2026-01-03.log

+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a42:1100:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)00:08
joschm) yes, i really did not consider this as a possibility of how it works XD00:10
josch(says the one who just soldered wires from said trackball usb to the card manually)00:11
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minutejosch: hehe00:30
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joschgordon1: i really appreciate your input on the lte card -- it's not even super expensive compared to the em06-e and if it has connections with the purism phone and is otherwise getting hacked on, it sounds like the perfect fit for a computer like the reform. :)07:56
joschit should fit nicely in the space between display connector and usb ports07:57
joschnow that m.inute corrected my understanding of realleif's solution i am also wondering whether doing it like this would not even be better because then the mini pci-e could get populated by the intel ax210 card07:59
+ chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a42:1100:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1)08:24
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chjosch: do you know of any FEX packaging efforts?11:00
vkoskiv_funny timing, I just set out to build FEX from source a few minutes ago :D11:05
joschch: i packaged box64 and fex because fex needs a rootfs somewhere and how do you ship a rootfs via a package?11:06
joschpeople keep telling me how fex is so much better than box64 so if i'm wrong with that assumption i'd like to be corrected11:06
vkoskiv_I don't know which is better, I just watched this yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yDXyW1WERg11:07
joschah the 39c9 talk11:08
joscherrr 39c311:08
vkoskiv_And, somewhat related, I hope everyone here who was at 39C3 had a good time! I was invited to go but couldn't make the timing work11:08
joschwell, it must be nice to get support from valve ;)11:08
gordon1josch: i would advice against putting foss firmware on it if you value battery life, it sorta broke mine in some way so even after returning vanilla firmware it still cannot enter low-power mode, didn't figure it out yet11:08
joschgordon1: noted. I indeed want to primarily "use" it and not tinker with it. :)11:09
joschi just got the shipping notification of the card :)11:09
gordon1right, so stick with vanilla then and i'll update you if it is ready for foss :)11:09
joschnice :)11:10
joschgordon1: i also just learned about the source code of leif's pci-e board: https://github.com/leifhelm/mnt-mpcie-usb-hub11:10
vkoskiv_josch: This is how fex handles the rootfs stuff: https://wiki.fex-emu.com/index.php/Development:Setting_up_RootFS11:10
joschyes, and box64 just uses multiarch11:11
joschhow fex does it seems to be a trip back into the past when qemu also still required a rootfs for user-mode emulation11:12
gordon1nice, i may or may not steal the hub part completely 11:12
gordon1(no license >:o )11:12
josch(i just asked about that via fedi)11:13
chjosch: i havent checked at all what fex needs, but it seems to be one of the two options for wine arm64->x8611:32
chjosch: and box64 will also need significant work going forward11:33
chjosch: i understand fex is what steamvr will use, maybe i'm misinformed11:33
joschyes, fex is what steam/valve is using11:34
joschand yes, box64 needs continuous maintenance and patching11:35
joschvkoskiv_: in the 39c3 talk, is a comparison drawn to box64?11:38
chbut also it will need a mingw64 aarch64 clang11:51
chnot looking forward to that either11:51
joschah and there was that :)11:51
joschsometimes our standards get into the way of practicality11:51
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joschgordon1: https://social.sdfeu.org/@realleif/11583088676065456412:25
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- voltaire28_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)12:52
minutech: josch: fex seems to be packaged for ubuntu (by fex), i wonder how far away that is from being able to be ported to debian13:11
