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| josch | Esi: then you are using barebox. uboot cannot currently init the display itself. If you are on 20260808, try upgrading to 20260819 | 00:12 |
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| Esi | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/blCoF45S/1000065708.jpg | 01:12 |
| Esi | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YNPM7I9A/1000065703.jpg | 01:12 |
| Esi | btw this feels slightly different than last time. now sometimes the whole screen renders but it's still glitchy in one way on the upper half and gltichy another way on the lower half | 01:13 |
| Esi | upgraded the firmware, glitches feel more "stable" now as seen in first photo. (latter photo is I think before firmware upgrade) | 01:15 |
| Esi | also upgraded via apt as much as possible in case if there was something there that I missed | 01:15 |
| Esi | sadly, I can't seem to get a non glitchy display at all now. I've tried turning it off and on several times, restarted, etc... Couple of days ago I could get a good screen occasionally especially after a restart but now it's just always like this. | 01:16 |
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| minute | Esi: ok so two things: 1. this is probably caused by barebox not being able to reset the display yet, so i recommend doing reform-flash-bootloader emmc 2. once the glitch shows up and you stay in that mode for a while, traces of it will persist for a few minutes (or longer, slowly going away) so it looks like in the first picture you just sent | 01:26 |
| minute | Esi: with uboot restored i think you shouldn't encounter this glitch anymore | 01:26 |
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| Esi | ok, gonna try that | 01:28 |
| Esi | "reform-flash-bootloader emmc 2", is this correct? or is the 2 a mistype? | 01:29 |
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| Esi | ok, I did "sudo eform-flash-bootloader emmc". Seems to have worked. Screen glitches are still there although they might be slightly less pronounced. hard to tell | 01:43 |
| Esi | will get back to this tomorrow morning. thanks for the help <3 | 01:43 |
| minute | Esi: cool! the display will need some time to get back to normal | 01:49 |
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| josch | i just bought the first hdmi monitor in my life | 10:59 |
| josch | i can finally check whether hdmi works on my MNT machines \o/ | 10:59 |
| josch | it supposedly also accepts video via usb-c dp but i cannot test yet -- i have to by the new mainboard for the pocket first :) | 11:00 |
| josch | i just tested it and it just works out-of-the-box including audio :) | 11:00 |
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| Esi | Nice | 11:18 |
| Esi | btw this little rubbery object was sitting on the batteries when I opened the mnt pocket underside for the first time. is this supposed to be somewhere in the Pocket or did smneone just accidentally leave it there while assembling? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cd9LQpsV/1000064923.jpg | 11:20 |
| Esi | Seems like a cap/protector for a cable or something similar | 11:21 |
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| Esi | ok feels like the display glitches are getting better slowly. Less visible this morning. *crosses fingers* | 11:28 |
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| minute | Esi: strange @ that cap, probably accidental yes. at least it's not used in the pocket. looks like a cap for protecting an open wire | 11:40 |
| minute | josch: yaaay the dawn of a new era @ hdmi, awesome! | 11:41 |
| minute | josch: which model is it? | 11:41 |
| Esi | haha yeah i suspected it was accidental. a nice souvenir from MNT | 11:42 |
| Esi | ok screen glitches are barely visible now unless I really look for them. | 11:43 |
| rick_ | josch its still so strange to read that you never had an hdmi display before.. did you always work only with the small screen of the pocket, or do you have an different display? | 11:43 |
| rick_ | josch don't get me wrong.. pockets screen is nice for traviling/events.. but on my desk i want to connect it to sth bigger XD | 11:43 |
| josch | minute: i got an azorpa G1 second hand from somebody off kleinanzeigen. It is a 15.4" portable monitor with 1920x1080 and 144Hz refresh rate. I needed a portable monitor because we live in a tiny flat and I don't have a "desk" so I need to be able to pack it up and store it somewhere when I don't use it. :D | 11:46 |
| josch | rick_: technically i have access to hdmi "displays" but that'd be the big projectors in the lecture hall :D | 11:47 |
| minute | Esi: ok great that it is recovering | 11:47 |
| josch | So yes, i'm using the small screen of the pocket. | 11:47 |
| josch | rick_: the thing is that without a desk I cannot have "on my desk" :D | 11:48 |
| minute | Esi: greta confirms the cap is from molex antenna in their shipping state. i knew this too but couldn't put my finger on it | 11:48 |
| minute | josch: ahh portable, cool! | 11:48 |
| rick_ | josch ahh your answer to minute explains a lot.. pheww and always working with that ^^v respect | 11:49 |
| Esi | I don't mind the small screen of the pocket. Never connected it to anything larger. I did reduce the scaling a bit though | 11:49 |
| minute | i have to say i did do substantial coding on the pocket before :D it was always a wow experience to go back to a bigger computer later, but still | 11:49 |
| josch | rick_: not really, for actually doing "work" I need a big keyboard so i do that on the classic reform -- pocket is for when i'm out and about | 11:49 |
| minute | Esi: yeah the scaling of 250% is a new bug | 11:50 |
| minute | wakest was looking into it a bit | 11:50 |
