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| gsora | minute: ever seen anything like this? https://files.catbox.moe/0p2duv.jpg | 11:08 |
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| minute | survived the surgery, show can go on | 13:20 |
| minute | (after i'm off these drugs etc) | 13:20 |
| siviq | Congrats, take time to rest. | 13:21 |
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| josch | minute: wohooo! Sounds like everything went well, glad to hear! \o/ | 13:36 |
| minute | thxx | 13:37 |
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| cararemixed | <3 Happy to hear. Rest up! | 13:59 |
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| vkoskiv | Sounds like good news, get plenty of rest now :] | 14:10 |
| gsora | oh didn't know you had surgery going on! sorry for the highlight, have a speedy recovery! | 14:15 |
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| gsora | i never noticed how powerful the headphone jack is on the reform classic! | 16:22 |
| josch | gordon1: okay, i think i found a source-able trackpoint module: https://www.sprintek.com/en/products/pointing_stick/SK8707-01.aspx | 16:35 |
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| josch | gordon1: folks have created adapter pcbs to connect that one with a rp2040: https://docs.holykeebs.com/guides/trackpoint-module/ | 16:35 |
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| josch | i do not see any mechanical specs of the SK8707-01 so i guess i just have to get one and measure | 16:36 |
| gordon1 | nice, i think the split version would be more useful to mount on the back of the keyboard | 16:37 |
| gordon1 | (and tbh i like this version of the ortho split more, and i'm pretty sure there is a gap you could get if you just fill the space of classic reform with 1u keycaps) | 16:38 |
| gordon1 | (i.e. without modifying any keycaps for it | 16:38 |
| gordon1 | ) | 16:38 |
| gordon1 | ACTION wants an ortho keyboard for his reform | 16:39 |
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| + spew (~spew@user/spew) | 16:47 | |
| josch | you mean the variant they call "detached"? Yes, that's the one i was eying. I'm concerned though whether the cube thing in the middle is too large for the whole that we have right now. Need to measure. Meh let me just drop them a mail, maybe they have measurements for me. :) | 17:03 |
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| gordon1 | i mean the pictures from your link, there seems to be a raiser that goes in between of two halfs of the keyboard (or at least that's my interpretation), and looking at this topic https://community.mnt.re/t/ortholinear-keyboard-kit/337 there is some gap in between halfs, though yes, you cannot have it on top of the pcb because gap is too narrow, but probably enough to have a stick poking through | 17:13 |
| cwebber | mmmmeow | 17:16 |
| cwebber | hi | 17:16 |
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| josch | gordon1: i think the stacked configuration from the photos is too thick and we need something more planar. But right now my biggest concern is the cube on the sensor whether that one fits through the hole. Lets see what they answer to my mail. | 18:17 |
| josch | cwebber: _o/ | 18:17 |
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| cwebber | so what's the chance we'll eventually get the ability to add a second hdmi output eventually :> | 18:36 |
| cwebber | (I imagine it's not trivial or we'd have it) | 18:36 |
| josch | cwebber: there is another hdmi connector on the rcore board, no? | 18:36 |
| cwebber | is there? | 18:37 |
| cwebber | waitaminute | 18:38 |
| cwebber | can you do hdmi out via usb-c or something? | 18:38 |
| josch | cwebber: no, i mean what i highlighted in green here in kicad: https://mister-muffin.de/p/CQBX.png | 18:40 |
| cwebber | oic | 18:41 |
| cwebber | so not exposed basically | 18:41 |
| cwebber | that's interesting. has anyone tried exposing it? | 18:41 |
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| josch | gordon1: i got a reply! We actually want the M2 screw stick i think! :) https://mister-muffin.de/p/9uHR.pdf | 19:15 |
| gordon1 | well, that's easy | 19:16 |
| josch | yes :) | 19:16 |
| gordon1 | actually cutout can be 4.9mm for the bottom thicker part with some spacers so its top will be flush with top of the pcb | 19:18 |
| josch | gordon1: in february i have money to spend again and get SK8707-01-005 and SK8707-01-008 to have a spare unit to experiment and assess how these feel mechanically | 19:26 |
| gordon1 | cool | 19:28 |
| josch | and i'd interface with that with a rp2040 with qmk or similar i think | 19:28 |
