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| + oliverD (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd) | 00:58 | |
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| + swivel (~swivel@shells.gnugeneration.com) | 01:09 | |
| minute | josch: yeah, the clk thing _might_ harm power draw but not experimentally confirmed | 01:15 |
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| minute | josch: because it means unused clocks are kept on | 01:15 |
| - swivel (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~swivel@shells.gnugeneration.com) | 01:19 | |
| murphnj | I've got a but of a problem with my RK upgrade..... | 02:02 |
| murphnj | The connector on the wifi card seems different than the connector on the antenna. | 02:03 |
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| + murphnj (~murphnj@user/murphnj) | 02:04 | |
| murphnj | I can plug the new antenna into the old card, but the connector on the new (intel) wifi card seems like it is a much lower profile, and doesn't look like it will stay on. | 02:04 |
| minute | murphnj: which system? | 02:13 |
| murphnj | MNT Pocket.... | 02:16 |
| murphnj | I took a pic of the two connectors side by side. | 02:16 |
| murphnj | Should I post int he community? | 02:16 |
| minute | murphnj: ok, so you need a different antenna. was no antenna included with the wifi upgrade from us? | 02:26 |
| + swivel (~swivel@shells.gnugeneration.com) | 02:27 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~paperManu@204.244.186.187) | 02:41 | |
| + elektron (~elektron@apoc.halo.nu) | 02:42 | |
| murphnj | It was through Crowdsupply, with a (reccommended Intel AX210 WiFi card) but I also got an identical antenna from plom with my replcement imx8mp card (I had bad video, and the timing turned out poorly, I got the replacement after the upgrade) So I have 2 of the molex 219611 antenna. (Is one required to use the bluetooth on the | 02:44 |
| murphnj | card as well?) | 02:44 |
| minute | murphnj: ah ok. pocket reform version of the rk3588 upgrade included that antenna? | 02:49 |
| - elektron (QUIT: Quit: brb) (~elektron@apoc.halo.nu) | 02:50 | |
| minute | murphnj: i guess you need a similar antenna with mhf4 connector instead of mhf1. i can send you mouser part numbers (for example) tomorrow if you ping me again here (now it's almost 3am) | 02:50 |
| minute | murphnj: or if you open a ticket on support.mnt.re | 02:50 |
| + elektron (~elektron@apoc.halo.nu) | 02:50 | |
| murphnj | Sorry to bother you so late. I'll put in a ticket. | 02:53 |
| murphnj | Also having a video problem, but I'll drop that in the forums after I check it with another cable. | 02:53 |
| murphnj | Seems like the antenna mismatch would be on them, they suggested both the card, and the antenna. | 02:55 |
| murphnj | Ticket submitted. Sorry to keep you up. | 03:00 |
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| minute | no problem! | 03:15 |
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| - nocko (QUIT: Ping timeout: 255 seconds) (nock@user/nocko) | 12:10 | |
| minute | mnt reform is on the orange website today for some reason | 12:17 |
| Svp | exciting, cant wait for it to show up on the serbian orange site | 12:19 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.58.162.132) | 12:22 | |
| Svp | i've been musing on and off about designing something that is basically the mnt station but with a keyboard, in a form factor not unlike an apple //c... i feel itd work but i havent had the time at all | 12:29 |
| Svp | plus i end up with thinking about feature creep like pci-e extenders... | 12:32 |
| - midfavila (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (midfavila@otaku.sdf.org) | 12:33 | |
| orva | ACTION looking at the olkb preonic on desk and comparing to mnt station form factor | 12:34 |
| orva | Uhnuh, this is dangerously time consuming idea | 12:35 |
| minute | haha | 12:36 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 13:01 | |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 14:39 | |
| josch | minute: this is replacing the manual calls to dpkg-deb by an actual dpkg-buildpackage inside a clean build environment for qcacld2: https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/merge_requests/15 | 14:48 |
| josch | Any imx8m+ pocket reform users here who want to test the result? Here is a apt sources.list from https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/177: | 14:49 |
| josch | deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/20217/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 14:49 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 15:01 | |
| * Guest3290 -> mjw | 15:01 | |
| jfred | I went down a link rabbit hole and just realized why I wasn't able to get a serial console on my rk3588 reform. I have the serial cable mentioned here as "not fast enough" haha https://sciops.net/information/technology/reform_school/hardware/ | 15:52 |
| kfx | jfred: the absolute best reason to upgrade to motherboard 3.0 is being able to use a regular old usb-c cable for serial output without opening the machine! | 16:01 |
| jfred | Yeah, I just can't justify it since I have both mb2.0 and 2.5 lying around and both work just fine XD | 16:02 |
| jfred | and I've got the Next preordered | 16:02 |
| jfred | it is also nice having a regular old DC barrel jack as input on the older models. can charge that from damn near anything | 16:03 |
| kfx | I spent like two hours trying to get a serial connection up with that cable before I realized what was going on | 16:03 |
| kfx | glad my website helped anyone, at least | 16:04 |
| jfred | just ordered that other cable from pishop for the next time I need it, haha | 16:04 |
| Svp | i personally got the drill and added a thinkpad charging port to the side, works remarkably well and i am drowning in those power supplies | 16:56 |
| kfx | thinkpad chargers (not the square ones) (not the big round ones) work great with the older reform motherboards | 17:02 |
