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| elb` | MartiniMoe: I did a build and preview video when I put it together in August 2025 (although I think I didn't get around to publishing it until rather later): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBGJ8BSDBmw | 00:06 |
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| josch | minute: which mesa git commit did you build and have installed? | 00:07 |
| minute | josch: latest :D | 00:08 |
| minute | lmao > CONFIG_DRM_PANIC_SCREEN_QR_CODE_URL="https://deb.li/panic#" | 00:08 |
| minute | josch: 26.1.something | 00:09 |
| josch | minute: blender --gpu-backend=vulkan still segfaults but starting with LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 allows it to start and lets me select vulkan as the backend and then i can start without LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 | 00:31 |
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| josch | so i have this now https://mister-muffin.de/p/EXhe.png but there seems to be noticable stutter when moving around in the viewport even with nothing in it but the gray cube | 00:38 |
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| minute | josch: because you're on battery and the GPU is throttled | 01:23 |
| minute | josch: cool that it works though! display scale is huge :D | 01:23 |
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| josch | wow crazy that the gpu throttling is *noticable* i had no idea :D | 07:08 |
| josch | you can see i never do gpu stuff XD | 07:08 |
| josch | is the scale different for you? this is a system image with no changes to the defaults | 07:09 |
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| MartiniMoe | elb`: thanks, that's cool! | 07:19 |
| + xktr (~xktr@user/xktr) | 07:32 | |
| josch | somebody in #blender just said that the default backend will probably switch to vulkan in 5.1 | 07:59 |
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| josch | minute: I added another patch to the blender branch in reform-debian-packages switching the default render backend from opengl to vulkan. Now blender starts out-of-the-box without first having to use LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 and then changing the backend in the settings. New apt sources.list entry is: | 09:57 |
| josch | deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/19283/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 09:57 |
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| josch | minute: linux 6.19 boots fine on ls1028a | 11:39 |
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| siviq | josch My wild guess is, your scale is fine. But you use the "Large Text" option instead? :) | 12:42 |
| siviq | I'm using that option and it helps reduce eye strain/fatigue. And sometimes make things look 'bit different' :D | 12:46 |
| josch | siviq: hm? what is the context of your last messages? | 13:20 |
| siviq | josch I meant, that I'm using the "Large Text" option in Debian, which helps me with readability of the text, but sometimes messes with apps scale/view. | 13:28 |
| siviq | Been reading the chat from earlier today, there was mentioning for scale of the "Blender" of the screenshot you provided. | 13:33 |
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| minute | josch: ok very good to hear @ ls1028a | 15:06 |
| minute | josch: ahh that's awesome @ default backend, didn't know that was possible! thank you! | 15:06 |
| minute | josch: siviq: blender has it's own UI scale setting as a percentage | 15:07 |
| minute | so you don't need a debian setting for that | 15:07 |
| MartiniMoe | How long does compiling the kernel roughly take on rk3588? :D | 16:08 |
| MartiniMoe | Its building but I need to catch a train soon and am afraid of overheating if I put it in my backpack like this ^^ | 16:09 |
| josch | MartiniMoe: it depends on the kernel config you chose -- i recently built a bootable kernel for the rk3588 pocket reform in 20 minutes on the pocket reform | 16:53 |
| josch | MartiniMoe: you can pause the build by hitting ctrl+z | 16:53 |
| josch | MartiniMoe: the rk3588 will automatically throttle to prevent overheating -- i've had situations where i've put my pocket reform into the backpack while it was doing stuff accidentally and it survived | 16:54 |
| + wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 16:54 | |
| MartiniMoe | josch: thanks, that really helpful to know :) for now I shut it down to be safe ^^ | 17:02 |
| josch | MartiniMoe: if you built the kernel without isolation with "make" you can just resume your build later from where it started | 17:07 |
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| MartiniMoe | josch: i built with "nixos-install". We will see if it can continue or starts fresh :D | 17:13 |
| josch | okay! | 17:15 |
| eery | Is it a known software problem on A311D where the sdio/mdio buses have issues, or am I looking at hardware failure? | 17:17 |
| minute | eery: what exactly is happening? | 17:22 |
| eery | minute: For a period of time (a few days?) just wifi dropped off, the kernel reported lots of checksum failures on sdio, now ethernet is also dead and complaining about not being able to attach the PHY -- I reseated the SOM but no luck | 17:24 |
| eery | since the CRC errors started popping up out of nowhere, it feels like a hardware issue, but couldn't hurt to check if it's a known thing haha | 17:28 |
| + aelius (~aelius@user/aelius) | 17:37 | |
| minute | eery: those sound like issues we had in the beginning that were fixed with .dts updates... | 17:38 |
| minute | eery: anything special about your system? | 17:39 |
| - jackhill (QUIT: Ping timeout: 248 seconds) (~jackhill@kalessin.dragonsnail.net) | 17:40 | |
| eery | minute: not that I'm aware of, I did do an upgrade before the ethernet dropped, so the kernel and boot stuff should all be current -- I'll try a new system image and see if that helps | 17:43 |
| eery | it's also possible I screwed up my kernel arguments a while back when debugging the nvme issue, in which case I apologize in advance | 17:45 |
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| josch | eery: the ethernet problem is fixed with 6.19 | 17:50 |
| josch | eery: to check if things are "current" you can have a look at the output of reform-check | 17:51 |
| josch | reform-check tries to look into places where "surprises" are usually found | 17:51 |
| - wielaard (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 17:54 | |
| eery | josch: apt dist-upgrade only pulled 6.18, what would I do to get 6.19? | 17:57 |
