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minutejosch: ok, i'm finally ready to check out ~that~ MR (reform-debian-packages)17:13
josch\o/17:13
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minutei'm cloning https://source.mnt.re/josch/linux17:25
minutethe default branch i'm on is mnt-v7.1.717:26
minutei'm checking out mnt-v7.2.617:28
minuteok, gonna do a quick test of the kernel from https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines/6941/ on my pocket reform17:36
minutewell, i'd like to, but i can't login to gnome on my pocket. (just goes back to gdm). awesome17:39
minutesway works, of course17:39
minuteweird, running gnome-shell in the console without gdm works17:46
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minutedoing a full-upgrade first and work on the 8550 next in the meantime...17:55
minuteTIL > mutter --wayland --devkit17:56
minute(needs mutter-dev-bin)17:57
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minutehttps://minute.social/secret-room/20260930-qcs8550-gnome-fail.txt18:09
joschminute: that's with the new kernel 7.2 from the pipeline above and doesn't happen with 7.1? Is this on a fresh system image or on your live system?18:17
minuteno no18:18
minuteboth my computers are broken18:18
minutethe next with 8550 is broken because i installed mesa from git i think18:18
minutei get a crash in src/mesa/state_tracker/st_draw.c:13018:19
minutealso when running firefox on sway for example18:19
minutebut on pocket reform, gnome doesn't work anymore on 7.1, i started a lengthy full-upgrade and will check again18:19
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minuteok, gnome works again on pocket, i think it was just an incomplete apt upgrade last time18:23
minuteso now i can install the kernel 7.2 from the MR18:24
minutegetting an error at the end: dpkg: error processing package flash-kernel (--configure):18:29
minuteold flash-kernel package postinst maintainer script subprocess failed with exit status 118:29
minuteErrors were encountered while processing: flash-kernel18:29
minutejosch: any idea which script that could be?18:30
minutejosch: full log if useful https://minute.social/secret-room/20260930-install-72.txt18:31
joschminute: did you by any chance upgrade to 7.2 without upgrading flash-kernel from the MNT Debian repo?18:32
joschminute: yes, you still have flash-kernel from build reform20260806T212135Z18:33
jahI did leave my pocket reform untouch for a while and it was not turned-off so it did discharge completely, could that cause any issue? I guess I should just leave it charging for a while and then it should be fine?18:33
minutejosch: ah, wasn't really aware of flash-kernel issues, lets see18:34
joschminute: what you see is what i reported as bug #1148115 two weeks ago. I uploaded a fix to reform-debian-packages which should be part of your pipeline18:35
minutejosch: i mean, i did a full-upgrade...18:35
joschminute: a lot of text about that topic here: https://community.mnt.re/t/update-error-novice-asking-advice/4668/318:35
minutejosch: ah, i did a full-upgrade before i put in that reform-debian-package alternative repo18:35
minuteinstalling new flash-kernel now18:36
joschnice, let me know if that fixed it18:36
minutejosch: in any case, 7.2 boots succesfully, but i think it's missing some important fixes for analogix-dp from me18:36
minutebecause the ghost edp display is back18:36
minutemaybe a good opportunity to see if i can work with the new git-based workflow?18:37
joschminute: i think there is something about that in irc history -- stephano ported the patch stack a few weeks ago18:37
minutemhm18:39
minutewell, i guess i can look at the state of the git branch now18:39
minutehmm, there are also some differences in panel-mnt-pocket-reform.c18:44
minuteah, i see, that tracks a recent change in the jdi driver18:47
minutenow using panel-jdi-lt070me05000.c18:47
minutesorry, paste error18:47
minutei meant, now using devm_drm_panel_alloc18:48
minuteso the port of panel-mnt-pocket-reform.c should be fine.18:48
minuteah, most of my patch for analogix_dp_core.c is missing18:52
minuteok, that'll be fun to port...18:54
joschminute: is doing that work any better for you now that the changes are in git commits and not in patch files?19:05
vagrantcACTION needs to figure out how to use the git/patch system19:07
joschvagrantc: reach out if you run into problems because any issues you run into are candidates for things we should document19:07
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minutejosch: lets see, i think it's better yeah. i still don't know how to make a test build, for example19:29
loondoes the rk3588 board for the reform next support 4k60 over either hdmi or dp?19:35
loonso if e.g. I set up a mediacenter using an mnt station, would it be capable of 4k60?19:36
loonI have a radxa rock 5b+ and only the vendor distro seems to support 4k60, the armbian distros only manage 1080p60 / 4k3019:36
minuteloon: yes, over hdmi it can do that19:41
joschminute: you mean how you do a test build on the MNT gitlab?19:42
minutejosch: yeah, what's the new way for doing that, i have a branch mnt-v7.2.6-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp where i'm finishing the port of my analogix-dp changes19:42