| kfx | from like the thinkpad 600e through x41 era | 17:02 |
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| minute | currently fixing up reform-keyboard4-fw (CI) build for pico sdk clib transition, this hadn't been done yet | 17:20 |
| + pomel0 (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 17:28 | |
| - marty (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~marty@static-23-234-103-111.cust.tzulo.com) | 17:41 | |
| + marty (~marty@static-23-234-103-111.cust.tzulo.com) | 18:03 | |
| josch | Svp: i went the other route and i built one adapter from thinkpad to barrel jack and another from thinkpad to usb-c pd :) | 18:21 |
| josch | jfred: i feel you -- it's really nice to just plug in virtually anything with a plus and a minus and it charges :D Note though, that mainboard 3.0 has two pins which also accept DC input but they are by default not exposed via a barrel jack | 18:22 |
| + hlep (~hlep@user/hlep) | 19:03 | |
| minute | made a keyboard v4 firmware release https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/releases/2026-04-21 | 19:20 |
| josch | minute: maybe scripts like "update-reform-keyboard" should be shipped by reform-tools? | 19:24 |
| Sario | I just saw the Station announcement, it's cool watching yall keep coming up with new stuff | 19:30 |
| Svp | if there is one thing i would personally change about the classic reform is using a 16:10 screen... maybe at a lower resolution because i have to squint sometimes, and a certain very widespread init system who i shall not name can't set a font to be double sized and i have to use one that is big by default | 19:31 |
| josch | Svp: we are setting the font to a larger size on the pocket reform. I don't recall that systemd made this difficult in the past. You could try adding fbcon=font:TER16x32 to your kernel cmdline arguments. | 19:33 |
| Svp | my issue is specifically with setting a font double size, which is completely unsupported on systemd's vconsole config | 19:35 |
| Svp | sometimes all one wants is some scrawl_w in their life... | 19:35 |
| josch | Svp: another thing we did in the past for pocket reform was to have in initramfs-tools/scripts/reform the following line: for c in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7; do setfont -C /dev/tty$c Uni2-TerminusBold32x16; done | 19:39 |
| josch | that way, the font was bigger independent of the kernel cmdline args | 19:39 |
| Svp | yeah setfont always works but it shouldnt have to be the solution to that problem | 19:40 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:41 | |
| josch | yes | 19:41 |
| * mjw -> Guest4174 | 19:41 | |
| * wielaard -> mjw | 19:41 | |
| Svp | that said, i do prefer lower dpi displays if i have the chance, but im aware to be in the minority overall | 19:42 |
| josch | we also have this MR which replaces it with "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" after setting FONTFACE and FONTSIZE in /etc/default/console-setup: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/97 | 19:42 |
| Svp | oh right i forgot to ask earlier so i might as well get that over with now: do i still need those old no-nvme dtb workarounds for openbsd? because (while also forgetting to run set tty fb0) i can't get the install image to boot successfully | 19:47 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:51 | |
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| + siviq (~siviq@user/siviq) | 20:11 | |
| * wielaard -> mjw | 20:18 | |
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| Svp | tried with the modified dtb and it works, so i guess whatever was up a while back hasnt quite been ironed out yet... | 20:32 |
| kfx | sbp: which modification did you make? | 20:35 |
| sbp | Svp: ^ | 20:36 |
| Svp | i didnt make any myself, i just used the dtb in the reform-boundary-uboot/openbsd-support repo | 20:37 |
| Svp | which i am somewhat sure is the one with pcie disabled so no wireless or nvme | 20:38 |
| kfx | sbp: sorry! | 20:40 |
| kfx | Svp: ok that tracks with my experience | 20:40 |
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| josch | minute: I saw you did quite a bit more than just "keyboard v4 firmware release" -- nice changes, looks good! | 20:59 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@142.243.253.17) | 21:06 | |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 21:50 | |
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| minute | josch: thanks! merged some older MRs too | 22:09 |
| josch | even a super ancient one 0o | 22:09 |
| minute | i wonder if debian builds kicad without wayland support | 22:16 |
| kfx | bin/kicad links to lots of Xorg stuff | 22:21 |
| kfx | I'll test it | 22:21 |
| josch | maybe -- i see nothing wayland-ish in its build-dependencies. Is anything obviously missing from its cmake options? https://sources.debian.org/src/kicad/10.0.1%2Bdfsg-1/debian/rules#L42 | 22:21 |
| minute | josch: right, then that's a newer option than 10.0 | 22:23 |
| kfx | launched using xwayland here | 22:23 |
| minute | https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt?ref_type=heads#L130 | 22:23 |
| kfx | it does have wayland libraries linked in the binary though | 22:23 |
| kfx | yep it refuses to launch if xwayland is disabled | 22:27 |
| kfx | good ol' wxwidgets | 22:27 |
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| + Admin123456 (~Adminrg4f@2405:4803:c66c:72c0:3d23:408c:9d36:2536) | 22:53 | |
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| josch | minute: unfortunately there was a bug in my qcacld2 MR. Fix here: https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/merge_requests/16 | 23:40 |
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| josch | minute, kfx: kicad in debian might require xwayland but it links against libwayland-client.so and the Debian build log shows that -DKICAD_WAYLAND is getting passed | 23:50 |
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