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| josch | haha I wish I could do complex things like that "accidentally" too XD | 13:28 |
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| josch | minute: congrats! | 13:28 |
| josch | minute: also, reform-tools 1.88 is in the MNT repos now, so testing should become a bit easier. | 13:28 |
| josch | Let me know if anything else is missing. | 13:29 |
| minute | josch: awesome, i shall install it | 13:37 |
| minute | btw something must have improved performance recently in mesa, kernel or gnome on rk3588 | 13:49 |
| minute | scrolling in emacs is smooth now even if i have pocket internal+external display open at the same time and the window is overlapping the displays | 13:50 |
| minute | this used to be slow. also firefox feels a bit snappier | 13:51 |
| minute | (scrolls very fast on 120hz display) | 13:51 |
| minute | last night i was struggling with hobby software things though, lv2 plugin host woes | 13:58 |
| minute | i'm trying to host x11 (sub?)windows in my mainly-wayland app | 13:58 |
| minute | and noticed that i don't understand x11 well enough yet | 13:59 |
| minute | first it seems refreshingly easy, but then it suddenly has lots of bizarro complicated things from the past | 13:59 |
| minute | SubstructureRedirectMask! | 14:00 |
| minute | oh huh, that's new https://github.com/brummer10/Luma | 14:04 |
| minute | haha omg this was what i was trying to write last night https://github.com/brummer10/Luma/blob/main/LV2Host/BackEnds/X11UiBackend.cpp | 14:12 |
| aloo_shu | oh indeed, it's brummer of guitarix fame | 14:13 |
| aloo_shu | wasn't https://github.com/drobilla/jalv running on a similar ticket | 14:18 |
| minute | yeah but i used jalv so far as a reference and i'm in a lot of pain | 14:23 |
| minute | also jalv uses another library, suil, for UI things, and it is not clear how direct x11-to-x11 is done | 14:23 |
| minute | only x11-in-gtk2 and x11-in-gtk3 which i'm abandoning atm because one cannot mix wayland and x11 gtk3 in the same process | 14:23 |
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| lidstah | eew, kernel 7.1.5 | 15:11 |
| josch | lidstah: you probably also got a new reform-tools version -- please report bugs when you find them :) | 15:12 |
| lidstah | josch: yes, indeed, although I've not finished upgrading yet :D | 15:14 |
| lidstah | will report if I find anything after reboot :) | 15:15 |
| josch | awesome, thank you! | 15:15 |
| lidstah | reboot time :) | 15:16 |
| lidstah | and back (with coffee hence the time :p) | 15:21 |
| lidstah | (and I forgot, but hi josch! :)) | 15:22 |
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| lidstah | mmh E: /usr/lib/modules/7.1.5-mnt-reform-arm64/kernel/drivers/firmware/mnt-sc.ko{.xz} does not exist << is this normal (reform-check output)? (reform classic) | 15:31 |
| lidstah | although it wasn't present in 7.1.4 modules, and previous reform-check doesn't seem to have checked on this one | 15:32 |
| lidstah | " bin/reform-check: only check for mnt_sc on pocket reform" commit 1ab9ddc272695b5157ede642ff461296b62d0a10 | 15:33 |
| lidstah | so it's pocket reform related but does seems to be checked by reform-check on the classic reform although it shouldn't... mmmh, why | 15:34 |
| lidstah | and commit ca61f21c5448ac56f4c608155a9f3635a0975ba1 introduces the check of the module presence in kernel/drivers/firmware/ but doesn't seems to check if it is running on a pocket or classic | 15:35 |
| lidstah | commit 1ab9ddc272695b5157ede642ff461296b62d0a10 check if mnt_sc module is present in /proc/modules only if running on a pocket reform (OK), but commit ca61f21c5448ac56f4c608155a9f3635a0975ba1 check presence of the module in kernel/drivers/firmware/, in the function backend_modules_check() without checking if running on a pocket | 15:38 |
| lidstah | so, normal although can raise some eyebrows when running reform-check on a classic :) | 15:39 |
| lidstah | (in all honesty, I missed an heartbeat on this one :D) | 15:40 |
| josch | lidstah: mnt-sc.ko missing is okay -- this will fix itself once minute merges rk3588-pocket-dp-altmode-and-sc branch | 15:45 |
| lidstah | :) | 15:45 |
| minute | lidstah: good point about mntsc on classic, it's not in use yet there | 15:46 |
| lidstah | josch: thanks for the clarification | 15:47 |
