2025-12-19.log

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kfxso uh00:08
kfxhttps://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/u-boot/-/commit/3126a63c8d7e242d27b6ac432e8af16e5cdb00aa  if we had this commit in our tree, then I could just add a KCFLAGS= flag to make to reorder the boot_targets00:09
kfxbut with the version we have, BOOT_TARGETS= is #defined unconditionally, so it would have to be a patch to that00:09
+ matt2 (~matt@75-166-133-128.hlrn.qwest.net)00:21
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kfxalso minute the tls cert  expired on community.mnt.re02:14
kfxscreenreaders treat <div class='footer'> identically to <footer>02:22
kfxhtml is for machines, who cares how it looks to humans02:22
kfxif you want to read something go to a library, nerd02:22
kfxwhat you hate is actually just shitty web design02:23
kfxit's not div's fault02:23
kfxahah wrong channel 02:23
minutekfx: i was like... that escalated quickly02:41
kfxhaha sorry!  was having an Official Pointless Internet Argument in another channel, hopping around too much02:41
minuteupdating the discourse install now02:47
minutekfx: thx for the heads up!02:47
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spewkfx: thanks (I was out for a while)05:40
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gsoraminute: regarding my patchset, it's technically working10:14
gsorai'll send you a git repo link to try10:14
+ paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124)10:14
gsorahttps://tangled.org/geesawra.industries/reform-debian-packages/tree/linux6.18-hdmi10:22
- paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 240 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.15.124)11:17
joschminute: since nobody will probably ever set aside the time to fix the real cause for usb on ls1028a, i thought we should put the workaround into u-boot itself so that we can remove the workaround from reform-tools: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-ls1028a-uboot/-/merge_requests/711:31
minutejosch: good call!11:40
minutegsora: great, thanks11:41
gsoraminute: on the linux-rockchip chan yesterday you mentioned redriver hdmi cables, do you have suggestions/experience on what to use?12:10
joschhow am i not in that irc channel yet? welcome, irssii window 74 :D12:26
gsoratheir 3588's are so advanced, they can do 4k120hz12:29
+ paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124)12:35
* Guest6376 -> mjw12:47
joschgsora: yesterday i played 4k@60 with around 20% cpu usage12:50
gsoraon a 4k 60hz screen? :o12:50
joschlol no12:50
joschi don't even have a hdmi monitor here12:50
joschbut it still has to decode it even if i play it on the 1080p screen of the reform12:51
gsoraah yes12:59
gsoraI was referring to monitor capabilities 12:59
gsoraI'm lucky enough to have a 4k 160hz monitor, but even running it at 60 with reform is enough12:59
+ gustav25 (~gustav@c-78-82-52-152.bbcust.telenor.se)13:02
gordon1replaced side port panels with FR4 ones, do not observe any improvement on wifi RSSI, hard to say if it makes it better or not with all the smart tx power management nowdays13:09
gordon1*reform classic13:09
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sigridgood rk3588 news: somebody is working on vp9 hw decoding: https://github.com/chewitt/linux/commits/rockchip-6.18.y/17:30
gordon1tbh right now in my mpv/ffmpeg the only codec that works reliably is avc, so it is always nice17:32
minutesigrid: noice17:35
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gsorark3588 keeps on delivering19:07
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+ wielaard (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org)19:48
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- bkeys (QUIT: Ping timeout: 246 seconds) (~Thunderbi@h193.131.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)20:45
kfxI think I'm losing my mind.  alpine sd card image boots fine, same image on the nvme boots fine *but onboard video doesn't work*21:12
+ vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50)21:16
spewkfx: is this an image you made, or still sigrid's alpine-rk3588-20250726.img?21:30
sigridkfx: your uboot has to match I believe21:30
sigridthere is hdmi uboot and dsi uboot21:31
kfxyeah 21:31
kfxI have a patch that reorders boot_targets21:31
kfxso if there's an extlinux.conf on the nvme it runs that21:31
sigridmaybe the one on your emmc isn't dsi? idk! the world of linuks+uboot makes barely any sense to me21:31
kfxit checks sd -> usb -> nvme -> emmc.  u-boot always comes from the emmc and I didn't put a u-boot on the sd card21:31
sigridinteresting21:32
kfxwhich is why it's bizarre; it's the same u-boot loading the same files21:32
+ bkeys (~Thunderbi@h193.131.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net)21:32
kfxso I'm missing something.  further debugging required21:32
kfxspew: this is the output of a script I wrote to generate an sd card image21:33
sigridmaybe nvme init plays badly with the graphics21:33
kfxI know it *can* work, I just have to figure out what I'm missing21:33
kfxwhen I get something working I'll put up a runner and start generating images21:33
spewwell I'm very glad you're figuring it out and not me21:34
sigridsame here21:34
kfxalpine's installer scripts are not very flexible so I'm doing everything myself this go-round, which simplifies things a bit21:34
kfxfewer moving parts21:34
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cwebberjosch: so with reform-tools on Debian Stable, if I want to get access to reform-power-daemon, is the best way to check it out from git and run it from there right now? is that what you do?21:42
cwebberoh, this really is a simple script, huh21:44
cwebberI have been finding that the rk3588 on the pocket in gnome, even when plugged in, crashes randomly very frequently21:46
cwebberis that partly what reform-power-daemon is trying to address?21:46
cwebberalso it feels like there are two worlds of debian being run with the reform rn21:50
cwebberunstable and stable21:50
cwebberis that right?21:50
cwebberhow is it running debian testing on the (pocket) reform?21:50
cwebberwhen I have run debian historically, that's what I've wanted to run21:50
gsorasigrid: wait there's a uboot that shows up on the reform2 screen? 21:51
gsoramine doesn't show anything until the kernel boots21:51
sigridnope, there isn't21:52
sigridit just has a specific device tree21:52
gsoraah okay21:52
gsorafeared I missed an important development lol21:53
sigridyou probably want to watch https://source.mnt.re/reform/mnt-reform-barebox/21:54
gsoraoh, til21:56
gsorathank you for the pointers21:56
gsorawith all the rk3588 improvements lately my interest for the qcomm board is greatly diminished 21:58
joschthe qualcom board cannot (yet) do kvm which makes it unfit for many things i do with a computer, sadly :/22:08
joschcwebber: you could also upgrade to reform-tools from trixie-backports22:08
joschcwebber: do you have charger board v2?22:09
joschcwebber: running debian testing should work with the kernel from trixie or trixie-backports22:09
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