| josch | i also think that using the sprintek module is a good idea because it's easier to source than having to rescue old thinkpad keyboards out of the dumpster... | 19:29 |
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| gordon1 | well i have lifetime supply of broken thinkpad keyboards, but yes | 19:32 |
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| elb | cwebber: my understanding of getting that output ot usb c is that the problem is that it's _HDMI_, not Display Port | 20:06 |
| elb | ... but I for one would very much like display port over usb C, and would even more so like full-size HDMI. I've been daily driving my pocket reform for teaching for a semester, and it's fantastic, but it's a little bit of friction to carry around the micro-HDMI-to-big-boy-HDMI dongle | 20:07 |
| elb | personally I'd happily give up the Ethernet port for that (I don't have a dongle for it, anyway) | 20:08 |
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| elb | I've considered making an I/O board for the other side with an HDMI port for the rcore HDMI output, but I _also_ would like to swithc to Intel Wi-Fi on the new headphone board, and at some point there's only so man yplaces to put connectors | 20:09 |
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| minute | looks like sdcard sdhci leaks swiotlb buffers like there's no tomorrow on rockchip | 22:03 |
| minute | at least on 6.17.8 | 22:03 |
| minute | > sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/swiotlb/io_tlb_used | 22:03 |
| minute | > 3717 | 22:03 |
| minute | note that the microsd is already ejected | 22:04 |
| minute | i copied like 10 GB of video files from sd card with nautilus which ended up bringing down the system because dmesg was absolutely flooded with swiotlb is full backtraces | 22:04 |
| minute | and i have swiotlb=65535 in my kernel commandline :D | 22:05 |
| gordon1 | works fine here on 6.18.3, copied 300 mb file now, io_tlb_used went up to 260, then dropped back to 4 after copying finished | 22:07 |
| minute | gordon1: thanks for testing that! very interesting | 22:08 |
| minute | gordon1: will update the next to 6.18 once i'm back in berlin | 22:09 |
| gordon1 | it dropped to 4 even before umounting btw | 22:09 |
| minute | ah yes, that's how it should be | 22:09 |
| gordon1 | that reminds me, i need to compile 6.18.4 | 22:09 |
| jfred | I still haven't gotten around to connecting a serial console to run dmesg on my rk3588 reform while I do some sdcard writes, but my system has hung a bunch lately while trying to flash cards. Could be the same thing? | 22:11 |
| jfred | I'm on 6.17.11 | 22:11 |
| jfred | (TIL about swiotlb, doing some reading there) | 22:13 |
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| jfred | hm, though I've just started an rsync that had hung it the other day and the system seems stable so far... | 22:21 |
| josch | oh funky, my system has hung when I booted it from sd-card on rk3588 | 22:33 |
| kop316 | josch: I have had a couple of system hangs in the past couple of days. I reboot and it's fine, but I am booting from NVMe | 22:35 |
| josch | haha it's not like i didn't have them on nvme but they are rare so i'm still trying to find the common cause | 22:38 |
| josch | i also have yet to experience one while being connected via serial which might help track this down | 22:39 |
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| josch | usb 4-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=2c7c, idProduct=0125, bcdDevice= 3.18 | 23:24 |
| josch | usb 4-1.2: Product: EG25-G | 23:24 |
| josch | usb 4-1.2: Manufacturer: Quectel | 23:24 |
| josch | nice! | 23:24 |
| josch | and that's exclusively with usb and the board comes with a sim tray, is compact and has ipex connectors for the antennas | 23:25 |
| jfred | oh here we go, wasn't a system hang this time but my rsync to this sd card did fail with some tracebacks in dmesg: https://paste.sr.ht/~jfred/01fbda421bd831e9d17bf9dcd5690cd1ecff12f7 | 23:25 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@98.19.128.69) | 23:52 | |
| josch | gordon1: re "actually cutout can be 4.9mm for the bottom thicker part with some spacers so its top will be flush with top of the pcb" -- i was in a meeting earlier but now i understand what you mean. Yes, that's a good idea to save some vertical space. There is also the variant with diamond metal plate where the base diameter is only 3.7 mm and its height only 1.9 mm (versus 2.5 mm for the variant with | 23:56 |
| josch | 4.9 mm base diameter) | 23:56 |
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