| cwebber | but ok I have a way to boot it without the battery now at least | 00:01 |
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| cwebber | is it cheaper to send things to Canada than the US due to the changes in tarrifs, I assume? | 00:04 |
| cwebber | I have addresses in both places atm | 00:04 |
| minute | cwebber: probably, but we declare a low value on these charger boards | 00:05 |
| cwebber | yeah it's mainly that I also ordered a Reform Next :) | 00:05 |
| cwebber | so probably when that's shipped eventually it should go to Canada instead | 00:05 |
| minute | cwebber: ah yes. that's probably cheaper in the US | 00:05 |
| cwebber | I'm guessing I can update Crowdsupply, I'll look | 00:06 |
| minute | cwebber: because crowd supply will have already imported it to the US. | 00:06 |
| minute | cwebber: don't! | 00:06 |
| cwebber | oh! | 00:06 |
| cwebber | oh I misread | 00:06 |
| cwebber | ok :) | 00:06 |
| cwebber | I won't | 00:06 |
| minute | cwebber: you'll have to pay US->CA overhead then :D | 00:06 |
| minute | cwebber: so, no worries. CS to US is the smoothest i think | 00:06 |
| cwebber | sounds good | 00:08 |
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| vagrantc | wow reform2-lpc is reporting -371.53W power consumption and a 75% battery... when the battery is in fact at full capacity according to the OLED | 01:52 |
| minute | vagrantc: lil data error | 01:53 |
| vagrantc | pretty sure that something would catch fire using 371 watts, or the battery would die mighty quick charging at 371 watts | 01:53 |
| minute | vagrantc: newest lpc driver version? | 01:53 |
| vagrantc | yeah, i have been having a lot of unreliability with the battery reporting | 01:53 |
| vagrantc | straight out of git | 01:53 |
| minute | vagrantc: there's a MR that relaxes some timings iirc | 01:53 |
| vagrantc | would an old lpc firmware maybe be related? | 01:53 |
| minute | that might help | 01:53 |
| minute | and yes, i recommend to update lpc fw as well | 01:54 |
| vagrantc | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/144 ? | 01:55 |
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| minute | vagrantc: wow, forgot that it was _my_ MR | 01:58 |
| vagrantc | :) | 01:58 |
| minute | vagrantc: yeah. i think there were some comments of someone saying 15/15/15 made it stable for them | 01:58 |
| vagrantc | it has been a couple years at least since i updated the firmware ... let's see if i can still build it too :) | 01:58 |
| minute | hope you'll succeed! i have to sleep now unfortunately | 01:59 |
| minute | (2 am here) | 01:59 |
| minute | nighty | 01:59 |
| vagrantc | yup :) | 01:59 |
| vagrantc | ACTION waves | 01:59 |
| vagrantc | thanks as always | 01:59 |
| vagrantc | ACTION should head off too ... | 02:00 |
| vagrantc | ACTION waves | 02:00 |
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| [tj] | is the wiki on gitlab? | 09:42 |
| josch | [tj]: there are at least two wikis on gitlab, yes but they are not much used -- what is your plan? | 09:43 |
| [tj] | I'd like to write down what is needed on the imx8mp pocket reform | 09:46 |
| [tj] | minute: can you approve tj on gitlab when you get a moment | 09:48 |
| josch | [tj]: I think a wiki would be really nice to document a few things which are missing or are not fitting the handbook. There already are some articles by me in the reform-debian-packages and reform-system-image wiki but... | 09:50 |
| josch | I find it a bit confusing that there is one wiki per git project where what i actually want to have is not a "system image wiki" but a "products by MNT wiki" | 09:51 |
| [tj] | I want to track the development that is needed so it isn't documentation | 09:51 |
| [tj] | not static documentation | 09:51 |
| josch | [tj]: you mean a todo list? | 09:51 |
| [tj] | I think this is too much work to expect one person to do, so we need a todo list, references and notes on what is working and how to approach doing things | 09:52 |
| [tj] | it is probably going to be carried by multiple people | 09:52 |
| [tj] | multiply list by soms | 09:52 |
| josch | [tj]: would maybe filing gitlab issues be a good format for what you want to do? | 09:52 |
| [tj] | I don't think so, I think splitting stuff over pages makes you loose the ability to stumble onto something helpful | 09:53 |
| [tj] | it isn't very likely you will look at closed issues and they will have context on where you acquired patches | 09:54 |
| josch | [tj]: once your account is approved, i think whatever you want to write can certainly go into one of the wikis | 09:54 |
| [tj] | its computers so it isn't hard to move it around once it is written down | 09:54 |
| josch | minute: but maybe it would make sense to do the same that you did for https://source.mnt.re/bugs/bugs/-/issues/ that is, have one bugtracker for everything instead of splitting it by project? Maybe it would make sense to have one wiki for everything? | 09:54 |
| josch | [tj]: yes, please don't feel blocked by my questions about how to best organize this :) | 09:55 |
| [tj] | I keep my personal stuff in codeberg as issues, but I have a single project with multiple boards | 09:56 |
| [tj] | no system will be perfect | 09:56 |
| josch | indeed, i also have some long-ish articles in issue-form, my favourites are | 10:00 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-handbook/-/issues/2 | 10:00 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-handbook/-/issues/4 | 10:00 |
| josch | but how long it just took me to find these already shows that this is suboptimal XD | 10:01 |
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| josch | ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzpzpzpzzz | 17:05 |
| josch | zzzzzzz | 17:05 |
| josch | pzzz | 17:05 |
| [tj] | auch mich | 17:10 |
| cwebber | josch: that may have been a typo | 17:10 |
