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| rick_ | andreas-e oh, they supporty wayland now ^^ | 00:10 |
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| andreas-e | minute just told me today :) | 00:12 |
| minute | josch: Esi: ohhh @ gnome-software-plugin-deb, lets ship that by default then | 00:19 |
| amospalla | josch: thank you, module seems to be loaded now, I can ask for battery status and host powers off. Display does not work at all since reform-tools 1.88 put the module on the initramfs (coincidence ?). | 00:20 |
| josch | minute: kernel 7.1.x with mnt-sc driver works for me on rk3588 pocket reform with disp v2 with barebox and u-boot for both MNT Debian unstable as well as Debian Trixie+Backports from reform.debian.net Thank you! | 00:21 |
| amospalla | Display stopped working for me once I upgraded reform-tools to 1.88 and rebooted. Tried reboot, power off/power on, physically turn off on. rk3588, barebox, display panel v1. | 00:24 |
| josch | amospalla: see above -- m.inute seems to be working on display v1 issues right now | 00:27 |
| amospalla | oh, didn't read that, thank you. I was about to post on forums, but not needed then. | 00:28 |
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| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 247 seconds) (~mjw@206.12.14.68) | 00:54 | |
| minute | amospalla: josch: in the meantime the new kernel update should be rolled out, can you try it amospalla? | 01:20 |
| minute | > 7.1.7-1+reform20260807T200049Z | 01:21 |
| + mjw (~mjw@206.12.14.68) | 01:26 | |
| + LNSY (~LNSY@98.147.157.153) | 02:19 | |
| LNSY | Hello, is anyone up? I tried upgrading my mnt pocket reform firmware and now my pocket reform will not boot. Here is a detail: https://community.mnt.re/t/system-image-link-404s-and-a-bricked-mnt-pocket-reform/4540 | 02:20 |
| - AnimaInvicta (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~AnimaInvi@88-169-191-86.subs.proxad.net) | 02:28 | |
| minute | LNSY: hey! did you see this? https://community.mnt.re/t/important-note-about-the-new-mnt-pocket-reform-kernel-and-firmware-updates-20260806/4534 | 02:33 |
| minute | LNSY: did you already try booting with an HDMI monitor connected? | 02:34 |
| minute | LNSY: and here are system images from june https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/22099/artifacts/browse | 02:34 |
| LNSY | minute I have not tried to boot with an external HDMI, will try that next | 02:37 |
| LNSY | minute also: https://mntre.com/docs-pocket-reform.html is where the link to the gitlab links are | 02:38 |
| - Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 02:41 | |
| LNSY | minute I did follow those instructions, and that's when the device stopped booting | 02:41 |
| minute | LNSY: ah yes you're right, i need to update that releases page asap | 03:19 |
| minute | LNSY: from your post it looks like both firmware updates didn't happen as both of those versions are older. both FWs should be at 20260808 by now | 03:20 |
| minute | LNSY: if you manage to boot with a system image on sd card from my link, and go to gnome firmware or use fwupdmgr update, can you document what happens? i.e. any errors or other interesting feedback | 03:21 |
| minute | LNSY: as you are still on old firmware, booting a june image from microSD shouldn't be a problem | 03:22 |
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| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 241 seconds) (~mjw@206.12.14.68) | 03:31 | |
| + Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66) | 03:47 | |
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| + murphnj (~murphnj@user/murphnj) | 05:04 | |
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| + RandyK (~RandyK@user/randyk) | 06:08 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@206.12.14.124) | 07:08 | |
| + shdw (~shdw@static.218.156.216.95.clients.your-server.de) | 09:49 | |
| amospalla | minute: there is no kernel update on Debian Trixie, I guess you refer to Sid. | 09:53 |
| + rodion_goritskov (~rodion_go@mail.goritskov.com) | 09:56 | |
| amospalla | A new firmware appeared, applied it. It seems everything works except for video panel. (rk3588, barebox, panel v1, debian/stable/trixie). | 09:57 |
| josch | amospalla: kernel updates on reform.d.n are done by me, reform.d.n is *not* something receiving support from MNT | 10:07 |
