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| minute | josch: @ a311d, sd card issue. or sd card slot issue. | 01:28 |
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| vagrantc | andreas-e: "grep --text ..." to force it to think of it as a text file | 03:55 |
| vagrantc | andreas-e: glad it worked, though! now your debian install is certainly more up to date than mine! | 03:55 |
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| josch | minute: sd-card slot issue -- problem fixed :) | 06:33 |
| josch | minute: in https://community.mnt.re/t/another-power-management-lever-nvme-input-wanted/4351 do you just want the output of "smartctl -c /dev/nvme0" or more than that? | 06:34 |
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| andreas-e | vagrantc: As a French saying goes, the cordwainers are always equipped with the worst shoes :) | 10:21 |
| vagrantc | andreas-e: :) | 10:26 |
| vagrantc | ACTION waves | 10:27 |
| josch | vagrantc: _o/ | 10:27 |
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| noam | hmmmm, I've got the protected boards and I still sometimes find that my classic is sometimes dead :/ | 17:45 |
| noam | Turned off at 90%, check on it ~12 hours later, no power, charges fine and says the cells were all empty :( | 17:45 |
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| minute | noam: how do you see they're all empty? if it says 0.0 at the beginning that's normal, the protection in action | 19:48 |
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| noam | minute: that's what I mean by empty though | 20:04 |
| noam | ~2.5V [I don't recall the exact number but - the normal lower-bound for cutoff] | 20:04 |
| noam | But there shouldn't have been any load | 20:04 |
| vagrantc | josch: heh. I was about to reply "works-for-me" on the linux 7.0 patchsets, only to find you've merged them. :) | 20:07 |
| josch | vagrantc: worked for you on rk3588? | 20:08 |
| vagrantc | josch: yup | 20:08 |
| josch | awesome, thank you for confirming :) | 20:09 |
| josch | vagrantc: and you are not using the dsi version of rk3588 classic, correct? | 20:09 |
| minute | noam: ok, maybe the system wasn't properly/fully turned off somehow? | 20:10 |
| noam | minute: that was my thought the first few times it happened, but I know for _sure_ this time that it was off | 20:10 |
| noam | I don't think it's very plausible that the power button got hit while it was in the bag, since that would require hitting the system key and then 1 | 20:11 |
| noam | That happening by chance seems incredibly silly | 20:11 |
| noam | Though I suppose if the system controller was woken by that button getting depressed, that might be enuogh to drain it over 12 hours? | 20:11 |
| vagrantc | josch: correct, it's got some extra adapter board instead ... one of the earlier generation rk3588 upgrades | 20:16 |
| josch | vagrantc: nice, because i cannot test that setup | 20:17 |
| minute | noam: sounds more like something else is draining the battery on the board... | 20:17 |
| noam | minute: I'm not sure what possibly could be if the device is off entirely and has nothing plugged in? The only things that should be able to be active are the system controller, no? | 20:18 |
| noam | ...and the keyboard controller, since that needs to be able to read the keys to interface? | 20:18 |
| vagrantc | nothing like a forgotten screwdriver inside the case to create surprise power draws! | 20:20 |
| noam | Ha, nothing of the sort thankfully :P | 20:20 |
| noam | No screws rattling either :) | 20:20 |
| vagrantc | i was involved with a computer recycling non-profit teaching people how to build computers ... and one of the quality assurance checks was "does it rattle when you shake it" ... and people would frequently ask "do i really need to do this" and i would pick the box up, shake it a bit, and i swear 7 out of 10 times there was something rattling around inside | 20:22 |
| vagrantc | and then they knew | 20:22 |
| josch | vagrantc: that sounds like my classic reform 9 out of 10 times XD | 20:23 |
| josch | vagrantc: one time my spouse found a tiny M2 screw that was missing from my reform bottom acrylic in the morning cereal milk XD | 20:24 |
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| vagrantc | josch: hah! | 20:26 |
| ch | probably not good for the teeth | 20:30 |
| josch | head of the screw was a bit bent so i guess it lost against the teeth | 20:32 |
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| minute | nice, suspend/wake works @ qcs6490-next | 21:32 |
| josch | wow | 21:33 |
| minute | system uses around 2W in suspend, but that's not optimized yet (i.e. system controller and keyboard not sleeping yet) | 21:33 |
| minute | but very nice that it works | 21:34 |
| josch | time to party :) | 21:35 |
| minute | :DD oh yeah, maybe @ upcoming osh summit :D | 21:35 |
| josch | qcs can now suspend/wake *and* has enough opengl for blender -- looks like a "real" pc | 21:36 |
| josch | minute: i'm also looking forward to hear how realiable it is. With intel hardware i sometimes had failed resumes. | 21:40 |
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| minute | josch: yeah, can happen, one needs to do tons of tests of course | 21:42 |
| josch | minute: do you want more than the output of "smartctl -c /dev/nvme0" for the forum thread you started? | 21:43 |
| minute | josch: also if setting the lowest operational power mode works | 21:43 |
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| josch | minute: okay, i'd set "sudo nvme set-feature /dev/nvme0 --feature-id=2 --value=2" (or whatever "value" the lowest + mode is) and then verify with "sudo nvme get-feature /dev/nvme0n1 | grep get-feature:0x02" whether it "worked", yes? | 21:45 |
| minute | josch: yes please | 21:46 |
| josch | thank you! | 21:46 |
| josch | minute: about qcs i think the next step is for you to rebase the reform-debian-packages branch you have, after that is merged i make a reform-tools release and after that we merge your reform-system-image commit | 21:47 |
| josch | the new reform-tools release will include the new machine.conf files | 21:47 |
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| minute | josch: already rebased on 7.0, but lets see if it builds :3 | 22:03 |
| minute | josch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/179 | 22:03 |
| josch | minute: your patches directories are still for 6.17 and 6.19 | 22:05 |
| josch | or is it intentional that you support older versions? | 22:06 |
| minute | josch: ah, i can delete the older ones, sure | 22:06 |
| josch | there are some patches in there that are unique for older kernel versions, i guess these patches were applied upstream and that's why they are missing? | 22:07 |
| minute | sometimes this, sometimes experiments | 22:07 |
| josch | then you could adjust the comment in build.sh which currently says that it needs 6.17 or later but should probably now say 7.0 or later | 22:07 |
| minute | done | 22:08 |
| josch | coolio! merge away once you feel it's ready -- i'll then make the reform-tools release | 22:10 |
| minute | noice | 22:11 |
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| josch | minute: i found a taifast ssd that came with my pocket reform which does not have power state "2" | 23:25 |
| josch | (see my response to your post) | 23:25 |
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