2026-08-13.log

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loonlidstah: ooh, nice! I'm mostly looking (very far) into the future and thinking about using an mnt station for gaming and media center usecases, which should be "easy"™ given the progress made on the reform 200:30
loonlidstah: I disagree with angband being punishing, it's positively kind compared to nethack :P00:35
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lidstahloon: I have an old grudge with Angband's RNG :D (and I forgot, but the eclipse was quite a moment, first time in my life I saw one, even the ambient light at peak (96%) was eerie, not like when night falls, something else. Really interesting)02:14
Esi100% eclipse over here. but sadly extremely cloudy so i couldn't see the sun. But it essentially became night over here. it was quite the sight02:24
Esii've seen 2 partial solar eclipses before, but this one was quite something else even though I couldn't see it properly02:24
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minutejosch: cool, thanks for the bisect, that makes a lot of sense!02:33
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joschthank you, i verified that this fixes the problem and just pushed the change to reform-debian-packages11:28
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joschhuh... why does gdm3 once it was booted on LS1028A (successfully got into gnome) turn the screen off when I boot the same sd-card with RK3588?14:49
joschi wanted to follow up the last message with "and this kids, is why you *always* bring your usb uart adapter with you when travelling" and then, after opening it up and a few seconds of a blank stare I realized: this is mainboard 3.0!!! XD14:52
joschminute: related, i'm unable to read uart output from one reform when the other reform that it is connected to via usb-c is also connected to main power. Unless I *disconnect* the latter reform from power and let both run off battery I get garbled output like this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bef72ab414:56
joschI'm unable to figure out why the display switches off at the point where gdm3 is supposed to start. Does somebody see something in this journalctl output? https://mister-muffin.de/p/3PRr.txt15:02
joschminute: does MNT gitlab have problems again? I get timeouts when I want to download system images and job lists do not open in the browser15:23
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Esimy Trust  (20.000mAh 74wh: 5v, 3A, 15W out) powerbank doesn't seem to be able to charge the Pocket. Is there something I should be keeping in mind when choosing a powerbank? or is the selection of powerbanks that will work very limited?15:50
joschEsi: is this with the pocket reform? If yes, did you flash the new firmware?15:53
EsiI used the gnome firmware app to update the two firmwares available there if that's what you mean, then yes.15:53
Esiand yes, MNT Pocket Reform, RK358815:54
joschEsi: 6 days ago Lucie wrote: "ah it is likely that the battery stuff is due to all the pd rework. i'll check again with my powerbank today. maybe the following workaround could help: if you go to "console" in the oled menu, and then type (pdsink 1) and then enter, then (pdreset). this should force PD code to only be a sink and not source"15:55
joschminute: indeed there is no display output (just backlight) with imx8m+ in classic reform (as you recently feared). Here is the journalctl -b output of the latest system image I was able to download before MNT gitlab became unavailable: https://mister-muffin.de/p/YRb9.txt15:59
joschminute: and here a dmesg of kernel 7.1.3 with imx8m+ in classic reform: https://mister-muffin.de/p/X4la.txt16:00
joschdo you see anything funny? otherwise i guess i have to bisect :(16:01
Esijosch: thanks. tested that. writing "pdsink 1" just blinks the text, and then i have to manually delete it (i assume this is the norm that it doesn't clear the line?). "pdreset" then gives me (err stxn)16:07
Esihard to tell but yeah, it seems like the pocket might be charging my powerbank instead of the other way around. not 100% sure though16:09
amospallaEsi: in my experience, I've never been able to charge my Pocket with anything below 18W. Is this power bank usb A only o has usb-c connector too?16:12
amospallaMaybe Pocket needs power delivery, usb-c?16:12
Esiit's usb-c, but has usb a also16:13
Esii am using usb-c16:13
amospallaWhat voltages/current does it provide through usb-c?16:14
Esiaccording to the label, 5V=3A, 15W (out)16:16
amospallaIf it was a PD powerbank it should provide more voltages.16:17
amospallaNothing providing less than 18W through PD has been able to charge mine before.16:20
