| josch | it happens in build-all.sh | 00:00 |
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| minute | josch: ah, i thought that was used only for CI | 00:00 |
| josch | you can run it locally without gitlab CI as well | 00:00 |
| josch | when you build locally you can pass any value to cmake -DKBD_HID_FW_REV=.... | 00:01 |
| josch | maybe the problem is coupling the api version to the keyboard firmware version string. This limits the version that user's custom builds can have. Should the information about what the keyboard supports not be transported independent on the version string? Overloading the version with this meaning works well if there is a single vendor (and then you have predictable versioning) but not if anybody can | 00:05 |
| josch | flash anything they want, no? | 00:05 |
| minute | josch: yes, i agree. we should decouple it. for v3 i anyway need to shorten/shuffle around the fw strings because byte 8 is now taken by the checksum | 00:06 |
| josch | minute: in any case, i think for now, your fix (not treating small version numbers as v3) seems to be exactly what fixes the issue because if the version string cannot be parsed, it will probably come back as zero or something. | 00:07 |
| minute | josch: thanks for confirming! | 00:09 |
| josch | yet another area where the pocket beats the classic: flashing keyboard and sysctl is just a breeze on the pocket thanks to fwupd | 00:14 |
| minute | josch: oh yeah | 00:20 |
| minute | buuut... i just noticed, and still need to measure, that my classic boots and esp. gets to gdm faster than my pocket, even if they both have rk3588. hm. | 00:21 |
| josch | (and the pocket is connected to power?) | 00:23 |
| josch | (asking because i recently wanted to play mario kart and even after staring at the thing for half an hour my brain did not connect the fact that it was on battery power to the graphics suddendly being a total slide show :D) | 00:27 |
| - cli (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~m-vsauiy@user/cli) | 00:36 | |
| minute | josch: oh :D | 00:40 |
| minute | gdm start on my pocket takes around 10-15 seconds on my pocket and 4 seconds on my reform (but just counted in my head, no precise measurement) | 00:49 |
| minute | yeah, on battery or not makes no difference | 00:51 |
| + oliverD (~Thunderbi@user/oliverd) | 00:54 | |
| minute | there's some weirdness about an "fstrim" process since a while | 00:54 |
| minute | there's an fstrim process in D state (uninterruptible sleep?) | 00:55 |
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| minute | ah the disk is just very slow somehow | 00:59 |
| minute | sudo apt remove systemd-userdbd takes a long time in "Reading database" | 01:00 |
| minute | ok, encrypted nvme read speed (gnoem disks) is 2.1GB/s on my classic, and around 400MB/s on my pocket | 01:05 |
| minute | ah well i guess that's just pcie gen 2 x1 | 01:09 |
| minute | but also, classic reform is still on kernel 6.17.8. | 01:10 |
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| minute | hm, either it's pocket mb2.0 power issues for the ssd, or that ssd has developed some issues after all | 01:23 |
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| josch | minute: i feel (no measurements) that gdm came up much quicker about a year ago (and there is even a forum thread where somebody laments the same thing) and it is odd that it takes so many seconds of "idling" for a simple textbox for the username to show up on the screen... "modern" guis i guess... | 06:46 |
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| + cli (~m-vsauiy@user/cli) | 07:04 | |
| henesy | kfx minute - thx for the screen reco | 07:05 |
| josch | minute: linux 7.0 is out and collabora has a new patch to slow down emmc -- is that interesting for us? https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux/-/commit/6ba621e7766d5c1db3b5d7a82f874049c46f0ba6 | 07:09 |
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| josch | sigrid: good news! The commits from Detlev Casanova's branch add-vdpu381-and-383-to-rkvdec-v9 got to be part of Linux 7.0 :) | 09:59 |
| + midfavila (midfavila@otaku.sdf.org) | 10:06 | |
| midfavila | does anyone know if there are status updates on bnys' group buy? nothin since the start of march | 10:07 |
| midfavila | i would be really interested in an anodised bottom plate since my acrylic one is pretty beat up | 10:08 |
| midfavila | alternatively i might just pay for one from a local place depending on the cost... | 10:08 |
| midfavila | i have to wonder if that would ever be an optional upgrade MNT would sell | 10:09 |
