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| rick_ | Morning: there was a discussion here about a better alternative to dunst for notifications a few weeks ago. What was ne name again? I actually love dunst, but what i miss is a marker in the tray that i have missed/unread notifs open. I just kinda overlook the notifs from dunst ^^v | 09:35 |
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| MartiniMoe | rick_: There is mako, which is basically dunst, but wayland native, if I get it right. But what I am using with sway is https://github.com/ErikReider/SwayNotificationCenter bescause it gives you an icon in the tray that shows missed notifications in a nice notification center style :) | 09:45 |
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| rick_ | MartiniMoe oh heck, swaynotficationcenter seems like exactly what i was looking for. Gonna check it out! Thanks!! | 10:07 |
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| ch | super weird | 12:58 |
| ch | the intel be200 card doesnt come up on pcie | 12:58 |
| ch | the card is not completely dead, on usb i can see its bluetooth part | 12:59 |
| ch | josch: do you happen to know what i need to manage the modem / make a connection? | 13:00 |
| josch | ch: you mean which AT commands to send? | 13:01 |
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| ch | either that or which tools i need to install | 13:01 |
| ch | i vaguely know there is modemmanager, is that what i want? | 13:01 |
| josch | i talked to the quectel modem via its serial line but those were experiments. If you want to use it simply to get internet, yes install modemmanager | 13:02 |
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| josch | and if you use the gui, also modem-manager-gui | 13:02 |
| ch | thanks | 13:06 |
| josch | and if you are using gnome, gnome settings also has some gui elements to set up apn | 13:10 |
| ch | something in my pocket makes noises | 13:20 |
| ch | i find that weird | 13:20 |
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| grimmware | I've found that my charger makes a noise when switching from charging to subsistence current | 13:34 |
| grimmware | I've also discovered that whatever battery imbalance just gets worse and worse with every discharge | 13:34 |
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| josch | i also have a problem with my pocket and these issues coincide with the addition of the wifi port board and intel ax210. sway dies, i see the console and get a huge backtrace from the kernel indicating issues with wifi | 13:39 |
| josch | here is the dmesg output from yesterday: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bf2d1fda | 13:41 |
| josch | but the same happened just now | 13:41 |
| josch | i'm going to disable wifi for now and see if it makes a difference | 13:42 |
| grimmware | I'm going to take a look at the sysctl to see if the configuration of the charging circuit is implicated because I've seen these problems for a while requiring external rebalancing and someone on the forums suggested it was potentially a sysctl firmware update that caused it to start for them | 13:44 |
| grimmware | so I've been checking the implementation against the datasheet in part for my own understanding | 13:44 |
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| minute | ch: the rk3588 module can make a bunch of coil whine/probably capacitor whine | 14:16 |
| minute | grimmware: the more eyes on this code, the better | 14:17 |
| minute | reminds me we wanted to put the values from the max batter monitor/balancer's windows config tool in the firmware | 14:17 |
| minute | s/batter/battery | 14:18 |
| minute | josch: "bridge configuration invalid" sounds like pcie connection issue | 14:19 |
| minute | josch: perhaps cable issue | 14:19 |
| josch | oh whoops, i'll have a look, thank you! | 14:19 |
| minute | josch: i can still improve that cable a lot | 14:20 |
| minute | like, make custom flex like for the next. right now it's just off the shelf fpc which doesn't have amazing SI | 14:20 |
| minute | josch: btw there's a kernel config option we really want, to debug low level pcie link stuff | 14:21 |
| josch | if it should be active by default, just put it at the end of reform-debian-packages:linux/config | 14:21 |
| minute | yep, i already did, i just wanted to share the info with you, digging up the correct link/MR part | 14:23 |
| minute | josch: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/145/diffs?commit_id=6080f0e1ca19f471eb09a455f79565cc1a685b42 | 14:24 |