| josch | eery: it's this merge request which needs to get merged before 6.19 ends up in the official repos: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/166 | 17:58 |
| josch | eery: if you want to try it out before that happens you can add this line to your apt sources.list: | 17:58 |
| josch | deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/19088/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 17:58 |
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| eery | josch: Thank you! still getting the "cannot attach to PHY (error: -ENODEV)" error on 6.19, I'll see if a fresh SD card has the errors. At least there are no more nvme problems :) | 18:19 |
| josch | eery: wait, your ethernet does *not* work with 6.19? | 18:22 |
| eery | josch: yeah, same error -- the MAC driver is complaining it can't see the PHY. I'm gonna test a few system images to make sure that it works with older kernels and isn't just a failing connection or power regulator or something | 18:25 |
| josch | okay, thank you i shall test this again on my machine | 18:27 |
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| eery | josch: yeah, on a fresh SD card flashed with a system image, it kernel panics immediately after trying to load wifi, crashing in the interrupt handler for SDIO. I think the chip has finally given out lol | 19:47 |
| eery | time to dig out the old imx8mq and see if it'll wake up | 19:49 |
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| josch | minute, eery: correction: ethernet is *not* fixed on a311d with 6.19, this is me replicating the workarounds reform-hw-setup performs with the dmesg output of the failing command: https://mister-muffin.de/p/RAh4.txt | 23:03 |
| + siviq (~siviq@user/siviq) | 23:14 | |
| josch | minute: if you don't have any hunch i will just bisect as i originally had intended. No idea why i thought this had been fixed in 6.19 -- maybe i tested wrongly or maybe the issue is flaky? | 23:16 |
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| reform23876 | Hi, I just got my pocket reform back from a repair and my sources.list.d seems to be out of date, apt update is throwing an error. Can anyone link to what should be in that folder? | 23:28 |
| josch | reform23876: what error does apt throw? | 23:29 |
| josch | reform23876: if you run "sudo reform-check" it will show you error messages if your sources.list is wrong | 23:29 |
| josch | your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mntre.sources should look like this: https://mister-muffin.de/p/N338.txt | 23:30 |
| bremner | ooc, why does the check need to run as root? | 23:30 |
| reform23876 | thanks! | 23:31 |
| josch | bremner: i can create a list of reasons for you or you read the script to see where it accesses things that only root is allowed to access | 23:32 |
| josch | for example, if i just remove the check for the root user and run it as my normal user i get: | 23:33 |
| josch | /run/lock/lvm/P_global:aux: open failed: Permission denied | 23:33 |
| bremner | not _that much_ curiousity, don't worry about it | 23:33 |
| bremner | :P | 23:33 |
| reform23876 | I'm getting | 23:36 |
| reform23876 | an error related to mnt-research.sources | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | # Modernized from /etc/apt/sources.list | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | Types: deb | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | URIs: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/11212/artifacts/raw/repo/ | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | Suites: reform | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | Components: main | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | Signed-By: | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | Trusted: yes | 23:37 |
| reform23876 | 404 on that URI | 23:37 |
| josch | reform23876: yes, that's not the correct url | 23:38 |
| josch | you should have: | 23:38 |
| josch | URIs: https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo | 23:38 |
| reform23876 | oh okay so I have mntre.sources with that, i'm guessing mnt-research.sources is deprecated then? | 23:38 |
| josch | mnt-research.sources is not a filename which was created by MNT tools -- you must've created that one yourself? | 23:40 |
| reform23876 | huh, I don't remember doing that, but okay, it's gone | 23:42 |
| reform23876 | then I have a few other files in here that are missing Signed By... again, I don't remember putting them here, but it's possible. If I don't need them I'll just get rid | 23:43 |
| josch | reform23876: you can share what you have in there but you should do that in a pastebin | 23:45 |
| reform23876 | actually says I'm missing Signed By in mntre.sources | 23:45 |
| josch | reform23876: and make sure that you put the correct sources.list inside (see my link above) | 23:45 |
| josch | (reform-tools will complain if you have the wrong ones) | 23:46 |
| reform23876 | reform-check does not mention sources | 23:48 |
| reform23876 | the URI is as above | 23:48 |
| reform23876 | I have the following notices | 23:48 |
| reform23876 | Notice: Missing Signed-By in the sources.list(5) entry for 'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/m-grant-prg/Debian_Testing' | 23:49 |
| reform23876 | Notice: Missing Signed-By in the sources.list(5) entry for 'https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo' | 23:49 |
| josch | reform23876: you get this from apt or from reform-check? | 23:50 |
| reform23876 | apt | 23:50 |
| reform23876 | reform-check definitely doesn't mention sources | 23:50 |
| josch | apt is telling you that the repository behind https://mntre.com/reform-debian-repo is not signed and that is correct | 23:51 |
| josch | since there is no signature, there can be no Signed-By entry | 23:51 |
| josch | you have an empty Signed-By in yours which does not make it better | 23:51 |
| reform23876 | I don't have a Signed-By entry. oh well, if it's not a problem, that's fine | 23:52 |
| reform23876 | thanks for your help | 23:52 |
| josch | reform23876: what you pasted above contained an empty Signed-By: | 23:53 |
| reform23876 | yeah but that was the weird mnt-research.sources which I deleted now. mntre.sources doesn't have a signed-by and it's still giving this complaint | 23:54 |
| josch | yes, but there is nothing else to do than to ignore it | 23:55 |
| josch | it's only a "Notice" not a warning or error by apt | 23:55 |
| reform23876 | okay, no problem then, thank you | 23:57 |
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