:46 |
| minute | i'm not trying to reach the luks prompt but i'm doing break=modules | 16:47 |
| minute | so i can inspect in initramfs what devices are deferred/which modules are missing | 16:47 |
| minute | but it doesn't show me a prompt on the serial console | 16:47 |
| minute | it just sits there. and i'm sure this is because of the console=tty1 at the end. | 16:47 |
| josch | usually you are using extlinux.conf, right? you have that auto-generated or wrote it manually? | 16:47 |
| minute | i'm booting again now normally so i can ssh in and examine that | 16:48 |
| minute | (everything just takes long on imx) | 16:48 |
| minute | ah yeah it's indeed extlinux.conf that does that | 16:49 |
| josch | i'm on rk3588 for a few weeks now and i think it made me addicted and i cannot go back to the slower SoMs XD | 16:49 |
| minute | yeah it's really painful to fix things there... | 16:49 |
| minute | but i have to | 16:49 |
| kfx | I was thinking of switching back to imx8mq just this morning :) | 16:50 |
| kfx | it's slow, but it's got early video and I think I have a better chance of getting netbsd going | 16:50 |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable065.144-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 16:55 | |
| minute | imx8mq at least has a better gpu than imxmp | 16:56 |
| minute | imx8mp | 16:57 |
| minute | ok, have a candidate list of about 50 modules to try... | 17:14 |
| + simba (~simba@2a00:fac0:3521:a300:19b0:a38b:9afc:1e0a) | 17:16 | |
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| minute | still haven't found it... this is pure torture | 17:45 |
| minute | the mxsfb driver is not probing i think | 17:49 |
| minute | because it probably needs something else, but linux doesn't want to tell me what that is | 17:49 |
| + enticeing (~enticeing@user/enticeing) | 17:57 | |
| * enticeing -> ntcng | 17:57 | |
| minute | woah what, the missing module is /mnt/lib/modules/7.2.8-mnt-reform-arm64/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/mxsfb/imx-lcdif.ko.xz | 18:01 |
| - gordon1 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~gordon1@citadel.niflheim.info) | 18:03 | |
| + gordon1 (~gordon1@citadel.niflheim.info) | 18:03 | |
| minute | josch: possible fix https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/commit/8a2eb3d5383bb39e4cf3adde72e3d5f509ad8294 | 18:06 |
| - gordon1 (QUIT: Remote host closed the connection) (~gordon1@citadel.niflheim.info) | 18:06 | |
| minute | it's weird though why this would happen only now | 18:06 |
| + gordon1 (~gordon1@citadel.niflheim.info) | 18:07 | |
| + simba (~simba@2a00:fac0:3521:a300:19b0:a38b:9afc:1e0a) | 18:10 | |
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| - ntcng (QUIT: Ping timeout: 273 seconds) (~enticeing@user/enticeing) | 18:23 | |
| minute | now testing a311d pocket | 18:31 |
| minute | ok that one just works, phew | 18:41 |
| josch | minute: in the past when this happned i also was unable to find out *why* it is required to do this manually | 18:44 |
| + enticeing (~enticeing@user/enticeing) | 18:45 | |
| minute | josch: i merged !195 btw | 18:45 |
| minute | so we're in a new era now! | 18:46 |
| josch | wow, nice! | 18:46 |
| josch | yes we are -- lets see what problems we run into | 18:46 |
| josch | if all this does is making your life easier, minute, then i'm already happy so don't hesitate to tell me if there is something which needs fixing to improve this | 18:47 |
| minute | josch: yes this definitely makes my life easier, and i guess also that of other people wanting to port the patches to other kernels etc | 18:48 |
| minute | josch: btw did i do this correctly? https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/commit/6458f54685611c0f5cc5519dce53a6d3e8b99313 | 18:48 |
| svp | just saw the september update, good stuff. can't wait for my pocket to exist in my mailbox at some point | 18:51 |
| - chrcav (QUIT: Quit: leaving) (~chrcav@user/chrcav) | 18:53 | |
| josch | minute: yes, looks okay! | 19:01 |
| josch | good that this was figured out by you :) | 19:02 |
| josch | i cannot wait for desktop reform :D | 19:02 |
| josch | my MM Board Reform must go, it is covered in a layer of dust :D | 19:03 |
| josch | it turns out that kodi has some hardware accelerated video playback so even h265 playback works on A311D in 1080p without stressing the cpu | 19:03 |
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| minute | josch: oh yeah @ desktop :D | 19:39 |
| minute | (i mean, station) | 19:39 |
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| josch | oh no indeed XD | 20:15 |
| josch | MNT Station | 20:15 |
| josch | it'll not even become a desktop in my case but house our media center | 20:16 |
| minute | very nice! | 20:16 |
| minute | josch: which color? | 20:16 |
| josch | petrol of course :) | 20:21 |
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| josch | we painted our wall with this color last year: https://www.obi.de/p/7662448/obi-design-color-1-l-karibik | 20:23 |
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| habasud | minute - Thx for whitelisting me on source.mnt.re. It worked... | 20:44 |
| chorc | looks like OpenBSD 8.0 ships some hibernate support for arm64, anyone on -current tried it on MNT hardware? | 20:45 |
| minute | chorc: nope, but would be very interesting of course | 21:15 |
| minute | habasud: cool! | 21:15 |
| minute | josch: hehe @ petrol | 21:15 |
| minute | i revived the first qcs8550 d-1 prototype today and have it in a pocket reform now from which i'm typing | 21:15 |
| minute | pocket feels impossibly fast with it :D | 21:16 |
| josch | the pocket feels most useful with an external display attached i feel. On my rk3588 classic reform i have a 1080p video, factorio and 6 hour CI builds of some software i maintain running at the same time -- i would not run this on the pocket simply because of its small screen and keyboard even though it is of course just as fast | 21:20 |
| josch | (ram is only 30% utilized even though i "only" have the 16 GB version) | 21:21 |
| lidstah | josch: I'm wondering if it's purely subjective here, but I've always been quite surprised by RAM consumption on ARM devices. I toyed around with the raspi4 before using it for kodi and even with only 4GB RAM, and I was surprised by the desktop experience compared to a 4GB x86 | 21:24 |
| josch | yes, for kodi the 3.6 gb ram of a311d are more than plenty | 21:25 |
| lidstah | indeed, it does the job here quite well. | 21:25 |
| lidstah | (and hi all :)) | 21:27 |
| lidstah | (wow, Tor lag is not joking tonight : | 21:27 |
| lidstah | ~12s | 21:27 |
| vagrantc | ACTION is spoiled by the 32GB ram rk3588 on the mnt/reform :) | 21:29 |
| lidstah | vagrantc: I hesitated between the 16GB and 32GB versions here, went the 16GB way because I didn't intend to run VMs (homelab does this) or really RAM intensive workloads. Still surprised of how versatile it is. | 21:33 |
| chorc | minute: I'll give it a shot in couple of weeks | 21:35 |
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| vagrantc | lidstah: i dream of running VMs on it, but mostly just leverage it for /tmp on tmpfs with some disk intensive builds that use /tmp a lot | 21:54 |
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| josch | lidstah: qemu now has memory ballooning so ram use is much less of an issue these days | 22:18 |
| josch | i'm doing work for gnu/hurd and because that only works on x86 i am running qemu VMs all the time | 22:18 |
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| cararemixed | c | 23:21 |
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| lidstah | josch: not yet tried running VMs on the reform... Might be a week end fun project :) | 23:32 |
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| josch | lidstah: afaik all SoMs support kvm, so you get native speed if the guest is also arm64 | 23:40 |
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