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| vagrantc | well, seems to record the bottom charge ... yay for surprise poweroff :) | 01:37 |
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| vagrantc | and now i have the familiar ???% in the OLED display... | 01:38 |
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| josch | unfortunately vagrant is offline now but the answer to their question was that reform-tools is currently spending an unusually long time in backports-new: https://ftp-master.debian.org/backports-new.html | 04:16 |
| josch | i'll write them an email | 04:16 |
| sigrid | gordon1: i replicated your results of 50Mb/s and got rid of those patches. don't think this is worth anything | 04:18 |
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| grimmware | minute: fair play, those last shots of the Next are fucking stunning. It's a real beauty. | 11:13 |
| josch | grimmware: i've got to hold one in my hands and it feels just as awesome as it looks. | 11:14 |
| josch | also surprisingly light | 11:14 |
| gordon1 | sigrid: yey, science! | 11:19 |
| gordon1 | tbh arm64 aes has acceptable performance, just having a bit more to be able to fully load pcie nvme would be nice, but oh well | 11:20 |
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| grimmware | josch: my pocket is an absolute weapon with the big batteries in. I ain't mad. | 12:27 |
| josch | :D | 12:27 |
| grimmware | If there's a mobo v2 released at some point I'm keen to see what a 3d printed reform chassis with all the parts in weighs... | 12:27 |
| josch | why only when there is a v2? | 12:28 |
| grimmware | I assume that's the first standalone mobo that will turn up in the shop and then I can use my old one to build out a separate machine | 12:32 |
| gordon1 | https://files.catbox.moe/mubiir.png let's see how it goes | 12:39 |
| gordon1 | no antenna yet, just dimensions check | 12:39 |
| gordon1 | i bet they will be unhappy about this 0.8mm bridge underneath the ethernet port | 12:40 |
| josch | gordon1: you made the side panel a pcb? You could get inspired by the sidepanel for Desktop Reform which is also a pcb and comes with LEDs and stuff :D | 12:41 |
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| gordon1 | josch: yes yes, this is exactly the plan, to have wifi antenna in this side pcb, i even found design that should fit https://litter.catbox.moe/x3hvq1.png | 12:43 |
| gordon1 | just need to find out how to tune it for 1mm FR4 instead of 1.6mm | 12:44 |
| gordon1 | josch: actually also i think i can employ eevblog patented flip smd led mouting with a hole underneath to have some lights as well! | 12:46 |
| josch | uuuh :) | 12:46 |
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| jah | UPS just dropped a pocket reform being my door, it's christmas before its time | 13:33 |
| jah | behind* | 13:33 |
| minute | noice | 13:40 |
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| gordon1 | wow jlc did not complain about 0.8mm bridge, i wonder if it will work out | 15:50 |
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| josch | gordon1: i fear it will break in action unless you are super careful when handling it :( | 16:16 |
| gordon1 | fortunately broken bits could easily be filed down | 16:17 |
| gordon1 | and you'll get the v2 with this bridge removed for free :) | 16:18 |
| gordon1 | but yeah i hope it will be fine, i always underestimated FR4 but it has pretty good rigidity | 16:19 |
| josch | could somebody who had the old pocket reform backplate confirm that this is how the old backplate looks like, the one which was fully covered with a copper layer: https://community.mnt.re/t/wifi-dropping-constantly/3121/17 | 16:58 |
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| jah | I'm glad purple is my favorite color, the pocket looks absolutely stunning! | 18:12 |
| jah | just cross-compiled a custom keyboard firmware from my nixos workstation \o/ | 18:12 |
| jah | now it is time to break it I guess | 18:12 |
