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| ch | minute: yeah they are different :( seems like a place of measurent + adc issue? | 01:23 |
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| minute | ch: yeah, need to confirm with another instrument soon. | 01:25 |
| minute | ch: josch: but, some good news https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/163 | 01:26 |
| minute | (it's possible that this will mangle the last character of firmware strings though, might need to split that into 2 responses) | 01:27 |
| elb` | josch: minute: I've been running 6.19 for a couple of weeks, I don't notice any particular regressions from 6.18 (nor do I notice any particular benefits) | 01:32 |
| elb` | I've used HDMI with an external monitor and the more-or-less complicated projector setup in the lecture halls on campus | 01:32 |
| minute | elb`: nice, thanks | 01:33 |
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| josch | minute: nice, would you like me to do the clang-format and then merge? | 09:38 |
| josch | minute: i also worked around the openexr issue by building blender with libraries from 2026-03-12. You can now try to put this into your apt sources.list: | 09:41 |
| josch | deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/19228/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 09:41 |
| josch | if that doesn't work we can start comparing cmake options | 09:41 |
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| pengu1nx | What do you guys do with your MNT reforms? They're mostly for hardware tinkering or light work aren't they? | 10:44 |
| josch | pengu1nx: my reform has been my only computer since 2021 so i do everything with it that i do with computers | 10:52 |
| pengu1nx | What do you do with them? I assume nothing GPU intense? | 10:53 |
| josch | pengu1nx: i don't do CAD modelling, no | 10:53 |
| pengu1nx | Do you use an extra screen with it? | 10:54 |
| josch | pengu1nx: no, but quite a few people do. I don't have a TFT display at home other than our TV. | 10:55 |
| pengu1nx | why TFT? | 10:56 |
| josch | because they are much slimmer than CRT monitors | 11:00 |
| josch | at some point i wanted to buy a portable (battery powered) monitor for use with the pocket reform when i'm travelling | 11:02 |
| rick_ | pengu1nx its my daily driver since i got in i september | 11:10 |
| rick_ | and i have an external monitor atteched and use the one on the pocket as a second screen. for stuff like this chat here ^^ | 11:11 |
| rick_ | freecad also works fine.. but true.. if i need more power (which happens sometime) i connect to my workstation in my rack ^^ | 11:11 |
| rick_ | but its like.. once a week? i'm quite happy with the power of my pocket ^^ | 11:12 |
| pengu1nx | josch, yeah no doubt they're smaller than crt, but there's more than those 2 types of monitors | 11:14 |
| pengu1nx | depending on the work, a monitor with some sort of HDR might be nice, though I guess the support isn't necessarily that good, I believe | 11:15 |
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| minute | josch: yes to the merge question, thank you! and about blender, very cool stuff, also thank you and will test! | 13:13 |
| minute | pengu1nx: i use a dell 27 inch 1440p 120hz external monitor at home on my pocket reform, where it's my main computer. | 13:14 |
| minute | pengu1nx: i use it mainly for web and chats (firefox, signal, fractal), coding (emacs with eglot/lsp for typescript, C/C++, rust, python), some graphics/photo stuff, some gaming (mostly retro/indie), music, media player | 13:17 |
| minute | and ofc email, calendar, planify, now gnucash as well :D | 13:18 |
| josch | thank you! done and set to auto-merge | 13:18 |
| minute | oh and of course kicad | 13:18 |
| minute | freecad also works quite well | 13:18 |
| minute | rick_: how do you connect to your workstation? vnc, waypipe, ...? | 13:44 |
| minute | josch: blender starts! it seems to use xwayland though | 13:54 |
| minute | (i know because i have a custom hacked xwayland that has a particular graphics glitch) | 13:55 |
| minute | josch: it seems like only the X11 backend is enabled? | 13:55 |
| minute | josch: performance under xwayland is degraded. but this build is already a very good first shot, as it does work | 13:56 |
| minute | josch: could you enable the following CMake options: WITH_GHOST_WAYLAND, WITH_GHOST_WAYLAND_DYNLOAD, WITH_GHOST_WAYLAND_LIBDECOR ? | 13:58 |
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| rick_ | minute currently via pikvm i already had. works great. if you go into fullscreen you nearlvy have an desktop like expirince | 14:05 |
| rick_ | *experience | 14:05 |
| rick_ | but since i want to have another proxmox node, i might switch to vnc.. want to put my workstation stuff as an vm onto the proxmox | 14:08 |
| rick_ | or is waypipe a more modern option? | 14:08 |
| josch | minute: reading the build log the problem is: | 14:08 |
| josch | -- wayland-protocols not found, disabling WITH_GHOST_WAYLAND | 14:08 |
| josch | i'll add your build options and wayland-protocols as a build-dep and try again | 14:09 |
| josch | minute: in your own build log you can find all build options right after: | 14:11 |
| josch | Blender Configuration | 14:11 |
| josch | ===================== | 14:11 |
| josch | this is what blender was built with in case you see something else that needs changing: https://mister-muffin.de/p/tgpI.txt | 14:12 |
| minute | rick_: in my experience at least on LAN, waypipe should give you better perf | 14:13 |
| minute | (over fast wi-fi, too) | 14:13 |
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| josch | minute: new config looks like you wanted it: https://mister-muffin.de/p/uAyz.txt | 14:30 |
| minute | josch: that looks good, many thanks! | 14:31 |
| josch | if this works i'm going to send the missing wayland-protocols build dependency to debian package maintainers -- that's a simple fix :) | 14:34 |
| minute | josch: yeah | 14:36 |
| rick_ | minute thanks, gonna check it out ^^ | 15:01 |
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| josch | minute: new sources.list entry for your blender build: | 15:17 |
| josch | deb [trusted=yes arch=arm64] https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/jobs/19240/artifacts/raw/repo reform main | 15:18 |
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| siviq | pengu1nx do you own MNT device or perhaps planning to get one? If you want to check if people run specific software, you can ask here. Or even better, at the community website: https://community.mnt.re/ and reach broader audience. | 16:49 |
| pengu1nx | Maybe one day when I have money and need a new laptop, just interested. Thanks | 16:52 |
| siviq | pengu1nx :) Always good first to collect intel and then make educated choice. I did the same year ago, then ordered one couple months ago. | 17:07 |
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| pengu1nx | Maybe after I finish school and get a job xD | 17:13 |
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| josch | uuuh nice: Accepted linux 6.19.6-2~bpo13+1 (source) into stable-backports | 19:37 |
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| minute | josch: awesome, thanks, gonna test now | 23:44 |
| minute | josch: it works! the window is undecorated which is no problem for me because i use the super+mouse click etc shortcuts for resizing, but i wanna check why it's actually not using libdecor, i got the same log message from my own build: > Couldn't open plugin directory: No such file or directory > No plugins found, falling back on no decorations | 23:59 |
| minute | hm, this string is not in the blender source code | 23:59 |
| minute | maybe the error is from libdecor | 23:59 |
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