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| + MartiniMoe (~moe@p5b001865.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 08:39 | |
| MartiniMoe | This is a kinda off-topic question, hope its okay to ask, but since I'm thinking about improving my IRC setup: Are you people using any IRC-Bouncer? If so: which software are you using as a bouncer? And what IRC Client are you using? I'm currently considering different setups, but haven't decided yet :D | 08:45 |
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| MartiniMoe | I'm currently thinking about setting up soju as bouncer and trying senpai as a cient. | 08:45 |
| josch | Me personally I'm not using a bouncer. I have a webserver which is on 24/7. I log into that one via ssh (via mosh) and it has irssi running inside a tmux session 24/7. | 08:53 |
| martins | i'm using irctoday.com hosted bouncer. it works fine. | 09:02 |
| jah | MartiniMoe: I tried those first (sojo end senpain) but I was disapointed at the lack of support to clean history (in case it use too much space), that feature does not exists yet, keep in mind those are still in development and not at stable versions | 09:47 |
| jah | eventually I went with Quassel, pretty happy about it | 09:47 |
| jah | senpai* :D | 09:48 |
| MartiniMoe | jah: Thanks, thats valuable insight :) Are you running a quassel core on a server and connect to that? | 10:02 |
| jah | MartiniMoe: yes exactly! if you have more question I suggest we move to #quassel so we don't do too much OT talk here :) | 10:12 |
| + gidzit (~gidzit@gidzit.org) | 10:22 | |
| josch | (personally, i think that "how can we best chat with the MNT community" is not super-off-topic and especially when there is no conversation which is more on-topic going on, some light conversation about this is fine) | 10:25 |
| jah | josch: noted. that's good to hear, that's make the best channels in my opinion... I had so many great discussion where this is tolerated :) | 10:34 |
| jah | what makes* | 10:34 |
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| MartiniMoe | Thank you all for you input :) much appreciated! I will look into the different mentioned options, maybe on the weekend and try some of them to see what suits my needs best | 11:00 |
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| * wielaard -> mjw | 11:17 | |
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| aloo_shu | irc bouncers are a terrible invention, the irc client protocol is good for everything but not relaying, that's the server protocol. the only way bouncers ever took off, was terrorizing users by interpreting their intermittent connections as acts of hostility (nothing in the irc protocol forces clients to insert join/part/quit data in the chat flow) | 11:55 |
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| * amk_ -> amk | 12:05 | |
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| - mjw (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~mjw@178.230.53.44) | 12:08 | |
| bremner | o.O | 12:09 |
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| + gustav25 (~gustav@c-92-32-81-177.bbcust.telenor.se) | 13:02 | |
| rick_ | I use heisenberg bridge with my matrix server and it works great. At least i didn't hear any complaints from you or other irc rooms that i somehow disturb the room ^^ | 13:08 |
| rick_ | *heisenbridge ;) | 13:11 |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 13:12 | |
| arjan | MartiniMoe: I use the pounce bouncer running on a guix server and use erc in emacs or revolution in android as clients | 13:32 |
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| + MartiniMoe (~quassel@2a03:4000:46:170::) | 14:09 | |
| erle | irc via xmpp transport works great for spotty connections. i am not using it now, but i used to do it when i traveled more (trains can go into tunnels and germany has spotty mobile coverage anyway). | 14:16 |
| - MartiniMoe (QUIT: Changing host) (~quassel@2a03:4000:46:170::) | 14:16 | |
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| * MartiniMoe -> MartiniMoe_ | 14:16 | |
| * MartiniMoe_ -> MartiniMoe__ | 14:17 | |
| * MartiniMoe__ -> MartiniMoe | 14:18 | |
| elb | this firmware divergence between pocket and next seems pretty manageable | 14:21 |
| elb | trackball vs trackpad is large, but completely disjoint | 14:21 |
| jfred | MartiniMoe: I have a Sourcehut account and they host an instance of soju (plus a web interface) at chat.sr.ht for subscribers, so I use that. Senpai for terminal use on my Pocket Reform, and Goguma for mobile use (which I'm on right now) | 14:22 |
| MartiniMoe | jfred: oh wow, I also have a sourcehut account, but did not know about this, thanks a lot! | 14:27 |
| + mjw (~mjw@2001:1c00:2a07:3a01:e4e2:af5b:bbd7:5c24) | 14:30 | |
| Zaba | yeah same, I’ve been pretty happy with sourcehut’s soju | 14:33 |
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| jfred | elb: Ooh, that made me read the scrollback a bit - unified kb firmware sounds useful! | 14:38 |
| jfred | I didn't think about the fact that the keyboard fw was in the reform/pocket repos until now. Seems challenging to keep them in sync | 14:39 |
| + jahkosha (~jahkosha@user/jahkosha) | 14:52 | |
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| * jahkosha -> jah | 14:53 | |
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| + buckket (~buckket@vps.buckket.org) | 15:38 | |
| [tj] | has anyone here looked at what scmi offers on rk3588 (or has any idea how to check) ? | 15:39 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 265 seconds) (~mjw@2001:1c00:2a07:3a01:e4e2:af5b:bbd7:5c24) | 16:44 | |
| josch | so... there is a problem but maybe it isn't a problem because nobody has reported this issue so far? | 16:54 |
| josch | if you never updated your u-boot on pocket reform than the current system images are non-functional | 16:54 |