minutejosch: how to test the changes?19:42
joschminute: go to https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines/new and put mnt-v7.2.6-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp for the value of linux_branch19:43
joschminute: you didn't push your changes to https://source.mnt.re/josch/linux though it seems?19:48
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loonminute: thank you :)19:52
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minutejosch: i'm pushing now, thanks19:56
joschminute: something else for you to do would be to move josch/linux into reform/linux19:57
minutejosch: you also had a way to do a minimal/quick kernel build locally?19:57
minutejosch: ah. i think moving is broken in gitlab, but i can try. we original had linux-dev for this19:57
minuteoh, it worked19:58
minutehttps://source.mnt.re/reform/linux19:58
joschnice, then let me adjust the MR to use that instead of josch/linux20:01
joschminute: the quick kernel builds happen in the pipeline of reform/linux itself20:01
minuteoh :020:02
joschthe downside is, that that's just the deb building of upstream kernel20:03
joschfor example in this case it would not also build the fixed flash-kernel version for 7.220:03
minuteok, but why is it faster?20:03
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joschbecause it's not using the debian kernel config20:04
minuteoh, i wonder why the debian kernel config is so much bigger20:04
joschbecause it tries to support everything20:04
joschit's supposed to be one kernel for all devices20:04
minuteinteresting20:05
joschthe kernel config for the gitlab pipeline for reform/linux is here: https://source.mnt.re/josch/linux-ci20:05
joschthat'd be another repo to move into the reform namespace20:05
minuteok, build didn't work20:05
minutethanks, will do that move right now?20:06
joschif you do the move right now, then i'll adjust the paths right now as well20:06
minutedone https://source.mnt.re/reform/linux-ci20:06
minutecool cool20:06
minutelooks like build fails because of drivers/gpu/drm/bridge/cadence/cdns-* stuff. sounds like imx?20:07
joschminute: do you have a log?20:07
minuteah no, it has earlier errors because of my stuff :320:07
minutehttps://source.mnt.re/reform/linux/-/jobs/2452620:07
joschthe cdns stuff is just warnings, no?20:07
minutecould very well be yes. they look pretty fishy though20:09
minutei made myself a build.sh based on https://source.mnt.re/reform/linux-ci/-/blob/main/gitlab-ci.yml?ref_type=heads20:09
joschpaths in reform/linux-ci are fixed20:10
minutethx20:10
joschminute: you could put that build.sh into linux-ci and then call it from gitlab-ci.yml to reduce code duplication20:10
minutehmmmm > dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: unmet build dependencies: libssl-dev20:12
minutebut > libssl-dev is already the newest version (3.6.4-1)20:12
joschi don't see it -- which pipeline is that?20:12
minutethat's locally on my pc20:13
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minutejosch: i tried this http://minute.social/secret-room/build.sh.txt20:13
joschsorry, i have to bring the baby to bed (doesn't matter how sick you are... :/ )20:14
minutejosch: aw20:14
joschback in maybe an hour or so20:14
minuteno rush!20:14
minuteah, i need to sudo apt install libssl-dev:arm6420:19
minuteok, make runs now :320:20
minuteah, simple copypaste error in the code where a } was forgotten20:26
minuteok, a .deb fell out!20:59
minutei wonder if that'll just work on my pocket :020:59
minutepocket still boots, but i have doubts that it's actually that new kernel21:02
minuteyeah, simply installing the kernel package doesn't register it in extlinux.conf i guess :D21:03
minuteoh it does, it's just sorted lower21:04
minutelolwat, cryptsetup no longer accepts my pw21:07
minuteand the screen rotation is wrong21:08
svpremind me, did kbv3 work with i.mx uboot or was it only the v2 that did?21:09
minuteah, the problem is device-mapper doesn't know the crypt target type on this kernel build21:09
minutesvp: the old one did, but in the meantime kbdv4 with the latest firmware should work again21:10
minutesvp: stephano recently contributed a fix for boot-protocol for the pocket kbd, and i ported that to the reform kbdv421:10
svpooooh? interesting... i'll have to check that out!21:10
svp...too bad the connectors changed, now i have to undo both sides, but it may be worth21:10
minutelmao > CONFIG_DM_CRYPT is not set21:13
minutecc josch 21:13
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svpminute: is my ip blacklisted by any chance? cant access source.mnt.re on my home network but over mobile networks it seems fine21:22
minutesvp: which is your ip?21:22
svp79.57.105.25221:22
minutesvp: yes, it was on the blocklist, removed now21:23
svpouch. wonder why that happened...21:23
minutegrepping the logs21:23
minutestrange > 79.57.105.252 - - [11/Sep/2026:11:05:52 +0200] "GET /reform/reform-boundary-uboot/-/blob/master/board/boundary/nitrogen8m_som/nitrogen8m_som.c HTTP/1.1" 200 11464 "http://www.google.com" "facebookexternalhit/1.1 (+http://www.facebook.com/externalhit_uatext.php)" 3.5321:24
svpthat is... very strange. huh.21:25