| minute | josch: the whole MR can't be merged because afaik the patches for eGPU support lower the NVMe speed, for example, still need to work on that | 14:25 |
| minute | josch: i.e. i need to find out which of the patches can affect nvme performance and then make a kernel module option for turning them on, perhaps per-controller. then people who want to use eGPU can turn that on in their kernel commandline | 14:26 |
| josch | ah okay, i saw the MR but indeed had not noticed that commit in the middle | 14:26 |
| josch | right, that sounds sensible | 14:26 |
| minute | josch: with the patch enabled one can get a lot of debug information of the designware pcie controller, including the state of the link/link training | 14:26 |
| minute | josch: and error counters | 14:27 |
| minute | josch: i mean with CONFIG_PCIE_DW_DEBUGFS | 14:27 |
| josch | right, maybe you want to cherry pick that one to main immediately? | 14:27 |
| josch | (i'm currently battling picotool on s390x :D) | 14:28 |
| minute | josch: yeah, i can't do it right now as i'm in a hurry but i'll do it later | 14:28 |
| josch | (and luckily with rk3588 i have a platform that can emulate it well enough such that the machine boots -- a311d is so slow that several services simply timeout during boot...) | 14:28 |
| minute | grimmware: there's a windows tool for advanced configuration of MAX17320G20+, you might wanna check it out | 14:28 |
| minute | josch: oh nice :D | 14:29 |
| josch | minute: awesome, i also cannot do it right now because apparently train blocks ssh XD | 14:29 |
| minute | uff :D | 14:30 |
| josch | and we finally got feedback on the openrgb MR upstream -- i'm trying to get back to my gitlab account to reply :) | 14:31 |
| minute | grimmware: https://www.analog.com/en/resources/evaluation-hardware-and-software/embedded-development-software/software-download.html?swpart=SFW0014960A | 14:31 |
| minute | josch: oh yes, i saw that, cool! | 14:31 |
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| ch | minute: did you have a 'good settings' export from the analog tool? | 15:26 |
| ch | minute: when i looked at it i mostly didnt know which settings would be good | 15:26 |
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| ch | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=303611 interesting (be200 not showing up in lspci) | 15:36 |
| minute | ch: you have non vpro version? | 15:39 |
| ch | https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230078/intel-wifi-7-be200/specifications.html says nothing about vpro | 15:41 |
| ch | but maybe i should have gotten a be202 which explicitly says no for vpro | 15:41 |
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| ch | right | 15:46 |
| ch | https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230078/intel-wifi-7-be200/ordering.html | 15:46 |
| ch | probably the vpro version | 15:47 |
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| ch | getting a new card then, plus some antennas | 16:08 |
| ch | didnt expect mouser to have all that stuff | 16:09 |
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| ch | grimmware: jtr, at 0% my batts showed 3.3V and 3.1V, with charger plugged 3.8V and 3.7V | 16:53 |
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| josch | minute: thank you for giving me the tip that there is 3.3 V on the sysctl -- it perfectly powers a RK2040 for my "on" switch and simplifies things a lot :) | 18:33 |
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| minute | ch: grimmware: that voltage jump is normal. it's the charge voltage being applied | 20:51 |
| minute | josch: nice | 20:51 |
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| josch | nice, dolphin emulates at around 90% to 100% on rk3588 :) | 22:25 |
| minute | josch: if you set the gpu freq to 1 ghz and cpu governors to performance, maybe even 100% all the time! | 22:35 |
| josch | yeah, i read your post on community.mnt.re about the freq and governors and didn't try it out yet but wonder why it is like that? Should the frequency not automatically be scaled to meet the demand or is the governor just bad? | 22:36 |
| josch | (slightly related: the back of the display of my pocket reform is currently being cooled to 77°C by an 80 mm fan so that it compiles faster :D) | 22:37 |
| minute | josch: the governor is bad | 22:40 |
| minute | josch: i.e. the "simple_ondemand" one for the gpu | 22:40 |
| josch | i wonder if we want/need more convenience scripts to work around these things | 22:40 |