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joschminute: practically speaking we can package anything -- this is not about the technical rules but about the social rules like DFSG, embedded code copies and other packaging rules13:20
minutejosch: ah i'm reading the log in more detail now, sorry :D13:21
minuteso the rootfs is a problem13:22
minutesomehow i thought the rootfs can be downloaded with a helper script and isn't part of the .deb13:22
minutei wonder if the rootfs is special or it could also be created by debootstrap etc13:23
joschminute: yes and then the package would go into "contrib" and not "main" but at least personally i'm not very motivated to package something for contrib13:23
minutegot it, and very understandable13:23
+ voltaire28_ (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)13:28
vkoskiv_fex does have support for accessing the rootfs directly from a squashfs file. It gives an option to extract it under ~/.fex-emu/RootFS/, presumably for performance reasons?13:29
+ mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)13:29
vkoskiv_I just chose the ubuntu 24.04 rootfs, the wiki advised to choose the "most similar" one, if the host distro isn't in the list.13:30
vkoskiv_Building and getting fex set up went without issue, I can now run x86_64 binaries from under that rootfs with (presumably) binfmt_misc13:31
vkoskiv_Now I'm trying to figure out how to install the amd64 steam deb :D13:31
vkoskiv_I did do `dpkg --add-architecture amd64`, but I think I need something more, getting closer now.13:34
joschvkoskiv_: if you built it yourself -- where did you ge the mingw clang build from?13:34
joschvkoskiv_: and you probably want their wine fork as well because:13:35
josch"Upstream wine has various things missing for full FEX/ARM64EC support, while it can be used, my fork" https://wiki.fex-emu.com/index.php/Development:ARM64EC13:35
vkoskiv_I just followed this: https://wiki.fex-emu.com/index.php/Development:Setting_up_FEX13:35
vkoskiv_No mention of mingw clang here?13:35
vkoskiv_And yeah, I was planning on trying linux native amd64 things first, then worrying about wine once I get that going.13:36
vkoskiv_Good to know they recommend a fork13:36
joschvkoskiv_: "Unlike Linux FEX, the Windows FEX modules purely handle CPU emulation, with syscall translation being done on either the wine side (WOW64) or ABI (ARM64EC)."13:39
vkoskiv_Okay, my issue was that I downloaded steam_latest.deb, when I should have downloaded steam-launcher_latest_all.deb13:40
minutevkoskiv_: why not apt install steam?13:40
minuteah no, i've confused that with box64's helper script, please ignore :D13:41
vkoskiv_It doesn't show up in my apt sources13:41
* vkoskiv_ -> vkoskiv13:43
vkoskivOne day I should figure out my IRC setup so my nick doesn't go changing itself :D13:44
vkoskivI installed the valve steam launcher deb, and it's now launching steam.13:44
vkoskiv"Updating Steam runtime environment"13:44
vkoskivGuide didn't mention I need to install steam-libs-{amd64,i386}, but I get the feeling I may need to do that.13:46
vkoskivQuite a few errors in the terminal, but Steam is still quite happily setting things up. It's at "Updating Steam..." now13:47
vkoskivFully expecting to fire up Cyberpunk 2077 with RTX: ON any moment now.. :D13:48
vkoskivI'm seeing a bunch of "panfrost: driver missing" followed by "glx: failed to create dri3 screen", but that doesn't seem to be a problem so far, I've seen several windows pop up.13:52
vkoskivIt's still setting things up, I think it's almost done now.13:53
vkoskivLogin window popped up!13:54
vkoskivSteam is up and running now.13:58
f_What's the difference between box64 and FEX is what I never understood13:59
f_and also what's preventing them from working together13:59
vkoskivhttps://vkoskiv.com/screenshots/2026-01-03T13:01:56UTC-t5Ah64bl.png14:02
vkoskivlol @ "GenuineIntel Cortex-A73"14:03
minutevkoskiv: nice14:04
minutevkoskiv: i wonder why not cortex-a7614:04
vkoskivI'm running the a311d14:05
minuteohhh ok14:05
+ paperManu (~paperManu@146.71.9.156)14:07
f_I didn't know Intel made consumer arm CPUs14:07
f_very genuine14:07