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Esiah ok16:29
joschEsi: you are including the parenthesis in what you write, yes?16:29
amospallaI searched for that powerbank, and if it is a Trust Primo 15W, I would say it does not have Power Delivery, I don't think this power bank can charge a Pocket.16:29
amospallaI have some PD charger that works with 9v * 2a = 18W, don't remember if 12v *1.5a works too.16:30
Esijosch: ah i wasn't sure so i tested both. no errors when i do with parenthesis at least. but no change in regards of charging16:31
Esii am guessing this charger is not beefy enough16:32
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minuteour gitlab is being DDoSed at the moment16:36
Esifuck :(16:36
andreas-eminute: Is it similar to this? https://codeberg.org/guix/maintenance/issues/11816:53
andreas-eIt is the first time that I hear about an AI download agent that announces itself as such.16:54
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minutei now blocked a lot of the internet from the server...17:11
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sigridmakes one think that maybe having a fake gitlab just for crawlers, serving absolute garbage slop instead of real code, would be nice17:22
sigridlet them learn the hard way17:22
minutehaha yes... autogenerated bizarre + complicated code17:22
minutebut with legit names... like "linux"17:22
sigridyes-yes, with fully generate git commits and so on17:23
sigrid*generated17:23
joschisn't iocaine doing that?17:25
sigridI wouldn't know17:26
sigridI guess iocaine could be used to generate somewhat believable code too? idk I don't see that17:29
minutejosch: sigrid: are you able to access source.mnt.re, and if not, can you tell me the first 1 or 2 bytes of your ip addresses?17:29
sigriddoesn't open. mine is 86.49.x.x17:30
minutethx, let me adjust17:31
minutesigrid: now?17:32
joschi get a timeout. I'm somewhere behind 81.27.x.x17:32
sigridworks now 17:33
minutejosch: should work now?17:33
joschcontent! \o/17:33
minutethe top 10 crawler traffic comes from 103, 102, 45, 105, 186, 41, 37, 190, 181, 15717:34
joschbmaptool is copying reform-system-imx8mp.img.gz right now -- seems to work17:34
joschminute: this is not the first time i'm stranded like this -- i'm going to download the six u-boot binary blobs and place them on reform.mister-muffin.de under the same paths as they can be found under on source.mnt.re. That way, reform-flash-bootloader could download them by just swapping out the DNS entry. Good idea?17:36
minutejosch: yes, i'm also considering mirroring all important binaries to a static server17:36
minutejosch: but please go ahead17:36
joschthank you!17:37
minutepeople on mastodon are teaching me a bit more about ASN-based blocking etc in DMs :317:41
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joschsweet :)17:50
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minutestrange, suddenly the big storm is over @ our gitlab, as if the operator of the fleet realized it's too hard to scrape19:18
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lidstahminute: ai scrapers at it again?19:52
minutelidstah: yeah probably19:54
minutelidstah: can you still access source.mnt.re in your browser?19:55
minutecould everyone here please check if they still have access? (except people who already told me before, today)19:55
minutei'm relaxing the firewall rules step by step19:55
fricklerno access from 62.224/1619:58
minutefrickler: thanks, now?19:58
bremner👍 from Canada, Eh19:59
minutenoice19:59
fricklerworking fine, could login, too. thx20:00
minutefrickler: thx!20:00
lidstahminute: works, login page (should make an account one day)20:06
lidstah(cooking here so there's some lag on my side :p)20:06
minutelidstah: bon appétit!20:07
joschminute: writing the script that does the mirroring made me realize that there is not yet a u-boot blob for MNT Station with RK3588 -- is it just the same as for mainboard 3.0 with RK3588?20:11
minutejosch: right now yep.20:15
joschoh, the non-dsi variant20:15
joschhrm... let me file a MR to do the renaming...20:16
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joschhttps://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-rk3588-uboot/-/merge_requests/1920:21
joschminute: could you please enable the CI runner for https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-rk3588-uboot20:23
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Esiloads for me fine. (don't have an account)20:47
Esi(source.mnt.re that is)20:48
lidstahminute: thanks :') (merci beaucoup!)20:50
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