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| frickler | josch: yes, that's how my old one looks like, minus the pads | 18:13 |
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| minute | just installed kdenlive on gnome on the next and all icons in the UI are missing ;/ | 19:57 |
| bkeys | minute, josch: I got my Reform back, I'm really impressed with what you guys did! | 19:58 |
| minute | bkeys: oh, happy to hear! | 19:58 |
| bkeys | Remind me of where I can get the most up to date uboot? I'm gonna see about getting Fedora back on here | 19:58 |
| bkeys | It will boot from SD card when one is present, right? | 19:58 |
| minute | bkeys: after updating apt and upgrading reform-tools, sudo reform-flash-uboot emmc | 19:59 |
| minute | bkeys: correct @ sd card | 19:59 |
| bkeys | minute: Yes but I would think I need the raw image to dd if I'm gonna put Fedora on it | 19:59 |
| bkeys | I'll see if I can get Fedora on the SD card, then I will repeat it on the emmc | 20:00 |
| minute | bkeys: what's your backup plan if that fails, and you can't boot from emmc anymore? | 20:00 |
| minute | bkeys: yeah, sounds good @ sd | 20:00 |
| bkeys | minute: Won't I be able to boot from SD and fix it? | 20:00 |
| minute | bkeys: USB stick could also work and should be faster (if it's superspeed) | 20:00 |
| minute | bkeys: not if the uboot kind of half works. but if it still works then yes. i mean, if something goes wrong between the fedora dd and the uboot reinstall. | 20:01 |
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| grimmware | jah: congrats! | 20:10 |
| minute | josch: kdenlive or one of it's deps (more likely) is missing a dependency on qt6-svg-plugins | 20:13 |
| bkeys | minute: Do I use the uboot with dsi or not? I know you guys did something with that | 20:20 |
| minute | bkeys: dsi | 20:20 |
| minute | bkeys: yes. i took out the hdmi adapter and connected dsi | 20:21 |
| minute | josch: installed pitivi, > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'scipy' | 20:27 |
| minute | weird | 20:27 |
| minute | josch: seems pitivi is missing dependency python3-scipy | 20:28 |
| bkeys | Did we ever get the uboot showing up on the main display or do I need to get my TTL adapter out? | 20:31 |
| bremner | I _think_ serial console or bust, at least on my firmware | 20:35 |
| kfx | assuming this is the rcore, there's no u-boot video | 20:52 |
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| grimmware | yeah you need to get your TTL adapter out | 20:59 |
| bkeys | What is the baud rate? | 21:05 |
| gordon1 | i wonder if it has any chance of working https://litter.catbox.moe/8oj985.png | 21:06 |
| gordon1 | i have to test it first before ordering | 21:06 |
| bkeys | nvm I found it | 21:08 |
| gordon1 | is it possible to yolo it or should i learn NEC2++? | 21:11 |
| minute | 39c3 assembly https://events.ccc.de/congress/2025/hub/de/assembly/detail/mnt-research | 21:15 |
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| rick_ | ohh nice, i definitely come over and say hello :3 | 21:45 |
| bkeys | minute: I did get Fedora showing up on the screen with the SD card | 21:49 |
| bkeys | Mainline kernel, the works | 21:49 |
| bkeys | So now I'm looking to try it on the emmc, do I need to be concerned about the boot0 and boot1 devices on here? Do I need to do anything to unlock the emmc first? Or do I just write to /dev/mmcblk0 ? | 21:50 |
| minute | boot0 and boot1 are not used and ignored by rk3588 | 21:57 |
| bkeys | Hmm, it seems it tricked me | 22:12 |
| bkeys | minute: I think it was using the emmc's uboot all along, now I try to write to emmc and reboot and I figure this truth out | 22:12 |
| bkeys | So how do I force it to boot from the SD card? | 22:12 |
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| kfx | bkeys: gotta overwrite the u-boot on emmc with zeros or gibberish or something, then it'll fall back to sd | 22:24 |