vkoskivI'll just try to install Portal and see if that works. Steam system info does show it's using llvmpipe, so probably won't be 60FPS.14:08
vkoskivProcessing vulkan shaders14:12
vkoskivIt started! Valve logo & music going on :D14:14
minuteheh14:15
minutevkoskiv: do you have working vulkaninfo / vkcube on the arm side?14:16
vkoskivvulkaninfo says "Found no drivers!"14:18
vkoskivPortal is running now, in the main menu. It's a i386 binary. The guide mentioned needed workarounds to get 32-bit stuff working, but it's just running? Maybe outdated info then.14:19
vkoskivMaybe I'll debug gpu stuff next. Is it realistic to expect the mali-g52 to be able to run Portal?14:20
minutevkoskiv:  do you have mesa-vulkan-drivers installed?14:20
minutevkoskiv: because you should have vulkan nowadays with uptodate mesa...14:20
vkoskivIn the portal main menu I get 1 frame about every 5 sec, which is to be expected with software emulation, I think. Let me check that.14:21
minuteyeah14:21
+ paperManu_ (~paperManu@146.71.9.156)14:21
vkoskivThe fact that this is even running is pretty wild IMO.14:21
minuteyes indeed14:21
vkoskivI don't have mesa-vulkan-drivers installed. I'll install that.14:22
vkoskivNow vulkaninfo shows stuff, and vkcube works too14:23
vkoskivthough vkcube uses llvmpipe again14:23
minutehm for me on rk3588, vkcube shows mali-g61014:24
minutevkoskiv: one can pass --gpu_number to vkcube14:25
vkoskivAh, I see vulkaninfo shows only llvmpipe, no other GPUs. I'll try to reboot perhaps14:28
vkoskivrebooted, vulkaninfo --summary shows GPU0 as llvmpipe, and no other GPUs. So I'll debug that next.14:31
vkoskivI should note that I'm still running the same install I've had since ~2022, I've just installed updates, but my config has diverged somewhat from the latest reform system images I've tried.14:34
vkoskivI should try to harmonize things somewhat at some point, there are some very neat things I saw when I last booted a fresh SD card :D14:35
minutevkoskiv: ah ok14:35
vkoskivI really like the OOBE stuff that's in there now.14:35
minutecool, that's good to hear14:35
minuteg52 is bifrost, which is supported by panvk, but not yet fully conformant i think, maybe it needs an env var to enable? only guessing tho14:36
vkoskivI'll try some things14:36
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+ siviq (~siviq@user/siviq)14:40
vkoskivI'll actually start by tending to some of these reform-check items I've been putting off ^^14:45
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minute> [  OK  ] Found device dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-reformsdboot.device - SanDisk_3.2Gen1 reformsdboot.15:38
minutewoah woah, qcs8550 can now find reform system image on usb stick15:38
chjosch: re rootfs: 1) for the wine support, apparently no rootfs is needed 2) wondering why the rootfs cant be just / on debian15:40
chjosch: 2) ... provided users install :i386 stuff. will try to understand this in a bit15:41
chjosch: 3) unsurprisingly the wine parts for fex also need the mingw64 aarch64 clang, so that has to happen either way15:41
chwhy is there a long moment where the mouse cursor cannot be moved when logging in, after entering the password. is that the time gnome-shell needs to start?15:42
f_neat!15:42
f_(re qcs8550)15:42
vkoskivIs it safe to flash uboot on eMMC on A311D these days?15:53
vkoskivI've been happily booting with an SD card, so I haven't checked this recently.15:54
minutevkoskiv: yeah15:54
minutevkoskiv: make sure all your reform-tools etc are up to date first 15:54
vkoskivWill do, thanks.15:54
f_vkoskiv: I'd make sure there's a way to recover first15:55
f_BPI-CM4 has testpoints that supposedly enable USB boot but that never worked for me/only entered it in their u-boot vendor fork15:55
f_and also you'd need an actual cm4io board even if it did work, as I understand it USB mode isn't really exposed on reform15:56
f_normally it's supposed to be exposed to the first usb port enumerated (on the CM4IO that'd be the USB-C port)15:56
f_Anyway seems like u-boot on eMMC is quite well tested these days so I'd worry less about that15:57