^alexperhaps you have been infested with a residential proxy21:25
minutesvp: immediately before that, a hit by Cheogram/2.19.0-6+free 21:26
svpthat somewhat checks out because cheogram is my xmpp client and it mightve previewed some link21:26
minuteah! maybe they spoof facebookexternal-hit?21:27
svpi'll have to investigate21:28
^alexit's the referer spoofing that makes us sus >.>21:28
minutethat too21:30
minuteis that app open source?21:30
^alexlooks to be21:30
minutefwiw i have now removed the "facebook" string from my blocking script, i don't think that this caused a lot of load before21:30
joschminute: feel free to adjust the config however your ideal "minimal" config is supposed to look like for you :)21:31
minutejosch: ok :321:31
minutethat .deb kernel boots faster hm21:32
minuteok nice, with CONFIG_DM_CRYPT enabled i can boot all the way21:32
svprunning a grep -i facebook -r doesnt turn up much... thats concerning21:33
minutehmm21:34
^alexcould it be a library?21:34
svpi have no clue, but if it happens again feel free to quarantine me again21:35
minutesvp: hmm i've removed the blocking of "facebook" already, but feel free to ping me when i should check the logs. do you have a webserver where you can see logs? then you could check what happens if you post a link to it in that app21:39
minutemeanwhile, USB-C displayport stuff works again with 7.2, buuut funnily it now shows 2 identical external monitors when i connect 1.21:40
svpi'll have to run some tests i suppose. sorry about the trouble!21:40
minuteno problem!21:41
minutei like a good mystery :D21:42
minutejosch: the workflow with make bindep-pkg is awesome21:42
minuteand we could make it even awesomer by turning off a lot of SoCs that we don't support :321:43
loonminute: can you check to see why 72.86.187.171 was blocked?21:43
loonand, if you're feeling kind, unblock :)21:43
minuteloon: of course21:44
loonthank you :)21:44
minuteloon: it's not in the logs! but it was in the blocklist. so it must have been a longer while ago21:44
loonokay, thank you for removing it :) no idea what I could've done to trigger it21:45
minuteloon: tell me if it happens again, then i can check21:46
loonwill do!21:46
joschminute: wonderful! glad you like it :)21:55
minutejosch: ok, trying a packages build from my reform/linux branch https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/pipelines/695822:02
minutei'll also need to port these, but one thing after the other... https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/187/commits22:03
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minutejosch: hmm curious https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/24535#L181522:33
minute+ git -C ./linux-stable.git merge-base --is-ancestor v7.2.6-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp HEAD22:33
minutefatal: Not a valid object name v7.2.6-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp22:33
svpbeen thinking, itd be nice to have a system image flavor with everything one needs to tinker with the sources from the getgo without connecting to the 'net...22:34
minutejosch: ah, silly me, just typo22:35
joschminute: it seems you named a branch mnt-v7.2.6-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp?22:36
joschminute: branches in that repo are named mnt-${STABLEVER}22:36
minutejosch: yes22:36
joschbut there is no stable tag named v7.2.6-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp22:36
minutejosch: i don't know what a stable tag is22:36
joschtag from the stable upstream git repo22:36
joschyou can name your branches any way you want but only name them mnt-vXXXX if you are rebasing the patch stack22:37
minutejosch: ah!22:37
joschif you want just some random custom branches, don't make it start with mnt-v...22:37
joschbecause if you do, the branch name will be considered for automatic branch selection22:37
minutejosch: got it! didn't know there were reserved strings :D22:39
minutei now renamed the branch to 726-rk3588-restore-usbc-edp22:40
svphmm, download-fw.sh doesnt use the latest commits, and building with the latest commits greets me with a Failed to get keyboard state from device 1209:6d02 in uboot22:41
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sigridi think maybe there isn't enough data on reforms dropping from the waste level down on concrete so I now have one data point22:57
sigridone corner scratched to shits, plastic bottom has both corners broken where the screws are and ALL trackpoint buttons have their small inserts (to attach to buttons) broken22:58
kfxaugh fuck22:59
sigridthis is a classic reform and I have no clue what is up with trackpoiny buttons specificallu22:59
joschF22:59
kfxI had to buy dental picks to get the buttons out22:59
sigridotherwise everything works as before22:59
kfxthose buttons are not resin-printd like the others, its' some other more fragile process22:59
sigridyeah... i will have to find replacements :)23:00
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sigridall in all i think it was more painful to watch it fall rather than the damage itself23:02
joschit seems concrete is indeed the final endboss for the brutalist design :/23:03
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