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| minute | yoo greetings from my gnome desktop on mnt quasar 8550 | 01:43 |
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| bkeys | minute: Hi! | 01:47 |
| bkeys | I wonder if I drill holes in the back of the Reform chassis so I could mount wifi antennas like what goes on a router if it would make my wifi stronger | 01:47 |
| minute | this cpu+gpu is brutally fast | 01:48 |
| minute | bkeys: i would maybe try that on the port covers first | 01:48 |
| bkeys | That or I may just have a travel router I use as a wifi card | 01:48 |
| bkeys | minute: How fast is it compared to rk3588? | 01:49 |
| bkeys | rk3588 has been really nice, I will probably stick with it for a while; I recently got some nice loongarch hardware I have been playing around with | 01:49 |
| ch | minute: whoop | 01:51 |
| n0blenote | excited have a gander and look at rk under the hood after doing a bunch of aarch debuggin on macos! | 01:53 |
| Svp | idk what ive missed during the time my reform was down but for some unclear reason in a fresh system image classicube feels to be performing kinda better than how i remembered on the ol' imx8mq | 01:53 |
| Svp | then again anything would shred the poor ol' imx8mq but so far it seems to be the most broadly compatible module wrt throwing distros as it (and internal display working is so nice...) so i'll just keep the a311d for the second motherboard for now | 01:56 |
| minute | bkeys: not 100% sure yet | 02:00 |
| minute | bkeys: multicore perf maybe 50-70% faster, (but i only tested with 7z b), gpu certainly faster but no benchmark yet | 02:01 |
| minute | on gnome desktop everything is pretty much instant, and blender works pretty well | 02:02 |
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| kfx | bkeys: I drilled holes in the side ports and mounted an antenna, it works great | 02:08 |
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| kfx | https://github.com/rockchip-linux/mpp oh boy | 02:50 |
| sigrid | huh. | 02:50 |
| kfx | looks like the ffmpeg people didn't like it when rockchip removed their copyright notices and illegally relicensed their code | 02:51 |
| sigrid | lol. makes sense | 02:53 |
| mhoye | bkeys: I've done that. | 03:02 |
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| mhoye | I replaced the plastic sideplates on my 1stgen with the metal ones and then drilled one out for the antenna, it works great. | 03:06 |
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| mhoye | I definitely am considering drilling out the back, though, both for an antenna and for usb power. | 03:07 |
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| gsora | sooo quasar preorder wen eta 👀 | 09:23 |
| josch | minute: congratulations on your status with quasar! (just read the fedi thread) Should I add (at least a dummy) machine.conf into reform-tools? | 09:24 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 09:51 | |
| josch | minute: there is now https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/155 -- would you like me to also add qcs6490 while i'm at it? Then you may be able to test things closer to how they are maybe getting shipped from the start and maybe find bugs earlier. :) | 09:53 |
| - n0blenote (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~n0blenote@user/n0blenote) | 10:06 | |
| grimmware | that qualcomm's graphics performance is deeply upsetting to me, an rk3588 owner | 10:53 |
| grimmware | mostly because my biggest upset at this particular moment is I want to run blender | 10:54 |
| josch | grimmware: upsetting? i thought the qualcomm was running blender just fine? | 11:23 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 11:38 | |
| termos | would the 8550 use less power than the rockchips? hyped for that quasar | 11:42 |
| gsora | less power and less thermals would be a dream | 11:43 |
| gsora | though after the latest mesa upgrades, rk3588 is becoming more and more usable | 11:44 |
| grimmware | josch: yeah, it’s running it great but I have an rk3588 ;) | 11:45 |
| gsora | for now! | 11:47 |
| MartiniMoe | Does someone know, are pocker reforms currently being shipped or is there still some todo blocking shipment? :) | 11:48 |
| + ericsfraga (~user@2a00:23cc:b407:6401:4e9b:a3bc:99d7:de86) | 11:58 | |
| josch | MartiniMoe: I think the latest status is here: https://mntre.com/faq.html under "When does my order ship?" | 12:00 |
| josch | termos: as i understood minute, the qualcomm is not a silver bullet either. It has fewer I/O (like pci) compared to rockchip and it cannot do kvm | 12:00 |
