| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~mjw@206.12.14.175) | 00:18 | |
| minute | appears to work, now ironically only barebox leaves the display in a bad state, but that should be fixable soon. with uboot it works fine | 00:40 |
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| minute | Esi: if you want to test, you can add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list : deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/23667/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 00:41 |
| minute | Esi: and then: sudo apt update; sudo apt install linux-image-mnt-reform-arm64 | 00:41 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@206.12.14.251) | 01:31 | |
| Esi | sadly, it seems like i am still getting that bug. let me double check though | 01:40 |
| Esi | confirmed. still getting halfscreen | 01:44 |
| Esi | also get some artifcats around the perimeters of the screen but I assumed that's related to the halfscreen problem? | 01:45 |
| Esi | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jZxsZ3Tc/irccloudcapture3255676448765081579.jpg | 01:45 |
| Esi | if I use the OLED screen to turn off and turn on the pocket I seem to be more likely to get halfscreen. restarting from the menu on the login screen feels like it is more likely to give me a functioning screen | 01:46 |
| minute | Esi: do you use barebox or uboot? | 01:49 |
| minute | Esi: and could you confirm your kernel version by giving me the output of: uname -a | 01:50 |
| minute | Esi: and yes, the artifacts that look like a vignette are the same issue | 01:50 |
| Esi | i use whatever is vanilla on my pocket (orderd in mid january) | 01:51 |
| minute | Esi: hmmm so you got it very recently. when turning it on, do you get a mnt logo with a rainbow bar in the top right? | 01:52 |
| minute | Esi: and a countdown offering to interrupt boot | 01:52 |
| Esi | i got it this friday. | 01:52 |
| Esi | Linux nudla 7.1.7-mnt-reform-arm64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 7.1.7-1+reform20260809T210633Z (2026-08-09 aarch64 GNU/Linux | 01:53 |
| minute | thanks, correct kernel version confirmed | 01:53 |
| Esi | and yes, rainbow below mnt logo and countdown on boot | 01:53 |
| minute | Esi: ahhh ok very good, then you got barebox, and that is what is still causing the half screen issue | 01:54 |
| minute | because barebox doen't have that reset fix yet | 01:54 |
| Esi | ah ok | 01:54 |
| minute | if you're adventurous, you can do what i did on my pocket reform and replace it with our stock uboot: sudo reform-flash-uboot emmc | 01:55 |
| minute | that fixed the issue for me at least. you'll lose the rainbow logo + boot menu but i'll make sure that barebox gets the fix in the next days (probably tomorrow) | 01:55 |
| Esi | i am in no hurry at least. and I do like that rainbow logo :3 | 01:56 |
| minute | aw ok. in the meantime, if you blank and unblank the display, it should fix itself | 01:56 |
| Esi | PS: I do get the vignette effect sometimes even without the half screen issue. if that tells you anything new | 01:56 |
| minute | hmmm i think it's probably a residue | 01:57 |
| minute | normally the display takes a while to get back to fully normal after it encounters the half screen bug | 01:57 |
| minute | (even after reboot etc) | 01:57 |
| Esi | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GxAo0khr/1000048356.jpg | 01:57 |
| Esi | oh yeah true. I am starting to see if less and less now as time passes after boot | 01:58 |
| minute | Esi: thanks, yeah that's still residue which will disappear after a while | 01:58 |
| Esi | how do I blank/unblank the display? | 01:58 |
| minute | if you use gnome and enable screen blanking after 1 minute in the settings -> power | 01:58 |
| minute | gnome will turn off the display after 1 minute of sitting idle, then if you move the cursor or press a key it should come back and be "fixed" | 01:59 |
| minute | if you use sway you could make a shortcut for something like > output DSI-1 dpms off; output DSI-1 dpms on; | 01:59 |
| minute | (in a terminal this would be swaymsg output DSI-1 dpms off; swaymsg output DSI-1 dpms on | 02:00 |
| Esi | ah thank you | 02:01 |
| minute | ok, thanks a lot for testing & patience! i'm gonna catch some sleep, cya! | 02:02 |
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| Esi | ditto. thank you <3 g'night | 02:12 |
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| rick_ | Me prasing xfce a few days ago.. and now it turned into slopware.. | 11:08 |
| josch | rick_: oh no... source? | 11:10 |
| josch | ah okay, found it myself on https://slopscan.ava.pet/ | 11:16 |
| rick_ | josch ohh didn't know that site ^^ | 11:20 |
