| rick_ | jfi: as i tested i with barebox yesterday, i saw in the battery display that it draws 2.00A during unlocking encrypted nvme. maybe thats points also towards it | 00:00 |
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| elb | josch: I dunno; it's the same problem that's always existed, I think it's just a matter of batteries aging or something? | 00:01 |
| rick_ | just for a sec thou, but thats probably more than enough ^^v | 00:01 |
| elb | minute: I think the trouble is, what's in the bundle? | 00:01 |
| elb | I was previously also looking at the headphone board 2.0, but I think with the qualcomm my desire for it reduces substantially (since it has onboard wifi, I think?) | 00:02 |
| elb | but yes, I like the idea | 00:02 |
| minute | elb: qcom doesn't have wifi on board, needs the same headphone board 2.0 | 00:03 |
| elb | oh, well, then that, too :-) | 00:03 |
| minute | but the battery problem can and should be fixed in any case | 00:03 |
| minute | i had hoped that someone could contribute a fix but it goes in my TODO now | 00:03 |
| elb | I had hoped to spend a lot more time hacking my PR than I've had time for, so that's two of us | 00:04 |
| minute | ohh | 00:04 |
| minute | btw i've been working on a console/terminal mode for the keyboard today where you can interactively talk to the SC | 00:05 |
| minute | josch: i've also made a lot of progress on supporting mb1.0 in my new SC firmware, but couldn't test it yet | 00:05 |
| josch | oh i haven't had a look at that | 00:09 |
| minute | yeah it's too early | 00:12 |
| minute | but i'll ping you :D | 00:12 |
| minute | i have an almost good line-editor now, now implementing scrolling | 00:12 |
| minute | (this will be useful for DP alt mode and similar things debugging on the device itself) | 00:13 |
| minute | and to set settings that are not yet in some nice menu | 00:13 |
| minute | for example on mb2.0 you can change the usb port configuration (muxes) in various ways | 00:14 |
| minute | also, in the reform next fw i have soc serial forwarding. so forwarding soc serial to the keyboard oled is not that far away | 00:15 |
| minute | it's a bit limited of course due to 21 horizontal chars with the current font.. | 00:15 |
| minute | here's the console :D https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/merge_requests/86/diffs?commit_id=445b06610cc0fe944247a4e319f669a4a9b0ef2b | 00:49 |
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| minute | so i just typed "(set-usb 1 1)" in the oled console and it switched the sysctl usb connection to internal and usb-c port 1 to normal host mode | 01:01 |
| minute | if i do "(set-usb 1 0)" it will instead expose the sysctl usb to the outside on usb-c port 1 | 01:01 |
| minute | on mb1.0 you'd have to open the back and set 2 jumpers to do that | 01:02 |
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| elb | ACTION notices a scheme-like syntax and approves | 01:26 |
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| spew | I didn't realize the qualcomm was avaiable already | 02:03 |
| spew | oh, only for pocket so far | 02:05 |
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| rick_ | josch regarding on your forum post. I'm still on awe that your are mainly using a311d every day.. i don't run any ressource hungry proccess either but still.. tbh the most intensive one would be my browser lol (i hate modern web).. which browser your using? | 09:04 |
| josch | rick_: oh absolutely browser is the worst offender | 09:26 |
| josch | rick_: everything else works fine -- only the browser is a huge pain | 09:26 |
| josch | and for the browser it's not only the cpu that's limiting. It eats memory for breakfast so i usually do some stuff in a terminal somewhere on my 12 sway workspaces and then i switch to the workspace with firefox and then have to wait 10 seconds for 2 GB of firefox memory getting swapped back in... | 09:27 |
| josch | a311d+browser would probably be much better if it didn't just have 3.6 GB ram | 09:27 |
| josch | i have an rk3588 classic reform here which i *could* be using but it is extremely helpful to have one machine which i can regularly 100% scrub or otherwise i can never test tools like reform-setup-encrypted-disk or reform-emmc-bootstrap or do an installation of Debian using debian-installer from reform.debian.net | 09:28 |
| josch | if i would switch to rk3588 as my main machine i would have the a311d for testing which would not test the thing that most people are using these days and that would be suboptimal | 09:29 |
| rick_ | josch >would probably be much better if it didn't just have 3.6 GB ramyeah also thats why i waited for the rk back then ^^v | 10:12 |
| rick_ | ohh intreesting, i thought most would've switched to the rk now :3 | 10:12 |
| rick_ | tbh the ram topic also holds me back form the quasar currently. most times i have open some chat progs, mail, terminal and browser (with some tabs i have to admit) and i nearly hit 8gig sometimes. especially after a longer browser session. | 10:24 |
| rick_ | maybe we should all switch back to lynx, would save us a lot of money XDD | 10:24 |
| amospalla | just found barebox has a full unix shell :O | 10:54 |
| lidstah | josch: ooow, seems I don't need MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=zink to play openmw with your repo (cf https://community.mnt.re/t/community-debian-repository-beta/4435 ) | 11:32 |
| lidstah | mmmh, must test KOTOR2 to validate | 11:32 |
| lidstah | erf, nope, need zink with KOTOR2 | 11:33 |
| lidstah | but not anymore with open morrowind | 11:34 |
| lidstah | mmh, might be box64 related | 11:34 |
| lidstah | will try a bit more this afternoon | 11:34 |