| josch | grimmware: ah understood okay :D | 12:01 |
| MartiniMoe | josch: ah thanks, so there's still work to do with updating firmwares :) | 12:01 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 12:38 | |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 12:49 | |
| * Guest446 -> mjw | 12:56 | |
| ericsfraga | so, I dropped my Pocket Reform. Hey hum. Still works in the sense that it boots and I can connect to it via SSH but the display is not working. Time to put the easy to take apart aspect to a test, I guess. | 13:29 |
| - pomel0 (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 13:35 | |
| ericsfraga | (it was a serious relief to find that the system was still working as I had spent several hours using it, with a significant amount of writing, while travelling across the pond -- I was able to retrieve all the work I'd done.) | 13:35 |
| + gordon1 (~gordon1@citadel.niflheim.info) | 13:54 | |
| elb | does anyone happen to know what charger specs are required to get ~max charge speeds out of a pocket reform? | 14:02 |
| elb | I'm pondering building a pocket reform satchel, and I'd like to include a small-but-capable PD supply in it | 14:02 |
| ch | 20V @ 2A | 14:03 |
| ch | i think | 14:03 |
| elb | wow, that's more than I expected | 14:03 |
| elb | I guess I don't know exactly where the current being measured on the LCD is measured | 14:03 |
| elb | I assumed it was at battery voltage | 14:04 |
| ch | maybe 20V @ 1.5A is also enough | 14:04 |
| elb | mosot of the physically small chargers I see are in the 12-15 V range for max voltage | 14:04 |
| elb | regrettable | 14:05 |
| elb | still, it charges pretty fast | 14:05 |
| ch | you can also give 15V @ 3A a try | 14:05 |
| ch | the chargers i have can always do both | 14:05 |
| elb | unforutnately I don't have a PD supply I can tweak | 14:05 |
| elb | it just negotiates whatever it negotiates | 14:05 |
| elb | so I don't know what I'm actually using | 14:05 |
| ch | should also be printed on the charger | 14:05 |
| elb | yeah but the charger has a whole range of possibilities | 14:06 |
| ch | yes, so what it can do? | 14:06 |
| elb | like, all of them | 14:06 |
| ch | the pocket will try to pick the highest V | 14:06 |
| elb | so I _assume_ it's at 20 V | 14:06 |
| elb | but I can't tell it "try 15" | 14:06 |
| - paperManu_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 14:08 | |
| ch | the amps in the oled are measured by the mp2650, and are actually input minus discharge | 14:08 |
| elb | ok nice | 14:08 |
| elb | so if it's saying 1.5 A, that's 1.5 A at max negotiated voltage | 14:08 |
| ch | yes | 14:08 |
| elb | then yeah I see somewhat less than 2 A at 20 V peak | 14:08 |
| elb | I think ~1.8 or 1.9 A is the most I've seen | 14:08 |
| josch | ericsfraga: uff let us know how it goes! | 14:09 |
| ch | yeah that matches my experience | 14:09 |
| elb | ok hmm I might have to compromise on that point | 14:09 |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 14:09 | |
| elb | it charges _really_ fast compared to a larger laptop, so maybe 2A at 15 V or whatever the appropriate mini charger I can find does, will be fine | 14:10 |
| ch | the slow charging bits are at the end anyway :) | 14:10 |
| elb | so true | 14:10 |
| ericsfraga | josch: will do! Need to build up the courage... I'm not great at finicky manual operations! | 14:11 |
| josch | ericsfraga: probably just needs re-seating of some conenctors :) | 14:11 |
| ericsfraga | I heard something rattle when I picked up the unit from the hard floor it hit so, yes, I'm hoping it's just a disconnected connector! | 14:12 |
| + liberto (~liberto@user/libercv) | 14:14 | |
| ch | elb: (should have thought better about this) it cant use more than ~17W to charge; you want some headroom for *usage*, say up to 15W, so a 35W charger should be very fine provided it can supply 15V @ >2A or 20V 1.75A | 14:14 |
| ch | elb: i think the charger i typically use does 15V@3A or 20V@1.5A so there are some interesting differences | 14:14 |
| ch | maybe something to optimize at some point | 14:15 |
| elb | I think I'm OK with charging slowing down significantly if I'm actually using the thing | 14:15 |
| elb | and I should say that the peak current I've seen _has_ been during use | 14:16 |
| ch | what i haven't checked so far is what happens when plugging in extra usb devices | 14:19 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a42:1100:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 14:28 | |