| josch | the problem is, that we enabled u-boot-menu and on platforms with a u-boot which does not set ${fdtfile}, extlinux.conf will be tried first but fail because it cannot load the device tree | 16:55 |
| josch | not a big deal because if u-boot cannot boot form extlinux.conf it falls back to boot.scr, right? | 16:55 |
| josch | the problem is that even though it does fall back to boot.scr, u-boot *keeps* the ${bootargs} set by extlinux.conf | 16:56 |
| josch | and extlinux.conf has two entries, both fail but the second entry is the "rescue" target, so it includes the "single" kernel cmdline option | 16:56 |
| josch | or did we maybe see this problem in the forum? Is that the problem that users had when they said that even with a fresh system image all they get is a root terminal and not the graphical reform-setup-wizard? | 16:57 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@178.230.53.44) | 17:22 | |
| minute | josch: aha, interesting. a root terminal is not that bad though? | 17:39 |
| minute | elb: nice :D that would allow to make funny hybrid reforms like pocket reform with a trackpad | 17:40 |
| minute | (not that it would fit anywhere) | 17:40 |
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| + wickedshell (~wickedshe@c-98-60-138-166.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) | 17:54 | |
| elb | minute: yeah, I think part of this effort will probably be splitting the various HID devices into logically discrete components, so that you could mix and match keyboard, trackball, touchpad, gamepad, media keys, whatever | 18:06 |
| elb | right now the keyboard is very clearly ruling the roost and I'm not changing that in my current efforts, but it feels like it's along the right path | 18:07 |
| elb | although maybe the keyboard stays central and "other stuff" is logically discrete, we'll see | 18:07 |
| elb | interesting, when swaylock locks my screen, it's doing the fade to black thing | 18:19 |
| elb | https://toobnix.org/w/5he23qx3DpPhq45Qx9PCus | 18:24 |
| elb | I should say that at some point in the past (not forever ago) it blanked cleanly | 18:29 |
| wytch | does the audio board in the pocket reform support headsets with a trrs plug and micropghone? for some reason my mic isn't recognized on my headset | 18:41 |
| wytch | or do I need to use a usb sound card? | 18:42 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~mjw@178.230.53.44) | 18:50 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@178.230.53.44) | 18:50 | |
| minute | elb: the fade to black is because the driver doesn't set the display to sleep mode currently (because it wouldn't wake up for some panels) | 18:58 |
| + AnimaInvicta (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 18:59 | |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 244 seconds) (~mjw@178.230.53.44) | 19:02 | |
| elb | I see | 19:10 |
| minute | elb: (something i'm working on off+on) | 19:29 |
| elb | doesn't feel urgent to me :-) | 19:36 |
| elb | I guess it might mean the battery lasts longer on a locked screen | 19:36 |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 19:54 | |
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| * enwu3 -> enwu | 20:41 | |
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| minute | cool, got reform-system-image booted on quasar | 22:07 |
| minute | we'll need to ship some additional firmware :D | 22:08 |
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| minute | (firmware-qcom-soc) | 22:11 |
| minute | MartiniMoe: i use weechat-relay as a bouncer and connect to it with https://glowing-bear.org | 22:13 |
| - gustav25 (QUIT: Quit: Quit) (~gustav@c-92-32-81-177.bbcust.telenor.se) | 22:15 | |
| + vagrantc (~vagrant@2600:3c01:e000:21:7:77:0:50) | 22:21 | |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 22:26 | |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 22:27 | |
| vagrantc | so, building a 6.17.x kernel for mnt/reform, i see two merge requests: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/144 and https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/139 ... i've successfully tested the patches in !139 with 6.17.5 ... but should !144 also generally be in a working state? | 22:32 |
| vagrantc | diffing patches of patches gets a bit tricky to read :) | 22:33 |
| vagrantc | and are the patches in https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-debian-packages/-/merge_requests/143 sufficient to get wake from suspend to actually work with mnt/reform rk3588 ? | 22:34 |
| vagrantc | or is that just a necessary but incmplete part of the puzzle? | 22:34 |
| - paperManu_ (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~paperManu@107.159.15.124) | 22:45 | |
| minute | vagrantc: suspend stuff is still in development | 23:06 |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@142.169.16.48) | 23:09 | |
| vagrantc | minute: ok, thanks! :) | 23:11 |
| - mjw (QUIT: Ping timeout: 264 seconds) (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 23:23 | |
| - AnimaInvicta (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~AnimaInvi@88-120-179-216.subs.proxad.net) | 23:29 | |
| - paperManu_ (QUIT: Read error: Connection reset by peer) (~paperManu@142.169.16.48) | 23:48 | |
| + AshCurry (~AshCurry@user/AshCurry) | 23:55 | |
| aloo_shu | soju + goguma / senpai , weechat + relay client, all prove the point about the irc client protocol (RFC 2812) not being good for relaying: one solution enhances the 2nd leg of the connection with extensions and specific integrations, the other uses a dedicated protocol | 23:55 |
| aloo_shu | quassel, same story, or attaching to remote session via ssh: there something more, or different, than an irc client to an irc client | 23:55 |
| - chomwitt (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a5f:900:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 23:59 | |
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