| bremner | irc client over serial console, old-school! | 17:15 |
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| josch | ups | 18:06 |
| josch | "p" and "z" are the keys that get pressed when i close my laptop lid | 18:07 |
| josch | case of "laptop in full backpack" | 18:07 |
| minute | josch: why split the bug tracker now? if everything is in one place, there's only one place to look. just put pointers up to that one place in other places where you might look by accident. | 18:13 |
| minute | josch: [tj]: about wiki: i don't wish to onboard random people to source.mnt.re. the online climate is getting rougher and i don't have the bandwidth to vet everyone. | 18:14 |
| minute | [tj]: i don't mean you btw | 18:14 |
| minute | [tj]: but, if there's a wiki and people then need an account on source just to edit it, that account has too many powers | 18:14 |
| minute | [tj]: so if you really need a wiki, i would prefer it to be elsewhere | 18:14 |
| josch | minute: ack | 18:20 |
| josch | in the past i would've hosted a wiki myself but i recently had to disable self-registration for my forgejo instance -- the spammers just have more power than me... | 18:22 |
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| minute | we have, on holo_memory's pocket reform semi reproducible spontaneous reboots on AC, when looping a h264 video in mpv on sway | 18:43 |
| [tj] | I just want somewhere to put notes that is relatively relevant. I wouldn’t really expect a lot of outside contribution | 19:02 |
| [tj] | I hope the extra attention this week is resulting in people buying things | 19:05 |
| minute | [tj]: ok, and community.mnt.re wouldn't be a good place for these notes? (just trying to understand what the goals are and what the best fit could be). what are the topics for the notes? | 19:12 |
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| [tj] | I’d like a document rather than a thread | 19:46 |
| [tj] | Right now I’m thinking like one of the sunxi wiki pages on a soc | 19:47 |
| minute | [tj]: ok but what are your goals, what sort of facts do you want to list there? and how many people should be able to edit this? | 19:49 |
| minute | [tj]: at the moment it sounds like you could just upload a html page somewhere | 19:50 |
| bremner | fwiw, I too would prefer some kind of curated summary to wading through threads. Of course that depends on someone doing a good job of curation. | 19:54 |
| bremner | having dealt with projects that have only a wiki (e.g. ikiwiki) and projects that have only a mailing-list / discourse (mnt-reform), neither seems ideal alone. | 19:57 |
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| chorc | hi everyone, I'm back with my new charging board (shoutout plom) sysctl-fw and kbd-fw updates installed, looks like it's working; I skimmed through logs here, looks like minute is chasing the brownout issue, is there some current workaround or guideline how to avoid those? low kbd brightness, is that it? | 20:18 |
| [tj] | minute: yeah I’ll just do that | 20:20 |
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| minute | chorc: low kbd brightness, and powersave profile i'd say | 21:04 |
| minute | chorc: which actually doesn't seem to degrade performance much | 21:04 |
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| chorc | minute: yes, I've been running powersave actually the whole Summer, it was enough for me | 21:12 |
| chorc | thank you! | 21:12 |
| minute | chorc: hope i can soon tell more! | 21:12 |
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| chorc | minute: looking forward to it! so glad I can use the little guy again on a subway, hope that new charging board is coming along as well | 21:15 |
| minute | chorc: nice! yes, new charging board proto PCBs are on the way here | 21:20 |
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| josch | [tj]: i also just remembered that discourse allows to turn a post into a wiki article | 22:17 |
| minute | right. how is the ui for that nowadays? | 22:26 |
| minute | any good wiki hosters out there that are free for opensource for example? | 22:27 |
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| vagrantc | so ... i've got 2Ah cells in my mnt/reform instead of the 1.8Ah cells it came with ... but reform2-lpc always reports them as 1.8Ah (at least, if i am reading it correctly) ... but i do not see anywhere obvious in reform2_lpc.c where it hard-codes it (though there is a check for < 2000 vs. >= 2000 | 22:48 |
| josch | vagrantc: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform/-/blob/master/reform2-lpc-fw/src/boards/reform2/board_reform2.c?ref_type=heads#L208 | 22:51 |
| vagrantc | thanks! :) | 22:56 |
| vagrantc | ah, it's in the system firmware, not the reform2-lpc module | 22:56 |
| vagrantc | another reminder to update my firmware | 22:57 |
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| vagrantc | so... accessing the serial console with this particular adapter ... gets tons of line noise from a cold boot ... but eventually when it has been running for a while, it starts acting pretty reliably | 23:38 |
| vagrantc | didn't see that with the old adapter i had used (though that one apparently got fried at some point!) | 23:38 |
| vagrantc | got some new adapters coming soon that i am really excited about, hoping they do not suffer the same issue | 23:39 |
| rick_ | vagrantc oh which one? :3 | 23:39 |
| vagrantc | termdriver2 ... comes with a little 60x25 screen :) | 23:46 |
| vagrantc | only thing i can think of that would be temperature dependent is ... if the contacts are just loose enough that they swell just enough when warmer? | 23:47 |
| rick_ | thanks, gonna check it out ^^ | 23:51 |
| vagrantc | presuming it works ok ... will need to figure where to hack the cast to fit it in :) | 23:56 |
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