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| - kfx (QUIT: Ping timeout: 252 seconds) (~kfx@216.126.196.60) | 15:00 | |
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| ch | src/pd_com.c:155:20: error: 'max_power' may be used uninitialized [-Werror=maybe-uninitialized] | 15:18 |
| ch | 155 | unsigned int max_power = voltage * max_power; | 15:18 |
| ch | dear gcc, thats not a "may" | 15:18 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@h69.128.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 15:39 | |
| bkeys | mhoye: Yeah I just don't want to drill holes unless I know it's gonna make it better | 15:53 |
| mhoye | bkeys: the cheapest way to experiment is to punch a hole in the plastic side plates and mount the antenna there, see if it makes the difference you want before you commit. | 16:15 |
| mhoye | I have to say that minute's choice of wifi card with attachable antennas instead of builtins was inspired. | 16:15 |
| grimmware | just in case anyone's thinking of it, I already tried making a pocket reform headphone jack plate with a hole for an SMA connector but it doesn't work because the PCB is right in the middle of the slot | 16:55 |
| grimmware | so like, don't try to mount SMA directly in the hole on a pocket is all I'm saying but if you're talking about different things ignore me | 16:56 |
| grimmware | I've been meaning to print a plate that puts the SMA adapter at a right angle and it really wouldn't take very long but it has not been top of my list | 16:56 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a42:1100:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 17:16 | |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 260 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a42:1100:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 17:34 | |
| ch | elb: you could try this: https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/merge_requests/81 - and see if that picks something different for your charger | 17:43 |
| ch | josch: minute: ^ would appreciate it if you also gave this https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/merge_requests/81 a try and maybe post the logs (this is unrelated to the other branch) | 17:44 |
| mhoye | grimmware: in this case wifi antennas - they're much shorter on the mount side. | 17:55 |
| mhoye | I'm... _sort of_ wonderingif I should make a deeper tray for the underbelly of my Reform? That opens with a latch, like Huang's Novena did. | 17:58 |
| + robin__ (~robin@user/terpri) | 18:05 | |
| - robin_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~robin@user/terpri) | 18:08 | |
| minute | ch: thanks for the reminder! currently out eating something and then will try it out :3 | 18:16 |
| ch | enjoy your food | 18:18 |
| minute | thx!! | 18:18 |
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| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.3.83) | 18:22 | |
| jah | I do observe a behavior with pocket keyboard firmware that I can't explain, so I would appreciate if anyone more knowledgable could shed some light: | 18:42 |
| jah | when emulating a key press (context modtap) if I do it for just one cycle of the `process_keyboard` (called every 5ms) then in ~30% of the time the key is not detected by the operating system | 18:42 |
| jah | if I do it for two cycles, it is detected 100% of the time | 18:42 |
| jah | elb: ^ maybe you would have an idea about this? | 18:43 |
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| + mark_ (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:36 | |
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| gordon1 | is it only me who hear occasional creaks from reform classic case when laptop heats up or cools down? | 19:58 |
| gordon1 | (e.g. when you started compiling kernel) | 19:59 |
| siviq | Not certain how the heating or cooling is affecting the aluminum body of the Reform laptop. Perhaps from the side steel plates? | 20:07 |
| gordon1 | i have FR4 side panels | 20:08 |
| gordon1 | it has to be either acrylic bottom or heatsink if i had to guess | 20:09 |
| gordon1 | but yeah, it is impossible to localize the sound | 20:09 |
| gordon1 | i wonder if there is some sort of acoustic camera, like thermal one but shows source of the sound | 20:11 |
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| + cli (~m-vsauiy@user/cli) | 20:22 | |
| sknebel | those exist, yes | 20:26 |
| + pomel0 (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 20:55 | |
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| + voltaire28 (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net) | 21:12 | |