| midfavila | i would pay for an alu bottom plate | 10:10 |
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| sigrid | josch: amazing | 13:37 |
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| josch | minute: linux 7.0 is in Debian experimental. Could you please merge https://source.mnt.re/reform/qcacld2/-/merge_requests/14 so that I can finalize https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/175 | 14:50 |
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| minute | josch: thanks for the MRs! qcacld merged | 19:19 |
| minute | josch: related: we just discussed here recently that it might save us a looot of trouble to build qcacld2 and especially reform2-lpc as part of the kernel package... i'm sure we discussed this back in the day but don't remember why we didn't do that | 19:20 |
| minute | josch: this rings a bell, but it's for rock5b, not for rk3588 in general. not sure if that applies to firefly... did anyone have corruption issues with emmc yet? | 19:22 |
| minute | josch: sorry, link for the last message: https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux/-/commit/6ba621e7766d5c1db3b5d7a82f874049c46f0ba6 | 19:23 |
| minute | midfavila: i think the main issue about the plate is the thickness. it should be reduced/hollowed out a bit vs the acrylic plate, otherwise it's super heavy | 19:23 |
| midfavila | hmm. that's fair. | 19:24 |
| midfavila | i don't mind the chunkiness though :D | 19:24 |
| midfavila | it's reassuring | 19:24 |
| minute | midfavila: so someone needs to open a CAD program and do it. the ordering/manufacturing is easy | 19:24 |
| minute | midfavila: if you hollowed it out a bit from the inside it would look the same on the outside | 19:24 |
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| + marty (~marty@146.70.168.182) | 19:29 | |
| kfx | sigrid and I made a direct patch for the lpc driver https://git.sr.ht/~ft/aports/tree/reform/item/community/linux-rk3588/9002-add-reform-lpc.patch | 19:30 |
| kfx | controlled with CONFIG_EC_REFORM2_LPC in the config | 19:30 |
| midfavila | minute: yeah makes sense | 19:30 |
| midfavila | maybe i'll get a local machine shop to see if they can mill a plate for me then | 19:31 |
| midfavila | be a good little weekend project | 19:31 |
| kfx | I had a friend mill me a bottom panel from G10 (pcb material) and it works pretty great | 19:31 |
| midfavila | nice :D | 19:32 |
| sigrid | I wanna try wood for this | 19:33 |
| midfavila | oo that'd be cool | 19:33 |
| midfavila | you could use an iron to burn some cool patterns into it or something | 19:34 |
| minute | https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt-research/mnt-station | 19:36 |
| minute | kfx: awesome! that's kinda what we need, but perhaps it could be dynamically picked from the reform-tools repo cc josch | 19:37 |
| midfavila | holy moly new product | 19:37 |
| midfavila | very cool | 19:37 |
| minute | yeah has been gestating for a longer time on and off | 19:37 |
| wickedshell | minute: was just looking at that, any chance it will launch (or later be available) sans processor module? For those who have old modules to drop in it would be nice. (But maybe too niche for crowdsupply campaign?) | 19:38 |
| midfavila | i've been watching, very excited for it | 19:38 |
| minute | wickedshell: yes without mainboard even | 19:38 |
| wickedshell | minute: excellent! <3 | 19:38 |
| midfavila | i've been meaning to get a replacement mobo for my laptop reform since the barrel jack is starting to go so i can put that one in the desktop enclosure and fiddle around with it | 19:38 |
| minute | wickedshell: there will be case, mb, module separately i think | 19:38 |
| midfavila | get an LS1028a and figure out how to hook up an external kepler card or whatever the last blobless cards nouveau supports were based on... nice little setup | 19:39 |
| + pomel0 (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 19:45 | |
| minute | midfavila: yup! | 19:50 |
| - mark_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 20:10 | |
| f_ | very exciting :D | 20:19 |
| midfavila | last thing i'll need to totally ditch my phone and other proprietary hardware and software forever would be something like sqfmi's beepy... well, with a different SoM, but still | 20:27 |
| midfavila | unfortunately they're in some sort of limbo status and the derivatives on the market have been closed, in violation of the GPL and CERN OHW | 20:28 |
| midfavila | :\ | 20:28 |
| f_ | just install mainline linux :p | 20:29 |
| midfavila | it's the principle of the matter >:c | 20:30 |