| kfx | installed motherboard 3.0, everything lights up, current is being used ... no video, nothing on serial :( time to take it apart and reseat everything | 22:25 |
| bkeys | kfx: Well now I'm getting nothing out of serial | 22:31 |
| bkeys | And I get nothing out of emmc | 22:31 |
| bkeys | I hope it's not bricked | 22:31 |
| kfx | make sure the sd card has u-boot written at the correct offset | 22:32 |
| bkeys | What is the correct offset? | 22:32 |
| kfx | I think it's 64 blocks but I always forget and have to do the math from the reform-flash-uboot script https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/blob/main/bin/reform-flash-uboot?ref_type=heads | 22:33 |
| bkeys | I'll just flash the whole system image there for now | 22:37 |
| minute | bkeys: exactly what i tried to warn you about. | 22:41 |
| bkeys | yes i know this is on me | 22:41 |
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| kfx | minute: I filed a support ticket about the trouble I'm having with the new mainboard; please let me know if I can provide more information of use | 23:01 |
| bkeys | minute: Good news is I can boot from SD card | 23:10 |
| bkeys | And I can boot from the Fedora install I put on the emmc, so if I can flash uboot on the emmc properly I should be a happy sailor | 23:11 |
| bkeys | Does anyone know what the exact dd command I should use it? | 23:11 |
| minute | bkeys: sudo dd if=rk3588-mnt-reform2-dsi-flash.bin of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=512 seek=64 status=progress | 23:15 |
| bkeys | Will try | 23:16 |
| bkeys | minute: So that command did get a working uboot on my reform so there is hope | 23:17 |
| bkeys | Model: MNT Reform 2 with RCORE-DSI RK3588 Module | 23:18 |
| bkeys | DRAM: initcall failed at call 0000000000a03e68 (err=-19: No such device) | 23:18 |
| bkeys | ### ERROR ### Please RESET the board ### | 23:18 |
| bkeys | But now I got hit with this | 23:18 |
| minute | ugh what | 23:18 |
| bkeys | I mean it's not a hardware issue because the SD card works flawlessly | 23:18 |
| minute | still? | 23:18 |
| bkeys | I can boot from SD card without issue | 23:19 |
| minute | like, even after doing that command, yes? | 23:19 |
| bkeys | Before I was getting no output, I run your dd command and now I get that output | 23:19 |
| minute | ah ok | 23:19 |
| minute | i'm sorry but i have a headache and it's 11pm and i can't offer any more support today | 23:20 |
| minute | good luck! | 23:20 |
| bkeys | No problem, thank you for all you do brother | 23:20 |
| minute | i'm not a brother, but sure | 23:20 |
| bkeys | I apologize | 23:20 |
| bkeys | Does anyone know of a way to enter MaskRom mode? | 23:33 |
| josch | bkeys: the answer to most your questions above about boot0/boot1, offsets etc are in the machine.conf files | 23:49 |
| cwebber | heyo josch | 23:49 |
| josch | these files are used by the scripts like reform-flash-uboot to do the right thing depending on the board | 23:49 |
| josch | cwebber: _o/ | 23:50 |
| josch | bkeys: with most recent reform-tools you also have the --zero option for reform-flash-uboot which is for cases like yours above where you want to overwrite u-boot on emmc so that it uses u-boot from sd-card | 23:50 |
| bkeys | josch: Yeah but right now the problem is that I have what appears to be a damaged uboot on the emmc | 23:51 |
| bkeys | So it won't read the undamaged one from the SD card, do you know of a way around this? | 23:52 |
| josch | i cannot promise anything because i am not firm in the underlying technical details but do you have the full output via serial? | 23:53 |
| josch | i think you have rcore-dsi rk3588 classic reform, right? | 23:53 |
| bkeys | Yes I do | 23:54 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 23:55 | |
| bkeys | josch: https://paste.centos.org/view/34aaef0e | 23:55 |
| bkeys | https://wiki.t-firefly.com/en/iCore-3588Q/upgrade_maskrom_mode.html | 23:56 |
| josch | your connection is somehow unreliable? | 23:58 |
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