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| elb | ch: I've actually never looked at the sysctl output for selection, I should do that | 21:28 |
| elb | jah: so I don't know if this is entirely related, but there's some weirdness in how input devices are currently reported that 's on my list of things to disentangle | 21:29 |
| elb | jah: basically every 5 ms (not a heartbeat, there's definitely drift, it's more like "5 ms after completing the last cycle") a _chain_ of reports is triggered, and the next report is sent 5 ms later | 21:30 |
| elb | and I _think_ that can be wonky | 21:30 |
| elb | the reports are keyboard, trackball, then ... something else (?) on the pocket | 21:31 |
| elb | hang on let me look | 21:31 |
| elb | oh, media keys, not relevant on the pocket | 21:31 |
| - Svp (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 21:46 | |
| cellmoose | A while back I asked about peoples experience flying with the reform pocket, and now I have my own experience to add (I flew to/from 39c3) | 21:58 |
| cellmoose | On the way there there were no complaints in the security checkpoint, this time I took the laptop out of my bag and opened it (it=the laptop) | 21:59 |
| cellmoose | On the way back (ie in Hamburg) I left everything in the bag as I packed it (they had a fancy kind of scanner where you didn't need to take anything out, not even liquids). | 22:00 |
| cellmoose | This time my bag got pulled to the side and they wondered what the laptop was, and they asked me to open it. The guy who checked it seemed confused/impressed | 22:01 |
| cellmoose | Funnily enough they didn't care at all to look at the bag of loose electronics components/PCB I also had in the bag | 22:01 |
| + Svp (~svp@host-79-7-240-189.business.telecomitalia.it) | 22:07 | |
| jah | elb: interesting, I did hesitate to reduce that 5ms to something like 2ms to see if that make a difference, but I got afraid that I might break something and then not be able flash anymore | 22:11 |
| ch | elb: it should be somewhat readable :) | 22:13 |
| elb | jah: so my plan is to make the chaining part much faster; we're using full speed usb (or whatever the 125 usec per transaction one is), so I was going to set a timer to check if we can chain every maybe twice that | 22:21 |
| elb | so basically we'd send two packets back to back instead of this weird 5ms stagger | 22:22 |
| elb | anyway I don't think the 5 ms is a problem ,per se, but I do think that trying to send two packets in the same handler every 5 ms _might_ be | 22:23 |
| elb | and I've been meaning to dig into that | 22:23 |
| ch | josch: https://box86.org/2026/01/new-box64-v0-4-0-released/ | 22:27 |
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| - siviq (QUIT: Quit: Client closed) (~siviq@user/siviq) | 22:44 | |
| Svp | been having a weird issue, on a motherboard v3 and i.mx8mq processor module i cannot seem to get a nvme to be recognised when in the m.2 slot, but if i were to use a m.2 -> mpcie adapter and plugged it into the mpcie slot it DOES show up in lspci... are the extra lanes troubling it? i could try carefully taping some pins if i really have to | 22:51 |
| + voltaire28 (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net) | 23:04 | |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~paperManu@modemcable141.205-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) | 23:04 | |
| gordon1 | ok, i have disgusting update about SiN ball for trackball, i took SiN ball and degreased it with acetone and it totally lost all tracking at with vanilla sensor and cup, after that i added a drop of sewing machine oil and smeared it on the ball using my hands in gloves and it tracks even better than POM ball now, which i would say works in favour of hypothesis that at default distance it is | 23:08 |
| gordon1 | hand grease - what helps track the ball, and i think original post ( https://exple.tive.org/blarg/2024/11/14/nitride/ ) mentioning "shiny to wear off" probably meant that it needs to collect some hand grease | 23:08 |
| gordon1 | however, when i repeated the same experiment using ZrO ball - it didn't track even after applying grease | 23:08 |
| gordon1 | more data needed | 23:08 |
| + pomel0 (~pomel0@user/pomel0) | 23:13 | |
| minute | josch: machine file for qcs 8550 would be appreciated. i've given you a few answers in the MR :D | 23:17 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 23:18 | |
| minute | ch: how about an MR to see+track all you did in one place on the new charging-c branch? or do you already have one? | 23:18 |