| Esi | My hands are taking a while to get used to such a small keyboard though. Lot of mistyping | 11:50 |
| minute | mutter changed something about how they calculate the default scale and made it worse | 11:50 |
| rick_ | josch ahh you also have a classic ^^ | 11:50 |
| Esi | Oh lol i just thought it was a peculiar UX choice. Haha | 11:50 |
| minute | (mutter = gnome compositor/wm) | 11:50 |
| minute | and also the mnt reform logo is too huge in gdm | 11:50 |
| rick_ | minute yeah i work on the pocket display on the go also.. but yeah same experince when i connect a bigger display again XD | 11:51 |
| minute | i want to replace it by just mnt logo | 11:51 |
| josch | rick_: not just one ;) https://reform.debian.net/Pics/all.jpg | 11:51 |
| Esi | Yeah the logo in gdm obscures "wrong password" text | 11:51 |
| minute | josch: such a cool family picture | 11:51 |
| rick_ | thats also why i'm hyped for mb2.0. currently i can only drive one of my two displays :D | 11:52 |
| josch | they are all doing things right now because i'm trying to get imx8m+ to work in the classic | 11:52 |
| rick_ | josch ohh nice, i'm envious... | 11:52 |
| Esi | Pocket says hi from a café at the University of Iceland https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oOYgXR4G/1000065735.jpg | 11:53 |
| josch | Esi: oooh iceland, sweet! Still a bit of an effect on your display... | 11:53 |
| rick_ | Esi woah nice :3 | 11:55 |
| rick_ | since we are posting some pics.. pocket in train: https://mediaproxy.n0id.space/media/031c7b0799501bd9627263ad48f586f04581c4e37a66ef83cf3267b2f5e73c9c.jpg | 11:56 |
| Esi | Yeah little bit effect. Lot better than yesterday | 11:56 |
| Esi | Nice | 11:56 |
| rick_ | and pocket at froscon last week :3 https://mediaproxy.n0id.space/media/831fed0ccf2bd7c4a9442c63f9fed5f25c6b359cd7a59d8656c1f08612927760.jpg | 11:56 |
| josch | rick_: hahaha that's me every day in the RE20 XD | 11:57 |
| rick_ | but i really need to put in some bigger batteries.. charged it with my powerbank a few times at froscon XD | 11:57 |
| orva | Esi: Just a word of caution: after getting used to ortholinear keyboards it can be very difficult to use anything else | 11:57 |
| rick_ | <3 | 11:57 |
| josch | rick_: do you have an LTE modem installed? | 11:57 |
| rick_ | no, wifi hotspot from my phone.. works well enough | 11:58 |
| rick_ | also i don | 11:58 |
| rick_ | t need an extra data plan | 11:58 |
| josch | right, in my case i don't have a smartphone so the "data plan" is in my "smart phone" which is the pocket :) | 11:58 |
| rick_ | hahah yeah i want to use or well use my pocket like that also.. but i sadly still need a phone for trheema/signal and some other android apps.. which sucks... | 12:00 |
| rick_ | i actually play around a bit with postmarketOS and my phone XDD | 12:01 |
| josch | i read in the signal blog that signal is working on making the desktop app not require a smartphone anymore | 12:01 |
| rick_ | i hate android an its eco system... | 12:01 |
| josch | waydroid is working okay for some simple apps on my pocket | 12:01 |
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| Esi | orva i have used an ergodox since 2019 so I am already deep down in that hole. haha | 12:02 |
| rick_ | josch thats also sth i still wanna try | 12:06 |
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| josch | My use-case was to use mitmproxy to reverse-engineer some of these stupid apps which are actually just a few buttons for a REST api which i could as well run without android. Unfortunately, packaging the new mitmproxy for Debian requires first packaging tons of treesitter Rust crates and that is extremely challenging because of how Rust works... :/ | 12:14 |
| Esi | josch: would something like distrobox or toolbx help with that? | 12:16 |
| Esi | I am using distrobox a lot on my Pocket for such messy installs | 12:16 |
| Esi | although i have no idea what mitmproxy is | 12:16 |
| josch | a "messy install" is exactly what i want to avoid -- that's why i'm packaging things in Debian | 12:17 |
| Esi | haha good point | 12:17 |
| josch | the problem with mitmproxy and rust is this https://github.com/mitmproxy/mitmproxy/issues/7901#issuecomment-3405856947 | 12:17 |
| Esi | i dont have that skill so i just use distrobox to keep the mess away from my main system, haha | 12:17 |
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| MartiniMoe | does anyone here, by chance, know of a way to contact bpye? they used to be in this channel some months ago | 14:12 |
| minute | MartiniMoe: yes, direct message on the community forum (community.mnt.re) | 14:14 |
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| minute | josch: here's your alu case :D https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station | 23:20 |
| elb | it's gorgeous | 23:20 |
| josch | minute: you suggest i buy via crowdsupply than via shop.mntre.com? | 23:24 |
| minute | josch: haha well, if you ask like that... | 23:24 |
| minute | josch: mnt shop probably makes more sense for you, but it'll take a while until we can launch there. | 23:24 |
| josch | minute: does it make a difference for MNT where i order? | 23:26 |
| josch | ...is there space for "MNT Station Dual USB-C Expansion" in the classic reform case? :D | 23:27 |
| minute | josch: not sure @ space, but i've had that thought of course :D | 23:29 |
| minute | josch: well, for MNT it would be def. helpful if this little campaign raised some cash yeah | 23:29 |
| josch | minute: I placed my order! Thank you so much for making this! <3 | 23:32 |
| josch | "MNT Station Case (Petrol)" of course -- just painted the other wall in the same room in this color https://www.obi.de/p/7662448/obi-design-color-1-l-karibik :D | 23:35 |
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