| minute | elb: hmmmm ok | 00:01 |
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| minute | i wonder if there's some new-ish gpu or other related driver issue, but that will be hard to catch without serial logging | 00:02 |
| minute | and on holo_memory's pocket this issue disappeared now somehow | 00:02 |
| minute | heisenbug | 00:02 |
| vagrantc | how do i determine which lpc firmware to flash? ... it's a reform classic from a crowdfunding campaign in .. 2019? | 00:14 |
| vagrantc | last time i built the lpc firmware i think there only was one model... | 00:15 |
| elb | yeah I've been pondering mounting a serial port so I can get to it more easily | 00:15 |
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| elb | I saw someone put one on a 1/16" jack or something, that seems very doable in the blank space on the headphone board end | 00:16 |
| elb | but that only helps if I'm sitting here at my desk, not at the coffee shop or in lecture | 00:16 |
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| minute | vagrantc: ohhh. well it's probably R2 | 01:00 |
| minute | elb: right. i also don't want you to have additional trouble/overhead because of this | 01:01 |
| minute | what still puzzles me if this issue you and some others are seeing is at all power stability related or not, or if it is a software (kernel) issue | 01:02 |
| minute | i've determined that the current batteries+charger board combo isn't designed/strong enough for fully loading rk3588 and all brightnesses and additional usb devices, i.e. it has maybe around 20W max power target, and if one does all of those at once, it can go a bunch over 20W. | 01:04 |
| minute | but this doesn't explain why there are spontaneous reboots even in pretty low current situations in the last week. | 01:04 |
| minute | weeks | 01:04 |
| minute | (i.e. if you see 3-4A current, that's a bit more than it was originally designed for. but i almost never see such numbers) | 01:05 |
| minute | (in normal use i mean) | 01:06 |
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| vagrantc | minute: i see 20_R3 25_R2 and 30_R1 ... so ... 25_R2 ? | 01:30 |
| minute | vagrantc: ah sorry for confusing you. try 20_R3 first | 01:30 |
| vagrantc | minute: thanks for all the iterations :) | 01:31 |
| minute | vagrantc: if you can't turn the reform on with that or on/off modes are inverted, try 25_R2 | 01:31 |
| vagrantc | ok, well, i've managed to get my mnt-firmware package updated for debian, although will probably have to put off updating the firmware for antoehr day (also only was able to build the reform2-lpc-fw variants, not the keyboard, trackball, trackpad, etc. but am probably missing some dependencies not yet packaged in Debian) | 01:33 |
| vagrantc | i really made a lot of silly mistakes with makefile syntax ... *sigh* ... been too long | 01:34 |
| vagrantc | off to other adventures ... | 01:34 |
| vagrantc | ACTION waves | 01:34 |
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| elb | minute: eh, I bought this because of what it is, and this is part of what it is :-) | 04:00 |
| elb | I don't think I've ever even seen 2A of current when I've been looking | 04:01 |
| elb | I honestly don't work mine that hard, most of the time | 04:01 |
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| josch | minute: could we add a serial terminal emulator to the default installation? The handbook suggests tio. Installing it takes only 256kB of extra space. What are your thoughts about adding it to the system image by default? | 10:11 |
| minute | josch: oh yeah, i thought tio was already in the defaults | 10:46 |
| minute | elb: ok cool! | 10:47 |
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| minute | elb: do you have some spare little m2 screws? or i guess you could borrow 2 from the bottom case plate | 11:31 |
| minute | elb: can you screw down the rcore module with 2 screws, it has two o-shaped golden pads for that | 11:32 |
| minute | elb: and there are matching threads on the motherboard | 11:32 |
| minute | _nrb_: it has shifted to desktop reform, lets see if that can mutate into rackmount again later | 11:41 |
| minute | _nrb_: but good point, i should check how rack compatible the case is/could be | 11:42 |
| josch | i should share a photo of my dust covered MM Board Reform to motivate the Desktop Reform -- we're eagerly waiting :) | 11:47 |
| josch | i'm currently bisecting linux to find the ls1028a emmc issue. Compiling the kernel on rk3588 takes literally 15 minutes versus 6 hours on imx8mq. This is nuts. I'm still feeling bad when another kernel bisect is necessary but with 15 minutes per bisection step instead of 6 hours this is actually not that bad! :D | 11:48 |
| minute | josch: oof that's a really big difference | 11:51 |
| josch | it's so quick that the temperatures do not even manage to get close to 85 °C -- in contrast to my pocket reform which is currently encoding a 1.5 hour lecture recording with ffmpeg and is sitting at 85 °C for an hour already :) | 11:51 |
| minute | about desktop reform, the reason it's not released is mostly my perfectionism | 11:51 |
| josch | no worries, i dig your perfectionism a lot :) | 11:52 |
| josch | i too need a sign on my desk saying "do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good" XD | 11:52 |
| minute | i want another little change of the geometry around usb port covers and motherboard screw access, and i'm not convinced about shipping 3d printed cases | 11:52 |
| minute | josch: hehe yeah | 11:53 |