| lidstah | had a small heart attack because it was the first time I saw an error while using reform-check on my classic :D (j/k about the heart attack) | 15:47 |
| lidstah | (having a look at the recent commits explained it) | 15:48 |
| lidstah | I should really get a pocket one day... | 15:51 |
| minute | always good to have :DD | 15:52 |
| josch | lidstah: you should, it's only getting better! | 15:52 |
| lidstah | but I've already too many computers :') between the various thinkpads spanning 15 years and the frankenstein proxmox cluster with NUCs, old servers and the network backbone at home... | 15:52 |
| lidstah | damn, spanning 20 years if I count the T60 running 9front | 15:52 |
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| lidstah | I should open a museum once I'm retired :D | 15:54 |
| lidstah | (still have an amiga 1200, and some old IBM PCs, one 386, one pentium 3, too) | 15:58 |
| lidstah | (they would probably need a recap, though) | 15:58 |
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| minute | lidstah: amiga 1200, i also have one and would like to set it up again, but extremely undecided of _how_ to set it up and integrate it at home at all, like for music stuff or so | 16:31 |
| lidstah | minute: mine has not been powered on since the early 2010's. Workbench 3.1, 060+PPC603e, 64MB RAM (EDO :')) and an 8GB SCSI hard disk. | 16:40 |
| lidstah | I recall spending hours on it with friends, playing around with octamed sound studio, protracker and such | 16:43 |
| lidstah | good ol' cannon fodder too, frontier elite 2, black crypt, pinball fantasies... | 16:44 |
| lidstah | directory opus magellan was amazing as a workbench replacement too | 16:44 |
| lidstah | learned Vim on it back in the 90's (thanks Fred Fish) | 16:45 |
| lidstah | deluxe paint, imageFX, imagine 3D... | 16:46 |
| lidstah | lightwave 3D (never used it though) | 16:46 |
| lidstah | there was so much creativity softwares... and the demoscene too | 16:47 |
| minute | lidstah: oh, working 603e... | 16:50 |
| minute | lidstah: funny, i used almost all of those tools too | 16:51 |
| minute | lidstah: i'd like something like the zz9000 but for the a1200, not sure how to fit it in though. i've thought about pcmcia but not sure how much of a headache that would be to design | 16:52 |
| lidstah | amIRC too, spent too many hours (and I won't talk about the phone bill where all the money I got with summer jobs went) | 16:52 |
| minute | same same! | 16:52 |
| minute | i had 33.6 dialup and later isdn hooked up to it and went to irc, and learned html on it | 16:53 |
| lidstah | working 603e, not sure (not powered on since ~15 years... bit wary powering it on without a proper check up and recap) | 16:53 |
| lidstah | ahah same :D | 16:53 |
| lidstah | learned a bit of C too with gcc (again, thanks Fred Fish) | 16:53 |
| minute | ah right :D i have a fast 68030 card from jens, but i would miss rtg+network from the zz | 16:53 |
| minute | lidstah: same at C, actually C++, with maxon/stormc | 16:54 |
| lidstah | ah, never managed to get my hands on stormC | 16:54 |
| minute | came with a big ring folder with a manual and that contained an intro to the language | 16:54 |
| lidstah | it came with a complete IDE iirc, no? | 16:54 |
| minute | yeah it's an IDE | 16:54 |
| minute | i actually used it to make ZZTop (little gui for the zz9000) a few years ago | 16:55 |
| lidstah | it's still maintained? | 16:55 |
| minute | hmm i don't think so. it was commercial | 16:55 |
| minute | i used it to write a (never finished) RTS game in ~1999 and then switched to BeOS on a PC | 16:56 |
| lidstah | oh, BeOS :) | 17:01 |
| lidstah | played a bit with Haiku on my old thinkpad x201, but never used the original one. I would have loved to get my hands on a BeBox too back in the day | 17:02 |
| lidstah | *days | 17:02 |
| lidstah | got a PC around 99/2000, used Windows a bit (like 3 monthes), then put Debian on it, never looked back since :') | 17:03 |
| lidstah | and well, back in the days, it was still a bit rough on the edges but at least, it did what I wanted it to do without much problems/reboots/blue screens :') | 17:05 |
| lidstah | but I still used the amiga fairly frequently until around 2005/2006 | 17:06 |
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