| midfavila | i won't give money to plagiarists and thieves | 20:31 |
| midfavila | also the kernel needs special drives for some of the input devices and those were modified so i can't really install mainline unfortunately | 20:31 |
| midfavila | drivers even wah | 20:31 |
| f_ | I mean, you have a phone already? | 20:36 |
| midfavila | a second-hand blackberry that's twelve years old :p | 20:37 |
| f_ | neat :D | 20:38 |
| midfavila | yeah it's an old passport that a friend of mine had laying around at the time. hardware is still fine, software is just too locked down to be useful | 20:39 |
| midfavila | at least for some things | 20:39 |
| midfavila | for quick notes or an on the go ssh session or quickly checking wikipedia or something like that it's fine. | 20:39 |
| minute | midfavila: i'm in a similar boat, that's why we're working on that 7 inch tablet :D | 20:48 |
| midfavila | yeah i saw that, it looks really cool | 20:50 |
| midfavila | i'm needing something a bit smaller though, and with a thumb board, hence sqfmi's beepy | 20:51 |
| midfavila | they seem to be the most compact, even if there are other drawbacks | 20:51 |
| f_ | 7 inch is a bit small these days I'd say | 20:52 |
| f_ | one of the early tablets I ever used was 7 inch :D | 20:52 |
| minute | yeah it's meant to fit in a roomy pants pocket or jacket pocket :D | 20:52 |
| f_ | and w/modem? | 20:53 |
| minute | maybe more a phablet | 20:53 |
| midfavila | see i'm a total scatterbrain and i'm always losing stuff so i have this little bag i clip on my belt | 20:53 |
| minute | modem pluggable | 20:53 |
| f_ | neat! | 20:53 |
| midfavila | and i just keep everything i need in that | 20:53 |
| midfavila | unfortunately even the larger pocket is too small for a 7" device | 20:53 |
| f_ | by the way I love how you're recycling on existing hardware designs rather than starting from scratch | 20:53 |
| f_ | well. Manufacturers often don't start from scratch for new devices, but it feels like they're doing a brand new thing by copy-pasting | 20:54 |
| minute | f_: thx! i would like to converge things even more but that can also get complicated, and sometimes it's interesting to have different approaches compete in the field (for example, we have 3 different battery charging architectures now lol) | 20:54 |
| f_ | it doesn't feel like it's like an MNT Reform transformed into a tablet | 20:54 |
| f_ | minute: with that I also really love the MNT Station idea, especially as someone who sometimes recycles old desktop computers to use as servers :D | 20:55 |
| minute | f_: yay! | 20:55 |
| f_ | and as of late it seems I'm also now recycling old android junk | 20:57 |
| f_ | really, keep it up! | 20:57 |
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| minute | thx! | 20:58 |
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| josch | minute: I can add sigrid's patch to the kernel build but i wonder how the migration path would look like for users who have the dkms module installed right now. | 21:31 |
| josch | maybe the dkms module could be changed to gracefully refuse to load if EC_REFORM2_LPC is not "n"? | 21:32 |
| midfavila | https://github.com/antmicro/arvsom | 21:36 |
| midfavila | potentially interesting | 21:36 |
| midfavila | starfive jh7110-based cm-4 compatible som | 21:37 |
| midfavila | official website says it's still wip but who knows if it's still being worked on with the repo's last commit being a while ago... | 21:38 |
| minute | josch: don't add it yet. there will be a new version with different compatible soon-ish (kcxt was working on refactoring it a bit) | 21:40 |
| minute | midfavila: i have a banapi risc-v cm5 som here, it gets me to uboot in reform | 21:40 |
| minute | bananapi even | 21:40 |
| midfavila | neat :D | 21:40 |
| minute | but didn't have time to explore further | 21:41 |
| minute | just can say it works electrically :D | 21:41 |
| midfavila | i've been fiddling with a D1 in another device i have and aside from X11 being a bit slow it's a perfectly capable little guy | 21:41 |
| midfavila | makes me happy | 21:41 |
| orva | Those 7inch tablets have been only ones that I have liked. Well, only tablets I have used are ones I got from previous employer, one Nexus 7 Android one and then some iPad years later | 21:57 |
| orva | The 7inch form factor was actually usable with one hand and really nice size for reading books / manga | 21:58 |
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| minute | orva: yeah those are the kind of ideas for use cases i also have :D | 22:38 |
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