| rick_ | here is a fedi threat with a link to the blogpost: https://social.treehouse.systems/users/mgorny/statuses/117069596655842076 | 11:20 |
| Svp | good thing netbsd and ctwm will never betray me | 11:23 |
| josch | i'm currently doing stuff for hurd and am eagerly awaiting GNU's official statement on the topic... | 11:23 |
| josch | too bad hurd does not have arm64 support... :/ | 11:24 |
| - marty (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~marty@143.244.47.71) | 11:24 | |
| Svp | yet! | 11:24 |
| + marty (~marty@143.244.47.71) | 11:25 | |
| rick_ | well i think we can't really avoid that.. too many applications (and the linux kernel) already has slop in it.. but its still sad | 11:29 |
| Esi | xfce has slop now? :( | 11:44 |
| Svp | yeah we should return to osx tiger | 11:45 |
| rick_ | i got u new c64 ultimate.. but dunno if this has slop in it or not lol | 11:46 |
| Esi | My office has one computer. Imac g4 with os9 | 11:46 |
| Esi | loil | 11:48 |
| Svp | i dusted off my g4 cube yesterday and got 10.4 on it | 11:48 |
| ch | josch: but the site doesnt claim its slopware? | 13:06 |
| josch | ch: i'm not an xfce user -- i didn't investigate deeply | 13:07 |
| ch | josch: well... | 13:07 |
| josch | ch: i'm also still on linux and my hardware still contains a bunch of proprietary stuff that i also don't like, so oh well... | 13:07 |
| ch | josch: all possible, but slopscan doesnt say its slop in the first place. i think that site is super dangerous for exactly this reason | 13:08 |
| rick_ | ch but you can use my link from fedi i posted before, in the opening post is the link to the blog of the maintainer where they describe how and why thy use llms now | 13:12 |
| ch | yeah thats ok, but just linking to https://slopscan.ava.pet/ fails hard | 13:13 |
| josch | ch: agreed | 13:16 |
| minute | rick_: oh you already got the new c64? how is it? | 13:17 |
| minute | josch: what about openbsd? :D we didn't really look into a recent contributor's display driver work yet for the classic reform | 13:19 |
| minute | ok, i'll now do a quick attempt to port stephano's lpc/sc contribution for pocket panel reset in barebox for the new mntsc protocol... | 13:19 |
| josch | minute: i'm not attached to linux -- if something else works well enough i'd like to try it out :) | 13:20 |
| minute | openbsd misses panthor of course | 13:20 |
| rick_ | minute really interesting. but i cant say much how it compares to the original one.. first time touching a c64 XD | 13:28 |
| rick_ | i always wanted one thou.. and is i saw that they rebuild them. i had to buy it | 13:29 |
| rick_ | also transparent cases are awesome XD | 13:29 |
| minute | hmmm, gitlab cherry-pick changes the commit author https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-barebox/-/merge_requests/5/diffs?commit_id=b99a95235a94a90e453b5da66ed381495935d76f | 13:30 |
| minute | rick_: ohh ok | 13:30 |
| rick_ | but its quite intresing.. so different compared to modern unix system ^^ | 13:31 |
| rick_ | learning stuff you don't know/your not used too is awesome, i love that experience :3 | 13:33 |
| minute | merged 9 of stephano's barebox fixes, for the other 7 i'll ask for some more explanation because some of them are above my pay grade (mmu stuff) https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-barebox/-/merge_requests/6/commits | 14:09 |
| Esi | when it comes to testing it will I need to add a different repo than yesterday? | 14:16 |
| minute | Esi: ah for barebox no, when i'm ready i'll give you a link to download the binary + a command for flashing it | 14:19 |
| Esi | roger! sounds good | 14:20 |
| rick_ | btw can i tell the power controller from os side to stop charge the batteries? like i can read battery stats, change keyboard leds from os level.. but would be this also possible for the charging? i think about extending the powerdaemon to stop charing the batteries at 80% | 15:14 |
| minute | rick_: it could be done as a new feature yeah, at least with mntsc this kind of stuff is easier in theory | 15:16 |
| rick_ | minute so this needs to be added to the sc firmware frist? cause like for the keyboard i can just send 'xLRGB\x00\xFF\x00' from the the os to change the color. this is what i mean | 15:24 |
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| minute | rick_: yes, there are a lot of exposed commands/functions now but controlling the max charge isn't implemented yet in the fw | 16:15 |
| rick_ | ah bummers, thanks for the info thou! | 16:26 |
| minute | just managed to set the backlight in barebox via spi command -> mntsc, nice | 17:12 |
| josch | minute: I'm able to reproduce this error on my rk3588-dsi classic reform: https://community.mnt.re/t/failed-to-start-reform-hw-setup-service-error/4542 | 17:15 |