| amospalla | josch: I see. minute pinged both me and you that is why I pinged him back. Later I've rechecked the chat and I saw he was talking about 7.1.7-1, which is probably coming to Sid, not to Trixie. | 10:09 |
| josch | amospalla: yes, but if you have display v1, then the fix is probably minute's latest commit with subject "pocket-panel: disable hw reset on display v1, fixes display v1 no longer working on rk3588" | 10:10 |
| josch | i just hacked that into the reform.d.n machinery | 10:10 |
| josch | i cannot do it properly right now | 10:10 |
| amospalla | I guess, I could try installing these manually on my Trixie to test. | 10:10 |
| josch | i'm leaving for a canoeing/camping trip now -- back tomorrow | 10:11 |
| amospalla | I'm not worried about my pocket, but more willingly to help. I'm at home and not needing it. | 10:11 |
| josch | amospalla: reform.d.n is running and the new kernel should be in the repos in ~6 hours if everything goes according to plan. If not, you have to wait until tomorrow when I'm back at my laptop. | 10:12 |
| amospalla | ok, understood, thank you :) | 10:13 |
| josch | amospalla: if you want to join the reform.d.n team i'd be happy to collaborate. I can give you ssh access to the box building everything if you'd like to help maintaining it. | 10:13 |
| amospalla | I have no prior experience, what kind of tasks are involved? | 10:14 |
| josch | sorry, have to leave to catch the train now -- back tomorrow! | 10:16 |
| amospalla | bye! | 10:16 |
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| + AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-169-191-86.subs.proxad.net) | 11:57 | |
| lidstah | hehe, just scored a gen10 HP server, 32 cores, 192GB RAM, 14x1TB SSDs, 2x10Gbps network, for free :'). dodged the rampocalypse on this one :D | 12:23 |
| lidstah | and ~70W less than the old chap' it gonna replace, nice | 12:29 |
| lidstah | the old chap will go in a school lab' | 12:30 |
| bremner | is it loud? | 12:31 |
| lidstah | bremner: quite quiet (except at boot, of course), I'm a bit surprised as I thought it would have been noisier | 12:32 |
| lidstah | and almost brand new, as it was a spare that never saw prod' (got it from a client) | 12:35 |
| bremner | yeah, some are engineered for office use, others really not | 12:35 |
| lidstah | indeed - although I switched it back from performance to balanced mode in the iLO conf' as raw performance is not a priority here, might also help with the noise | 12:37 |
| lidstah | gonna send a champaign bottle to my client to thanks them. | 12:40 |
| lidstah | and probably some local specialties | 12:42 |
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| jfred | 192 GB of RAM! Pretty fancy for a homelab :D | 15:10 |
| lidstah | jfred: yeah, I also use my homelab for work (total amount of ram in the proxmox cluster is 580GB right now, but will be around 512GB once old chap' is retired) so I often need important amounts of memory, especially when I demo some planned infrastructure to clients, or when I test practice works for the engineering schools I also work for | 15:27 |
| lidstah | so it will be put to good use :) | 15:28 |
| lidstah | right now I'm emptying old chap - quite a number of VMs to move around, and some storage too. | 15:29 |
| lidstah | and old chap will be recycled as a backup server in one of said engineering schools (especially to backup exam works for the students there) | 15:30 |
| lidstah | so it will be put to good use and not thrown away while it's still useful | 15:31 |
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| + marty (~marty@143.244.47.71) | 16:49 | |
| + siviq (~siviq@user/siviq) | 16:55 | |
| + andreas-e (~Andreas@2a02-8434-b6a3-e901-facc-8e87-8e54-890d.rev.sfr.net) | 17:11 | |
| siviq | lidstah You got yourself little treasure right there. The decommissioned systems often are left in some corner or basement until sent for scrap. I used to be involved in our office labs setup, back then I helped create the fibre channel network (SAN). Turned out, we had received some already EOS hardware along with brand new systems. Everything | 17:16 |
| siviq | worked, but the interoperability was a nightmare. For educational purposes, old hardware is still good, in my opinion. No need to scrap it, while it still can be useful to students. I've also recently re-discovered my old Thinkpad T430, which I used for the labs configuration. :) Still works just fine. | 17:16 |