| minute | josch: well, i just had all this struggle with getting the rk3588 not to brownout in pocket reform | 22:41 |
| josch | also for the audio (remembering selfawaresoup's little script to set audio output) | 22:41 |
| josch | hehe yes but what about us classic users? :D | 22:41 |
| minute | josch: the audio is a side effect of using sway i think | 22:41 |
| josch | o0 | 22:42 |
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| minute | josch: sway just doesn't have good UI for audio | 22:42 |
| josch | how do you then switch headphone/speaker in gnome? | 22:42 |
| minute | josch: we had an internal project to make a better control panel for sway but it didn't go anywhere unfortunately | 22:42 |
| minute | josch: well i just use the gnome shell UI for that | 22:42 |
| minute | i'll make you a screenshot, one second | 22:43 |
| minute | ah, one more second, need to redact sth | 22:44 |
| minute | josch: https://minute.social/secret-room/Screenshot%20From%202025-11-30%2022-42-59.png | 22:45 |
| minute | these are the things that made me migrate from sway to gnome | 22:46 |
| josch | i've never seen that! o0 | 22:46 |
| minute | oh ok | 22:46 |
| minute | josch: it's when you click the triangle button next to the volume bar | 22:47 |
| josch | is this with vanilla system image? that's what i keep testing | 22:47 |
| minute | yes of course | 22:47 |
| josch | okay, the triangle button | 22:47 |
| josch | i'll be clicking that tomorrow :) | 22:47 |
| minute | yeah, now that you say it, they could've made that more obvious | 22:47 |
| minute | i also use evolution + the gnome calendar integration with my CalDAV server etc, quite nice | 22:48 |
| minute | also with planify which _almost_ works well | 22:48 |
| josch | nice, i'll check these things out! | 22:49 |
| josch | for sway, i maybe want more waybar buttons or something | 22:50 |
| minute | josch: you could also use the existing pasystray -> set default sink, but that's a bit of a hassle of course | 22:57 |
| minute | josch: but yeah, a button would be also quite easy to do | 22:58 |
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| josch | maybe i start liking gnome suffiently enough once i find a good tiling option for it (there are some i can try, like paperwm) | 22:58 |
| + rick_ (~m-x42ph2@m.n0id.space) | 22:59 | |
| minute | josch: ah also i think we're still missing an alsa UCM profile for classic reform rk3588 (which uses wm8960 audio chip) | 23:04 |
| minute | ohhh interesting https://flathub.org/en/apps/com.saivert.pwvucontrol | 23:05 |
| minute | pretty sweet tool, just the UI design has a mini issue (position of the "Silence" label on the VU bars) | 23:07 |
| josch | yes, classic is missing ucm profile | 23:07 |
| josch | that probably means that i'll only be seeing what you show in your screenshot on the pocket | 23:07 |
| minute | josch: i just checked, it works on the classic out of the box without ucm profile | 23:08 |
| minute | josch: i got headphone and speaker options there | 23:08 |
| josch | o0 | 23:09 |
| josch | okay! | 23:09 |
| josch | confirmed, i can switch between speaker and headphones on rk3588 classic reform by clicking the triangle | 23:12 |
| josch | somehow my buttons are blue though not purple like yours | 23:13 |
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| minute | josch: that's the accent color setting | 23:16 |
| minute | josch: gnome-control-center (Settings) -> Appearance | 23:17 |
| minute | josch: -> Accent Color | 23:17 |
| josch | maybe purple would be a better default? | 23:19 |
| minute | josch: now that you mention it, it would make a lot of sense | 23:21 |
| josch | it looks quite fitting in your screenshot :) | 23:21 |
| minute | right | 23:22 |
| minute | need to find the gsettings key for that :D | 23:22 |
| josch | i usually dume gsettings before and after clicking a button to a file and then diff | 23:23 |
| josch | *dump | 23:23 |
| josch | it seems to not be stored by gsettings, maybe dconf | 23:32 |
| josch | yeah it's in org/gnome/deskop/interface accent-color | 23:38 |
| minute | josch: feel free to add to the gschema! | 23:41 |
| josch | this might do it (will test tomorrow): https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/150 | 23:48 |
| josch | oh whoops | 23:49 |
| josch | that's gdm XD | 23:49 |
| josch | oooooh we are doing this via reform-system-image | 23:56 |
| josch | there we set /etc/dconf/db/local.d/reform | 23:56 |
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