| minute | aha nice https://source.mnt.re/zeha/pocket-reform/-/commit/418d0f54d1e557b4225779a8d0aa21b57916749a | 23:20 |
| minute | ch: you did the windows tool magic? | 23:20 |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 23:21 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@146.71.9.156) | 23:22 | |
| minute | ch: ok here goes | 23:24 |
| minute | # ON AC CHG chg=2 mps_flt=00/00 input=19225mV@1162mA charge=275mA discharge=0mA p=20.00W ttempty=6143min ttfull=248min | 23:24 |
| minute | #! 3c 2d 28 32 52 27 05 14 52 7c 36 03 c0 0b 00 | 23:24 |
| minute | ch: funky, it now thinks that capacity is at 53% (2146/4000mAh) | 23:24 |
| minute | ch: before it thought this was 100% | 23:24 |
| ch | i had the same experience | 23:26 |
| minute | very interesting | 23:26 |
| ch | from like 65% | 23:26 |
| ch | or so | 23:26 |
| minute | it charges slowly but it charges more | 23:26 |
| ch | i used the windows tool yes, but i mostly rolled with the defaults | 23:26 |
| minute | ch: also lol: i have 5000mAh cells woops | 23:28 |
| ch | minute: so i dont have a branch with both charging-c and the thing from today | 23:28 |
| ch | minute: oops, so it should maybe find out about that | 23:29 |
| minute | ch: you think automatically? or we have to poke design capacity in case someone has bigger cells | 23:29 |
| ch | i think it will learn it | 23:30 |
| ch | minute: can you post a few of the voltage prints? | 23:30 |
| ch | want to see how much the diff is between vpack and the bat_v from mp2650 | 23:30 |
| minute | ch: https://minute.social/secret-room/20260106-pref-sysctl-fw-ch-prints.txt | 23:32 |
| ch | hmm ok, maybe we have to wait until its really full | 23:36 |
| ch | will be interesting | 23:36 |
| ch | minute: i just merged todays thing into charging-c, if you want to try both together | 23:37 |
| ch | then it'd be nice to see the pd handshake debug messages | 23:37 |
| minute | ch: ok, i'll make a todo for that to not disrupt this first charging experiment | 23:38 |
| ch | ack | 23:39 |
| minute | ch: btw many thanks for implementing the max configuration! really great | 23:39 |
| minute | feels so weird that it can charge more :D | 23:40 |
| ch | i still want to add comments what the settings actually mean and understand then a bit better | 23:40 |
| ch | but yeah | 23:40 |
| minute | ~what lies beyond 100%~ | 23:40 |
| ch | was a fun moment to see the jump | 23:40 |
| minute | :D | 23:40 |
| minute | ch: did it go up to 100% for you? or 99% iirc? | 23:41 |
| ch | 99% | 23:41 |
| minute | ch: did you make a discharge time test afterwards? :0 | 23:41 |
| ch | still wondering if the charger also needs better settings | 23:41 |
| minute | i think settings can never be good enough... | 23:42 |
| ch | probably | 23:42 |
| ch | so i was running with only todays branch for a while | 23:43 |
| ch | and switched now to the everything-branch | 23:43 |
| ch | and it claims its now 80% full, whereas it was 99% full before the branch switch | 23:44 |
| minute | huh | 23:44 |
| ch | so i think on the 'normal' firmware, the mp2650 just doesnt charge far enough | 23:44 |
| minute | ch: weird, PD was suddenly renegotiated + all my usb stuff dis/reconnected | 23:48 |
| minute | luckily i have logs | 23:48 |
| ch | ugh | 23:49 |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a42:1100:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 23:49 | |
| minute | ch: could be cable issues here though... the usb-c port or cable has become "wackelig" | 23:49 |
| minute | ch: https://minute.social/secret-room/20260106-pref-sysctl-fw-ch-unattached-glitch.txt | 23:50 |
| minute | VBUS went away | 23:50 |
| ch | hmmm, can we blame the cable/connector? :) | 23:51 |
| minute | i think so | 23:52 |
| minute | ch: yeah funnily it uses a lot of % when disconnecting+reconnecting, so i think it still has to relearn | 23:54 |
| minute | in general my rk3588 pocket reform has been incredibly stable during 2 full/extended days of home office will all sorts of productivity apps | 23:55 |
| ch | the max datasheet goes into a long story of how their modelgauge doesnt need empty/full calibration, but then in practice you can still see these big jumps at the end of a charging 'cycle' | 23:56 |
| minute | hehe | 23:57 |
| minute | funny @ long story | 23:57 |
| minute | has kind of stopped charging now @ "51%" | 23:58 |
| minute | curr is hovering around 0, -4, -2, 1, 2 | 23:58 |
| minute | cap is still increasing though | 23:58 |
| minute | strange :D | 23:59 |
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