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| sknebel | https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-446 | 17:20 |
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| spew | minute: could you please unblock another ip address for me? | 17:37 |
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| mhoye | So, it looks like my keyboard is just no responding to hails at all. I can turn on the Reform, the UART side works, but I haven't been able to get the OS to see the keyboard via USB at all, internal or usb-c external. | 18:06 |
| mhoye | There's no visible physical damage to it - I thought something might have come off the board but the always-excellent docs tell me that's a standalone-kbd-only part. | 18:08 |
| mhoye | Anyone have any suggestions for next steps? | 18:10 |
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| mhoye | (Or, where do I order the replacement part...) | 18:38 |
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| mhoye | ... huh. Get this: plugging the keyboard in via the UART plug and an external usb cable, works. And I can see and reflash it | 19:15 |
| mhoye | Bonkers, let's see if it works after a reboot. | 19:15 |
| mhoye | ... and it does. What a bizzare series of events. | 19:17 |
| minute | spew: which ip? | 19:21 |
| minute | sknebel: oh that's awesome, native arm64 ports coming in? :333 | 19:23 |
| minute | mhoye: is this an older keyboard model with white-only backlight? | 19:23 |
| svp | sometimes, i pine for a 4.0 with the weird 2.0 layout, but alas | 19:25 |
| mhoye | minute: yeah! And it looks like I'm back somehow? | 19:25 |
| minute | mhoye: ok so then it has one of the strange atmegas that i bought during the chip crisis, that can sometimes lose their flash programming for unknown reasons | 19:26 |
| minute | mhoye: covid-19 chip crisis | 19:27 |
| minute | iirc the part number ends in -RC | 19:27 |
| mhoye | Hah! That is wild. I mean, I believe you but it's wild. | 19:27 |
| mhoye | svp: I think minute hit on a bit of genius with the gen1 layout | 19:27 |
| minute | mhoye: svp: funny that you would say that! i got a lot of flak for it | 19:28 |
| minute | i guess it's a polarizing layout | 19:28 |
| svp | i personally dont mind it, i can get keycaps for it and more button also means more better! | 19:28 |
| mhoye | Regular People: could I have something that is exactly what I already have except better in some way you can tell me how to understand. | 19:29 |
| mhoye | Actual 1stGen Unproven Tech Adopters: Gimme the weird shit. | 19:30 |
| minute | haha yes | 19:30 |
| svp | the moment i get some money shower i have ready a custom keycap set waiting for me to bite on FK | 19:30 |
| minute | oh neat | 19:31 |
| minute | one day i'd like a custom design that's more like our pocket reform keycaps | 19:31 |
| mhoye | svp: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mhoye/55428806858/in/dateposted/ | 19:34 |
| svp | i still have a 3.0 around that i whip out when i need a keyboard real quick but dont feel like getting my apple g4 usb keyboard (personal favorite) | 19:34 |
| svp | er, *japanese apple g4 keyboard. it's different because for some reason in japan they swap caps and ctrl | 19:36 |
| svp | not that i'm complaining! | 19:36 |
| josch | sknebel: wooooah | 19:38 |
| josch | "CPU performance on native ARM64 is about 28% faster than x86 running via box64" | 19:38 |
| josch | oooh it's not much of a difference -- that explains why factorio worked so well for me | 19:39 |
| minute | nice nice | 19:39 |
| josch | "Standalone Factorio for ARM64 Linux is available on our website, including the headless version" | 19:39 |
| josch | well then... i'll be afk for a bit! | 19:39 |
| svp | i've actually been wondering if anyone's ever tried doing something like a status display for the keyboard (eg. caps/num/scroll "leds", disk access, network, etc) | 19:40 |
| spew | minute: I pm'd you | 19:46 |
| spew | thank you | 19:46 |
| minute | svp: i think vkoskiv did something in that direction? | 19:51 |
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| mhoye | svp: I'd love to hear more. I've got some burnin on that screen and need a screensaver | 20:18 |
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| lidstah | @josch │ well then... i'll be afk for a bit! << hehe, the Factorio effect :) | 21:22 |
| lidstah | (and hi all!) | 21:23 |
| lidstah | (one quite similar game I'd like to see packaged for arm64 is Mindustry - although it should build from source...) | 21:25 |
| lidstah | but... but... it's in Java | 21:26 |
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| josch | lidstah: factorio_linux-arm64_2.1.19.tar.xz yeeees | 22:08 |
| lidstah | reading the doc, launching a build, it fails, searching issues, realizing that there's a flatpak package, installing it, realizing it's broken due to the exact same error (missing lib, developed by Mindustry's main dev), reading issues both on flathub github issues and said lib issues, admitting I already work with too much java stuff (looking at you, solr and zookeeper) at work, flip table | 22:10 |
| lidstah | josch: ehhe, how does it run on the reform? | 22:10 |
| lidstah | I've always resisted the temptation to buy it, I've seen what factorio did to some friends xD | 22:11 |
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| Esi | yeah i was kind of surprised mindustry didn't run even though it had a flatpak. i would had thought there should be some kind of warnings to let people know if something isn't supported on ARM 🤔 | 22:50 |
| lidstah | Esi: yeah, it should work by building the Arc library (https://github.com/Anuken/Arc) but if I understand correctly, it needs openjdk-17-jdk and gradle to build properly, and I'm a bit too tired (had a really good, but exhausting, week) to play around with envvars and multiple openjdk versions (openjdk-25-{jdk,jre} installed here (and build fails because some stuff which was acceptable with | 23:06 |
| lidstah | openjdk-17 is not acceptable nowadays with openjdk-25) | 23:06 |
| lidstah | that the moment I flipped the table xD | 23:07 |
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| + siviq (~siviq@user/siviq) | 23:13 | |
| lidstah | right now I'm playing around with Exult and Ultima VII (the black gate, I don't have the other extensions), it's running great on the reform. Plus there's a smooth scrolling option that's way easier on the eyes than the original 1 FPS movement/scrolling :) | 23:14 |
| josch | lidstah: my factory is still tiny so still 60 fps ;) | 23:19 |
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| josch | lidstah: according to their benchmarks, my factory can now be 30% larger than before :D | 23:39 |
| lidstah | josch: :D yeah, I'm wondering how it'll cope fps-wise endgame | 23:39 |
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| josch | i launched a rocket without problems but my factory was small -- "end game" means different things for different people :) | 23:40 |
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| josch | i want to try space age this time | 23:41 |
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