| josch | But it doesn't happen on every boot and when I check, rk3588wm8960 exists as a device for aplay. So I guess this might just be reform-hw-setup running too early? Do you think I should just add some retry code to the script and call it a day? | 17:16 |
| minute | josch: uff, is this about old audio init code in reform-hw-setup? we should probably replace that with a UCM file | 17:17 |
| minute | i'm making a TODO for cleaning up that mess | 17:20 |
| josch | minute: thank you! | 17:20 |
| minute | josch: in the meantime, i suggest not to fail on that error, just ignore it | 17:22 |
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| - jogu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~jogu@user/jogu) | 19:11 | |
| minute | ok i solved the final cause of half-screen glitchiness, when linux activates the display after barebox activated it before... | 19:44 |
| minute | this didn't actually need any change to barebox | 19:44 |
| grimmware | man when I get my mobo 2 I'm essentially going to be using a whole new computer with all the changes you've made! | 19:48 |
| grimmware | added to the fact that it's got a fresh screen v2 which I've never seen powered on heh | 19:49 |
| minute | aye aye | 19:52 |
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| minute | ah haha now a final final problem: the driver leaves reset _on_, but barebox can't turn that off, so after a warm reboot into barebox, it can't bring up the display. so now fixing that. | 20:18 |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 20:38 | |
| Esi | woops | 20:44 |
| Esi | question: is sleep/wake theoretically possible in the future for the Pocket (rk3588) and is that something that might get worked on in the future, or is it unlikely/not possible? | 20:46 |
| Esi | small part of me is tempted to shell out cash for the other cpu module because of suspend :P | 20:47 |
| loon | my current order is for the module supporting suspend, but I'd be interested in changing the order if it's possible for the rk3588 to get suspend support | 20:48 |
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| minute | Esi: i have new builds for you to test! | 22:04 |
| minute | Esi: add to /etc/apt/sources.list : deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/23687/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 22:05 |
| minute | Esi: then: flash this version of barebox, otherwise barebox will have the stripeys now after warm reset: https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-barebox/-/jobs/23694/artifacts/raw/images/barebox-mnt-pocket-reform-rk3588.img | 22:06 |
| minute | Esi: reminder, command for that is: sudo dd if=barebox-mnt-pocket-reform-rk3588.img of=/dev/mmcblk0 seek=64 | 22:07 |
| Esi | woot | 22:08 |
| Esi | checking in a min | 22:08 |
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| minute | noice | 22:12 |
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| Esi | do i need to remove the repo and stuff we added yesterday? | 22:15 |
| - marty (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~marty@143.244.47.71) | 22:17 | |
| + marty (~marty@143.244.47.71) | 22:18 | |
| Esi | and should i do apt upgrade or something before flashing barebox? | 22:18 |
| minute | Esi: oh yeah better to remove the line from yesterday. and then do: `apt update` and then `apt install linux-image-mnt-reform-arm64` | 22:22 |
| minute | Esi: apt upgrade is not necessary. | 22:23 |
| Esi | 🤞 ok restarting | 22:29 |
| minute | cool cool | 22:30 |
| Esi | ok i've tried restarting and turn off/turn on couple of times and no screen issues so far so that's a good sign :) | 22:30 |
| minute | i also just tested this on a system with uboot+dispv1 | 22:30 |
| minute | Esi: yayy, many thanks for testing | 22:30 |
| minute | Esi: you can now remove that extra line from /etc/apt/sources.list so you won't get errors from apt later when that test build disappears one day | 22:31 |
| Esi | this happens quite randomly but I would say quite often though, so although I can't say with 100% certainty that this has been fixed I can say it most likely is. I'll let you know if I will encounter anything weird, but this looks solid so far. | 22:32 |
| Esi | roger | 22:32 |
| Esi | thank you very much | 22:32 |
| minute | Esi: cool! i think before i had this happen on like 10-20% of cold starts and 100% of warm starts (with barebox) | 22:33 |
| Esi | oh yeah, sounds about right | 22:35 |
| minute | ah, pipelines are done and i rolled out this version to our regular debian apt repo | 22:39 |
| Esi | <3 | 23:09 |
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