| - RandyK (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~RandyK@user/randyk) | 17:31 | |
| + RandyK (~RandyK@user/randyk) | 17:36 | |
| jfred | I've got a pile of decommissioned machines from years ago, but I think they max out at around 36 GB of RAM or some such. They're, unfortunately, too power-hungry to make it worth running them at home | 17:46 |
| jfred | and they're... DDR3, I think | 17:46 |
| siviq | One stick DDR3 will be perfect to upgrade my T430 from 8GB to 16GB RAM (sodimm of course). I should check the local used goods market. | 18:01 |
| lidstah | siviq: hey :) how's life? and indeed reasonably old hardware can still be useful in a students' school lab :) | 18:06 |
| lidstah | good ol' T430 (or x230 for the smaller version), still capable machines nowadays once you max out the RAM and put an SSD in it :) | 18:07 |
| siviq | lidstah been doing well, preparing for short vacation now. :) I have an SSD already, looking for RAM as we speak. Some 30 Euro in my region - Bulgaria. Used it to test few different Linux distros - ElementaryOS and Ubuntu. First one didn't work well and I switched to Ubuntu. Kind of planning to use the good old T430 as emulator machine for those | 18:10 |
| siviq | old Capcom cabinet games. Already tested mame with "Cadilacs & Dinosaurs" and it works well. | 18:10 |
| siviq | did you expand you game list for MNT Reform? | 18:11 |
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| * RandyK_ -> RandyK | 18:19 | |
| lidstah | siviq: sorry, playing luanti with my son, added Unreal World (survival roguelike in a finnish-inspired world, really hard), Rogue Empire and I'm probably forgetting one game | 18:23 |
| lidstah | damn | 18:23 |
| lidstah | RoadWarden! | 18:23 |
| lidstah | got it :D | 18:23 |
| lidstah | siviq: I should update the reform gaming thread but I want to get to at least 65 or if possible 70 games in the list before updating/necrobumping the thread | 18:24 |
| siviq | lidstah nice :) Have fun gaming with your son. I'll contribute to the list of games when I can. Now I'm going back to work, till next time. :) | 18:33 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@206.12.14.40) | 19:08 | |
| + reform24790 (~franzo@2a01:5241:cfa:9500:9322:b0a9:440a:b453) | 19:14 | |
| reform24790 | hi does anybody know why sway is telling me my cofig is wrong? I get this | 19:15 |
| reform24790 | well I can't paste, thanks irc | 19:15 |
| reform24790 | anyway it seems like something is trying to load the old kernel | 19:15 |
| reform24790 | I di a kernel downgrade becausew of some issues with the firmware update but now everything is fine... apart from sway | 19:16 |
| reform24790 | I have now successfully installed latest kernel and firmware now | 19:16 |
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| Esi | oh lol, Pocket keyboard is missing one vital key for icelandic keyboard. The letter eth haha | 19:31 |
| Esi | or i havent found it yet | 19:31 |
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| + akira (~akira@ipb218f96b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) | 19:37 | |
| Esi | this key https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YZb7NICX/IMG_20260808_173655_1_1.jpg | 19:44 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 257 seconds) (~mjw@206.12.14.40) | 19:44 | |
| andreas-e | You can always type it as a unicode character: ctrl-shift-u 00f0 enter for the small and 00d0 for the capital letter. Not very convenient to use 8 keystrokes, but at least something to try until you get better advice. | 19:51 |
| + mjw (~mjw@206.12.14.40) | 19:55 | |
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| loon | it's probably available as a compose combination, but that still sucks for a letter of the alphabet | 20:18 |
| loon | but like, you can't put every key on the keyboard so | 20:18 |
| loon | every character rather | 20:18 |
| + akira (~akira@194.213.108.3) | 20:21 | |
| + FirefoxDeHuk (~FirefoxDe@user/FirefoxDeHuk) | 20:21 | |
| minute | loon: is it this one: ð Ð ? | 20:47 |
| minute | loon: i get it by pressing AGR+d | 20:47 |
| minute | loon: we ship EURkey by default https://eurkey.steffen.bruentjen.eu/ | 20:47 |
| minute | loon: when i need to write german, i use agr+aous for äöüß :D | 20:48 |
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| loon | Esi, ^^^ relevant to your interests | 20:52 |
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