2026-07-26.log

+ voltaire28 (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)00:05
loonhi, I recently ordered a pocket reform and am interested in poking around at the code before it arrives. I created a new user account on the gitlab instance (username luna) but my account is still awaiting activation. Is the gitlab instance more for active devs only?00:24
- paperManu_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~paperManu@204.48.0.160)00:27
+ paperManu_ (~paperManu@204.48.0.160)00:29
minuteloon: yes, the gitlab is for contributors. you don't need an account to poke around at the repos, which are mostly here: https://source.mnt.re/reform00:29
loonAh, thanks! I got an immediate login prompt when I went to the URL so I assumed I needed to log in00:32
- voltaire28 (QUIT: Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3) (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)00:38
+ voltaire28 (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)00:39
minuteloon: right, i see how that is confusing00:47
josch(no idea why gitlab is designed like this)01:05
joschi just uploaded the ezurio-qcacld-2.0-dkms with support for linux 7.1 to debian01:05
joschand reform-tools 1.87 to backports01:06
- mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)01:16
- murphnj (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~murphnj@user/murphnj)01:18
+ murphnj (~murphnj@user/murphnj)01:19
- paperManu_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 250 seconds) (~paperManu@204.48.0.160)01:24
+ paperManu_ (~paperManu@204.48.0.160)01:26
minutejosch: awesome, many thanks!01:39
joschthe time intensive task is, that reform-desktop-full depends on everything and the kitchen sink. So the moment any of the packages or its transitive dependencies is RC buggy, reform-tools is also buggy and gets removed from Debian testing. For example last week I spent some time rewriting the fonts-jetbrains-mono build system from kotlin (which was buggy) to python: https://bugs.debian.org/113164801:43
minuteufff02:02
joschit's fun :D02:06
minuteoh ok :DD02:31
joschand exams are over now, so i can catch up on things again -- i have a long MNT related todo list like the keyboard trackstick mod :)02:35
- voltaire28 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)02:48
+ robin (~robin@user/terpri)02:54
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+ oliverD (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd)03:53
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- oliverD (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd)10:53
+ voltaire28 (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)11:32
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)12:00
minutejosch: awesome, congratz for making it through exams time :D12:35
minutehm, i'm chasing small audio droupouts on my qcs8550 reform next and i'm noticing that pipewire doesn't seem to be using realtime priority12:46
minuteinstead, nice level -1112:46
minute> ps -eo pid,tid,class,rtprio,ni,pri,psr,pcpu,stat,wchan:14,comm --sort=+pcpu | grep wire12:46
minutethis has a dash (-) for rtprio12:46
minutehmm rtkit has very lacking docs, at least in the package12:50
minutehmm, ulimit -a shows "real-time priority                  (-r) 0" that's maybe not normal?12:53
- amospalla (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~jordi@user/amospalla)13:10
minuteaccording to journalctl -f -u rtkit-daemon, wireplumber, pipewire, pipewire-pulse don't ask it for realtime prio when restarting those user services13:12
minutefirefox does ask for rt though13:12
+ oliverD (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd)13:18
- oliverD (QUIT: Ping timeout: 259 seconds) (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd)13:23
+ amospalla (~jordi@user/amospalla)14:02
+ paperManu (~paperManu@204.48.0.160)14:50
- robin (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~robin@user/terpri)14:53
+ robin (~robin@user/terpri)14:53
+ paperManu_ (~paperManu@204.48.0.160)14:56
- Gooberpatrol66 (QUIT: Quit: Konversation terminated!) (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)17:41
- voltaire28 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)17:59
grimmwarebrowsers are the worst18:03
grimmwareif I could get through life without needing a web browser I'd be a happier and more focused person.18:03
+ Gooberpatrol66 (~Gooberpat@user/gooberpatrol66)18:07
joschgrimmware: i'd like to use the same web browser as somebody with your sentiment -- may i ask which browser you find the least bad right now? Answers like links2 -g are accepted. :)18:28
grimmwareI've been using Glide which is a firefox fork that's gone in hard on the vim-mode keybindings (i.e. you can select the window chrome that way too) and it's highly configurable via typescript. That said I hate that one too.18:29
joschhaha18:31
joschyeah i used to use pentadactyl until firefox broke their plugin system 18:31
grimmwaremy ideal scenario is that someone wraps like, servo in an HTTP API so I can just script all the UI into my window manager instead18:34
grimmwareI don't understand why tabs get to be special.18:34
swivelgrimmware: have you explore the arcan-fe project at all?  i dunno if it's still active, but it had some interesting WM/compositor oriented ideas18:42
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+ voltaire28 (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)19:06
+ robin (~robin@user/terpri)19:08
+ robin_ (~robin@user/terpri)19:37
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+ robin_ (~robin@user/terpri)19:42
grimmwareI certainly played around with it! I'm increasingly of the opinion that we've assumed a small number of interface paradigms are suitable and I'm realizing more and more that they just don't map to how I think19:56
grimmwaretest19:58
grimmwarewhoops sorry19:59
+ arminweigl_ (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl)21:19
- arminweigl (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~arminweig@sourcehut/user/arminweigl)21:20
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minutemeh, gitlab is down23:05
minutei thought we were past that... but don't have time to investigate right now23:06
joschminute: debian gitlab was down yesterday -- its admin is quite burned out i have the feeling...23:07
- AnimaInvicta (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~AnimaInvi@88-169-191-86.subs.proxad.net)23:44

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