vkoskivI don't think I do, or I'm at least unfamiliar with that process. As far as I can remember, the risk was it no longer booting off the sd card if the emmc gets flashed with a misconfigured uboot15:57
f_yes, that's the risk15:57
f_it's less risky today than it was back in the early A311D Reform days though I guess.15:58
f_(why BPI-CM4 has an integrated eMMC instead of removable and no convenient way of entering bootROM USB mode is a question I'm still waiting a response for ;)15:59
minutegot first 7z b scores for 855016:02
f_does qcs8550 have secureboot enabled16:02
minuteno idea16:03
minutealso has a hypervisor i think16:03
minute(gunyah)16:03
f_Yeah I heard of that16:03
minuteanyway, first 7zb total score 3093716:03
minute(without heatsink, and no idea about perf governor)16:03
minuteon rk3588, total score 2002916:03
f_Not bad!16:03
minuteyeah 33% multicore speedup in this benchmark16:04
minutebut at the same time doesn't get hot...16:04
minuteoh it downclocks to 400-500mhz in idle, that's neat16:04
f_That's expected, it's supposed to be a phone SoC IIRC? Or based on such16:05
minuteyes, sm8550 is in a bunch of phones and qcs8550 is the iot version of that without the modem16:05
f_Would be unusual if a phone SoC did get that hot16:05
minuteyes exactly16:05
minutethat's one big reason why i wanna use qcom in the tablet 16:06
f_Especially considering how bloated android is these days16:06
minutebut we're gonna use linux and not android ofc :D16:06
minutein this first test, the cores "only" go to 2956mhz, that's less than advertised iirc, so i guess there's more possible16:07
minutewith boost, the first benchmark round goes to 3430416:13
minutelol i can't math, it's of course 50% speedup. up to 70%16:17
+ AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net)16:18
f_pretty exciting16:20
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f_minute: as I understand it (though I'm not a qualcomm expert) secureboot being disabled would allow a bit more control over fw running, like you wouldn't have to chainload u-boot from some other bootloader16:22
f_Also some of these IoT SoCs are also being used on phones, like the Fairphone 5 has an IoT-version of sc7280 (w/ modem though)16:23
f_qcm6490 iirc16:23
minutef_: yeah that's the qcm6490. we also have qcs6490 module which is the iot version of that, and brought that up a few months ago16:24
minutef_: but in my benchmarks the qcs6490 is around the same cpu speed as rk358816:24
minutef_: so i'm a bit more excited for the 855016:24
minutebut dunno yet about pricing differences16:24
f_oh wait you're doing multiple qcom SoC modules?16:24
minutef_: yes because they are mostly pin compat16:25
f_pretty cool16:25
minutef_: 6490, 8550 and 8750 (don't have 8750 samples yet though)16:25
minute8750 is the 8 elite with oryon cores16:25
f_that's really neat16:30
f_and yeah qc[sm]6490 isn't all that powerful16:31
+ nsc (~nicolas@i5C74DE29.versanet.de)16:39
chminute: is there more of a datasheet for the eremit cells than https://www.eremit.de/p/eremit-3-7v-4-000mah-high-cap ?16:51
chminute: nevermind, found it on the website16:52
minutech: nice16:52
amospallaif this is table is relevant, the 8550 more than double the performance of rk3588 in single core. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4906vs5740/Rockchip-RK3588-vs-QTI-QCS855016:55
amospallawhile also being much cooler.16:56
minuteamospalla: yeah but that's the only benchmark out there...16:56
amospallatrue16:56
minuteso i wanted to confirm it myself :D16:56
amospallaIf you do some single core benchmarks please give some numbers :D16:57
minutebut with which tool?16:58
amospallasomething like compressing a file?16:58
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chi wonder if we fuck up Vbatt somehow17:03
+ voltaire28_ (~jlafon@28.162.2.93.rev.sfr.net)17:10
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vkoskivI wonder why my u-boot version shows as "2024.04-dirty" even though I just flashed the latest u-boot to both my SD card and eMMC17:19
vkoskivI vaguely recall doing something related to u-boot around that time, so it's probably something I did.17:20