| minute | still i manage to ship charger boards where a chip can burn out... | 11:53 |
| minute | and so on | 11:53 |
| josch | what's the alternative to 3d printed cases? i thought you rather wanted it to be affordable | 11:53 |
| minute | josch: aluminum cnc of course ;) | 11:53 |
| josch | yes, there are certainly still a few more pressing issues than a new product | 11:53 |
| minute | but also other 3d printing techniques like MJF. probably expensive at that size though | 11:54 |
| josch | great -- i'd definitely spend the extra bucks for the look and feel :) | 11:54 |
| josch | (i was a bit worried when you mentioned that you'd rather go for 3d printed than alu) | 11:54 |
| minute | josch: haha yeah. | 11:57 |
| josch | uuuuh i just read your forum posts re pocket reform -- i'll try that too | 11:57 |
| josch | (i haven't had a reboot for a few weeks now -- the last one was when it was running on battery about 30% and playing a video in mpv) | 11:57 |
| josch | (i recorded a 1.5 hour lecture in 1080p@60 yesterday and am converting that video with ffmpeg today -- no issues... yet... :) ) | 11:58 |
| jahkosha | folks, I did receive an OrangePi board, and I started reading https://www.marcusfolkesson.se/blog/writing-a-clocksource-driver-for-linux/ | 11:59 |
| jahkosha | eventually I would try to help bringing openbsd support on the pocket reform | 11:59 |
| jahkosha | so ... if you have any example or resaurces I could skim thru to understand what it takes? please share, ty | 12:00 |
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| grimmware | minute: what's the goal of screwing the rcore down? (I'm currently doing it) | 12:10 |
| minute | grimmware: better stable contact and grounding | 12:11 |
| minute | jahkosha: openbsd already supports rk3588 as far as i know | 12:11 |
| jahkosha | minute: okay, I'll give it a try and see what happen :) | 12:12 |
| minute | jahkosha: https://www.openbsd.org/arm64.html | 12:12 |
| minute | jahkosha: for the pocket reform, the main missing thing will be internal display support i guess. but maybe hdmi works? | 12:13 |
| jahkosha | minute: good question, I don't have the pocket reform yet, so I'll play around with the orangepi for now and see what works. | 12:15 |
| grimmware | minute: so do you reckon that setting CPU frequency scaling to a more conservative governor (my terminology may be out of date, last time I had to do this I was still on Slackware) should function as a workaround for the brownout issue? | 12:22 |
| josch | there is a problem on a311d with mesa/panfrost from git. The screen freezes for a few minutes with this in dmesg: https://paste.debian.net/1400991/ | 12:23 |
| josch | and there goes my remaining free time XD | 12:23 |
| minute | grimmware: not on its own, but powersave profile can help. the main things that help are dimming the keyboard backlight as much as possible and dimming the screen a bit | 12:27 |
| grimmware | cool | 12:27 |
| grimmware | do you think the extra screws are likely to help or it's just something to try? | 12:28 |
| minute | josch: posted to panfrost channel already? | 12:28 |
| minute | grimmware: since when do you experience brownout resets, and on battery, ac, both? | 12:28 |
| josch | minute: not yet, i'm looking for a more relyable reproducer | 12:29 |
| grimmware | minute: mine are pretty much exclusively on battery at high load around 60-70% battery | 12:29 |
| grimmware | it's usually around 65% and I suddenly do something that spikes load | 12:30 |
| grimmware | I typically don't lower the brightness of backlight or LEDs | 12:30 |
| grimmware | I've been having this issue for some time now | 12:31 |
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| grimmware | incidentally you'll be pleased to know that I've been using the pocket's trackball code as reference material for hacking on my own trackball :) It's helped a lot | 12:39 |
| minute | grimmware: got it, thanks for the data. if you lower/disable the keyboard brightness, does it still happen at 60-70%? | 12:42 |
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| grimmware | minute: I'm just running it down right now, what I'm going to do is test to see if the screws make a difference and then if I get a brownout it tends to brownout during boot subsequently so I can do a couple of tests | 12:44 |
| minute | grimmware: ah yes, makes sense | 12:50 |
| grimmware | I've got 8 parallel `yes > /dev/null` running so it shouldn't take too long ;) | 12:51 |
| minute | grimmware: btw yesterday i burned my charger board by attaching charger in very low battery state while system was on, so if in that state, i recommend turning system off before connecting charger | 12:51 |
| minute | grimmware: ah interesting idea! i usually use 7z b :D | 12:51 |
| grimmware | ack, I'll be careful if it gets any lower than it usually manages | 12:57 |
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| grimmware | josch: just looking at your battery runtime post, would you be interested in borrowing an imx8mp? | 13:13 |
| grimmware | as like, a long term loan that I'll probably forget to ever ask for back | 13:14 |
| grimmware | minute: there we go, brownout at 62% (I noticed it was at that level of battery and launched firefox and it died) | 13:20 |
| grimmware | now browns out whilst trying to decrypt nvme, am just doing a hard reset because the sysctl is in a weird state and I'll try booting with the keyboard backlight off | 13:22 |
| grimmware | oh no sorry it wasn't whilst decrypting nvme, it was on boot after nvme is decrypted | 13:23 |