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| kop316 | minute: the mnt site is saying that pocket reform keyboard switches are no longer available. Do you know when they will be available again? | 13:20 |
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| minute | weird situation where libavcodec61 has a newer version in stable than in unstable | 14:33 |
| minute | kop316: huh, where exactly? | 14:34 |
| minute | lidstah:i just played a bit of Zero Parades for Dead Spies on my 8550 MNT Reform Next but that is a bit cheating of course :D | 14:35 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 14:36 | |
| minute | TIL about the "oldenburg email" https://alioth-lists-archive.debian.net/pipermail/secure-testing-team/2005-September/000432.html | 14:38 |
| minute | coincidentally i was born in oldenburg | 14:38 |
| kop316 | minutewhen i try to checkout the mnt keyboard with any of the key switches, it errors out with "keyboard switches unavailable" and doesnt let me check out | 14:54 |
| minute | kop316: thanks for raising this, checking now | 15:01 |
| minute | kop316: fixed now, thanks again! does it work for you? | 15:03 |
| minute | this shop system can be really annoying sometimes... | 15:03 |
| minute | uff same issue for the regular keyboards... | 15:13 |
| minute | fixed | 15:21 |
| f_ | oh I just saw quasar 6490 is available now | 15:26 |
| f_ | congrats! \o/ | 15:26 |
| f_ | I'm glad you did it! | 15:26 |
| minute | f_: thx!! what do you like most about it? | 15:28 |
| f_ | it's the same soc as my phone xD | 15:28 |
| f_ | half-joking. But it seems to be a very promising upgrade from my sandy bridge! | 15:28 |
| minute | f_: haha, same here tbh (FP5) | 15:29 |
| minute | it's nice to experience it with not-android and bigger screens, keyboard etc, pcie :D | 15:30 |
| f_ | minute: lol same phone | 15:30 |
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| f_ | in a way I find it ironic that my phone is in theory faster than my laptop xD | 15:32 |
| f_ | I saw some gaming on that module and it's pretty nice to see how powerful it is (even if I'm not actually gaming on my computer :p) | 15:34 |
| kop316 | minute: it works now! I was able to make my order | 15:53 |
| + spew (~spew@user/spew) | 16:00 | |
| minute | kop316: many thanks, order received | 16:09 |
| kop316 | minuteif you dont mind my asking, how many orders for the Quasor have been made so far? | 16:11 |
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| josch | rick_: i don't have stats or anything but my gut feeling from the people writing in the forum is, that most people who go there right now have the rk3588, yes. For what I *do* have stats is this IRC channel and there it's the other way round. The *vast* majority of people here run the imx8mq with classic reform. :D | 16:49 |
| josch | lidstah: the changes in the debian extras repo should not result in the issue you are seeing from my understanding of it | 16:50 |
| josch | minute: do you have details about libavcodec61? Such a situation should never happen because it prevents an upgrade path from the current stable to the next. I don't see what you describe in the archive. | 16:52 |
| minute | josch: interesting @ vast imx8mq majority :0 | 16:58 |
| minute | josch: yea the newer version is in trixie-security. one sec | 16:58 |
| minute | (i needed it to install hangover-wine) | 16:59 |
| minute | josch: https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libavutil59 | 16:59 |
| f_ | It's always nice to have multiple options ^^ | 16:59 |
| minute | > libavutil59 (7:7.1.4-0+deb13u1) | 16:59 |
| minute | josch: https://packages.debian.org/sid/libavutil59 | 16:59 |
| josch | minute: 23 imx8mq irc users versus 9 with imx8m+ pocket reform (the next most popular platform) | 16:59 |
| minute | > libavutil59 (7:7.1.3-1) | 17:00 |
| minute | josch: fascinating, i wonder if that's because IRC is better for lower spec cpus | 17:00 |
| minute | kop316: so far 12 or 13 | 17:01 |
| minute | so we're approximately half way :D | 17:03 |
| kop316 | ahh nice! | 17:03 |
| josch | Eeee I keep forgetting that we are still so few (comparatively) XD | 17:04 |
| josch | minute: thank you for sharing the libavutil59 situation with me. I was indeed unfamiliar with that this apparently can happen and I can only assume that this is allowed because we do not plan to ship the next stable with libavutil59 at all but finish the transition to libavcodec61 or later until the next stable release. | 17:08 |
| minute | josch: alright! | 17:18 |
| lidstah | 14:50:33 @josch │ lidstah: the changes in the debian extras repo should not result in the issue you are seeing from my understanding of it << that's not really an issue, but it might be due to the recent openmw update (0.51) - it's just that now, it doesn't need MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=zink anymore (before, if you launched it without it, it was "psychedelic") | 17:21 |
| lidstah | but as I didn't tested it before switching to your repo, I first thought it was a - nice - side effect of the patched mesa libs | 17:22 |
| lidstah | but as KOTOR2 still needs the zink override, it does seems it's not a side effect and maybe due to the openmw 0.51 upgrade instead. | 17:23 |
| lidstah | not yet had time to check the openmw release notes | 17:23 |
| lidstah | on the plus side of the new openmw, water shaders now works perfectly: https://celeano.lidstah.info/-w8iyobHZbZ (I cap OpenMW at 35FPS for battery life) | 17:31 |
| lidstah | now I'm gonna start playing with view distance... | 17:32 |
| lidstah | mmh, need to update my reform games list to reflect the openmw changes | 17:39 |
| lidstah | shaders, OK, increasing view distance to 1.5 cells, OK (even in vivec). cool :) | 17:40 |
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