vkoskivI've made reform-check much happier. And also purged a few dozen kernel packages dating back to 5.x days. I guess I forgot about apt purge and what it does.17:22
joschvkoskiv: if the problem with the u-boot version persists, please elaborate17:24
joschvkoskiv: with purge you also remove config files. By default, configs are retained on package removal.17:24
vkoskivreform-check reports: 'I: Version of U-Boot: 2024.04-dirty'17:25
vkoskivIt also reports that both the eMMC and SD card contain the latest u-boot version, 2024-12-23.17:26
vkoskivMy expectation was that I'd see the u-boot version from that /proc file show 2024-12-23 after I've rebooted, but it stayed the same.17:26
joschvkoskiv: oh that's part of how u-boot is built17:27
joschthis is fixed with the next reform-tools release17:27
vkoskivAh, so that's not my doing then, okay.17:27
joschthe next reform-tools release is blocked on https://source.mnt.re/bugs/bugs/-/work_items/5017:28
amospallaminute: this script replicates the test from https://openbenchmarking.org/test/pts/compress-gzip : https://paste.debian.net/hidden/75c5a5e217:28
amospallaif you find it relevant to use.17:29
amospallamy intel 14500 takes 26.5 seconds, my rk3588 53 seconds. An intel n100 takes 48 seconds. Not bad for the rk3588. But as this is only a gzip test, and does not mean anything besides that.17:35
minuteamospalla: isn't this io bound? are you running it on /tmp ?17:37
amospallaI did on the pocket17:37
amospallaIt compresses twice the kernel, so 1.6GiB or so of data to read.17:38
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amospallaI did not on the desktop, but the results it gives is what you would expect accordingly to the openbenchmarking website results list.17:39
vkoskivran reform-emmc-bootstrap, and now it happily boots without an SD card. Nice!17:39
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@98.19.128.69)17:39
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joschi'm happy that tool works for you -- it is the most fragile of all by far17:43
vkoskivOkay, vkcube uses the gpu if I set PAN_I_WANT_A_BROKEN_VULKAN_DRIVER=117:54
vkoskivjosch: I did very carefully review the output and also save a copy to my desktop in case something did go wrong, but it went smoothly.17:57
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vkoskivGetting back to working on refmon (again), I think I figured out why the waybar battery gauge doesn't always match what the lpc gauge percentage says. Waybar's battery code doesn't account for /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_empty20:05
vkoskivMy refmon battery code didn't either until now, and now mine matches what the keyboard battery page reports exactly.20:05
joschmy rk3588 classic reform rebooted out of nowhere while running an "apt full-upgrade" and having cura render something at the same time20:35
joschthis is not the first time that rk3588 shuts off or reboots20:35
joschfunnily i do not have these issues with my rk3588 pocket reform20:35
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chcan someone enlighten me on the L1 calculation on the pocket charger board? MP2650 datasheet 'typical application' has it as 1.5uH, but on page 61 it gives 2.2uH for 20V Vin. tbh following the formulas i dont arrive at the values in the table22:21
+ angelwood (~angelwood@user/angelwood)22:22
minutech: usually there's a range of values that works, with different drawbacks22:24
chminute: right. i'm mostly wondering how to check the calculations there, given the datasheet often seems to assume Vin=15V, but we can select up to 20V22:26
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+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@h69.128.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)22:39
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+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@98.19.128.69)22:51
chlooks like gnome crashed sometime when charging to 99%22:57
chweird22:58
chrestarting gdm (from ssh) worked22:58
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