| grimmware | keyboard backlight off doesn't make any difference and I don't have any control over the screen backlight at this stage | 13:23 |
| grimmware | so basically I can't boot to login under 70ish% battery | 13:24 |
| grimmware | plugging in it's fine. | 13:24 |
| josch | grimmware: oh no XD | 13:28 |
| elb | minute: I just screwed the carrier down | 13:31 |
| elb | my sil pad failed though, I need to get more material | 13:31 |
| elb | I kind of stuck it back in there, but my thermals may not be ideal | 13:31 |
| elb | how thick is the original pad, 1mm? 0.5mm? | 13:32 |
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| chorc | wow, we should screw down the carrier? mine came unscrewed | 13:44 |
| chorc | SoM is unscrewed as well | 13:47 |
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| grimmware | minute: just came back from walking the dog, keyboard LEDs off and screen brightness slightly lowered, the battery was at 60% so I launched firefox and had a brownout. OLED read out that the bottom cell was at 3.0v and the top at 3.3v, they seemed to balance a little when it rebooted. They are rarely the same. | 16:35 |
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| minute | chorc: som cannot be screwed because there are no threads. you could use plastic nuts maybe. but imho the tension is so high that's not needed | 17:10 |
| minute | grimmware: thanks. the batteries are too weak to power the system i think. same as on mine | 17:10 |
| minute | grimmware: i've ordered some 5000mAh cells with almost the same size, will report tomorrow if they deliver enough amps to use them to their full capacity | 17:11 |
| svp | jahkosha: what kind of orange pi board? | 17:20 |
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| grimmware | minute: I feel like I haven't had this problem the entire time on the rk3588 so do you think there's some element of battery degradation at play? | 17:39 |
| grimmware | at any rate, lemme know if you have luck with the batteries, if they're not to expensive I'd be happy to order some to see if I can reproduce | 17:40 |
| grimmware | it's pretty deterministic on my system now so it's a good test case | 17:40 |
| josch | grimmware: i had the reform rebooting at around 30% battery while playing a video also with my different cells fwiw | 17:41 |
| josch | (i didn't have it yet while plugged in even though i compile kernels and encode video for hours on it) | 17:41 |
| grimmware | that's good to know | 17:42 |
| grimmware | tbf I should probably just bite the bullet and try to fit my bigger cells | 17:42 |
| grimmware | they just make me a bit nervous | 17:42 |
| grimmware | it's such a tight fit. | 17:43 |
| chorc | minute: how about the carrier board, should I screw it for grounding, is it an experiment or confirmed? | 17:43 |
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| mhoye | The FSF is making a phone. | 17:48 |
| mhoye | or at least, trying to de-blob some existing phones | 17:48 |
| josch | mhoye: link? | 18:00 |
| josch | quick summary of my day: i'm unable to reproduce the ls1028 emmc/sd bug with a kernel that i build myself from linux upstream git. Independent of whether this is with or without MNT patches and independent on whether i use the full Debian .config or a minimal one. Tomorrow I'll try to also mix the Debian-specific patches in because they should be the last difference between what I am building and what | 18:02 |
| josch | is being built in the reform-debian-packages gitlab CI job | 18:02 |
| jahkosha | svp: it's an orange pi 5 with 4gb, not sure if I can be more specific, so I guess that answer your question? | 18:05 |
| svp | yeah was just a little curious, i had a opi cm5 that only later i found out wasnt actually usable in the reform kit, at least it was a good server for a bit | 18:07 |
| jahkosha | right, I'll see how useful that is for dev but my plan is to eventually repurpose it as a server | 18:09 |
| mhoye | https://librephone.fsf.org/ | 18:17 |
| mhoye | I mention it because I am here to say to minute, please do not try to make a phone, please do not succumb to the temptation of trying to make a phone. | 18:17 |
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| jahkosha | we can make a libre phone with a string and a couple cups | 18:20 |
| chorc | phone bad | 18:20 |
| chorc | Prahou has a sticker like that I think, on their store | 18:20 |
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| cwebber | personally what I would really love to see | 18:52 |
| cwebber | is a mnt'ification of this cyborg setup | 18:52 |
| cwebber | https://dustycloud.org/blog/the-diy-foss-cyborg/ | 18:53 |
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| qbit | the ergodox leg pads are amazing | 19:53 |
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| minute | grimmware: btw i just noticed my cells have pillowed a bit vs new ones | 23:32 |
| minute | grimmware: so yes, i think the batteries have degraded | 23:33 |
| minute | i think that we let the cells overdischarge too much btw cc ch | 23:33 |
| minute | ch: we should think about automatic poweroff at some yet to be chosen voltage | 23:34 |
| minute | ch: the maxim monitor doesn't do it sensibly by default and neither do the protected cells themselves... they can go under 3v | 23:34 |
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| minute | now downloading https://www.analog.com/en/resources/evaluation-hardware-and-software/embedded-development-software/software-download.html?swpart=SFW0014960A | 23:59 |
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