| josch | how should the image be named? | 00:00 |
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| josch | reform-system-efi.img.xz? | 00:00 |
| minute | josch: oh, would that be multiarch somehow? | 00:00 |
| minute | josch: i thought there had to be arm64 and x64 ones | 00:00 |
| josch | you want to create these for x86_64 as well? | 00:01 |
| minute | josch: so, reform-system-arm64.img.xz and reform-system-x86_64.img.xz etc :D | 00:01 |
| minute | ah wait, efi should be in there | 00:01 |
| josch | do you want to distribute artifacts for amd64 on source.mnt.re as well or is it enough to run ./mkimage.sh on a amd64 machine whenever an image for x86_64 is needed? | 00:02 |
| minute | reform-system-efi-arm64.img.xz | 00:02 |
| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.0.217) | 00:02 | |
| minute | josch: if not too hard, i'd like to distribute x64 as well sure | 00:02 |
| minute | josch: unless that's somehow a maintenance burden for you in terms of the scripts | 00:02 |
| josch | i think it's more a problem of gitlab-ci.yml fiddling | 00:03 |
| josch | i'd create a second job for amd64 | 00:03 |
| josch | and then the arm64 job would run on one runner and the amd64 job on the other | 00:03 |
| josch | both create artifacts which then get distributed together | 00:03 |
| minute | josch: ah yeah that sounds great | 00:03 |
| minute | josch: it would be cool if people could try out our image on a pc or in a vm, that's why i thought that was interesting (and for testing install stuff things on pcs in vms) | 00:04 |
| minute | or if a tiny AMD som shows up one day... | 00:05 |
| josch | another issue is the device tree | 00:09 |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-89-123.tukw.qwest.net) | 00:10 | |
| josch | with the systemd efi stub it can be embedded into the stub | 00:10 |
| josch | and it probabl needs to be but that would make the image platform specific | 00:10 |
| josch | there is a project which builds the stub together witha mechanism that auto-chooses the dtb on boot | 00:10 |
| josch | here it is (with my comments): https://bugs.debian.org/1112063 | 00:11 |
| minute | josch: funny, chris is the other engineer @ linaro who works with us on the quasar integration | 00:13 |
| josch | nice :) | 00:14 |
| minute | interesting > Stubble will by default override the firmware provided dtb with an embedded one if they share the same compatible | 00:14 |
| minute | that sounds pretty good? | 00:14 |
| minute | so, edk2 or uboot-efi in any case have a built-in dtb when deployed on a module, and it could be replaced based on the "compatible" matching, sure | 00:16 |
| minute | (when loading linux i mean) | 00:16 |
| josch | the ITP is still open, if they need a DD to upload stuff, things can be arranged in case we need stubble for the reform | 00:24 |
| minute | josch: i don't know these acronyms but i can forward a link to this chat log later if you think that's useful :D | 00:28 |
| josch | i don't know if stubble is needed for the reform | 00:29 |
| josch | maybe edk2 or uboot-efi can ship a dtb that is sufficient for a device agnostic efi stub to boot linux? | 00:29 |
| josch | lets start with rebasing the commits from that MR | 00:30 |
| minute | josch: yeah, ok | 00:42 |
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| wickedshell | josch: thanks for doing all the detailed testing of battery lifes. I meant to say something earlier, but I was out for the last week and a bit! It's a nicely detailed comparison, and I really like the assement of which module is better for what. | 01:01 |
| wickedshell | I'm still trying to sit and be happy with the imx8mp :P As long as I'm not asking it to do a large compile of something new it's more then fast enough for what I do on it. (Notably that doesn't involve a lot of web usage, as that seems to be flakey with both the built in or the extra module). But the wifi flakiness may just mean I need to look at rerouting my antenna cables | 01:02 |
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| + TechnoWizard (~wiz@user/TechnoWizard) | 01:39 | |
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| farrisswisher | hey folks, I'm looking into the possibility of getting a reform (or pocket) to replace my framework 16 preorder, was wondering if anyone has tried their hand at doing any audio production on the platform? I know using VST plugins etc would be a non-starter since those are typically built for x86 only, but I'm hopeful that open source plugins would | 03:15 |
| farrisswisher | at least work fine if built from source? | 03:15 |
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| amatecha | would a 2230 m.2 fit in the reform next (2242)? | 03:43 |
| amatecha | I'm guessing not but I know very little about m.2 form factor lol | 03:44 |
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| + Ar|stote|is (~linx@149.210.0.217) | 05:12 | |
| + emdevt (~emdevt@2001:7e8:fa02:9801:87d0:3a5f:5000:3a4d) | 06:12 | |
| josch | amatecha: there are extension adapters which allow you to install shorter cards into slots meant for longer ones | 07:36 |
| josch | wickedshell: i'm still typing this on my a311d -- doing this assessment also had a very selfish interest that i want to convince myself that switching to rk3588 is actually okay :D | 07:37 |
| amatecha | oh interesting josch that's great to know, thanks | 07:45 |
| + GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) | 07:57 | |
| josch | minute: i found out what the dtb symlink is good for: it's used by old u-boot versions on imx8mq and imx8m+ which did not set ${fdtfile} in their env -- if u-boot doesn't know the dtb it falls back to /boot/dtb | 08:42 |
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| rwa_ | Warzone 2100 running fine on the RK3588 via flatpak :) | 09:29 |
| + jogu (~jogu@user/jogu) | 09:50 | |
| + gustav2 (~gustav@c-78-82-52-97.bbcust.telenor.se) | 10:02 | |
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| Ar|stote|is | The reform next uses 2242 because of space constraints? Are there extenders to mount a 2280 elsewhere? | 11:49 |
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| minute | actually i've changed to 2230 as the default + 2242 option, because 2230 is more popular/affordable now | 12:14 |
| + emdevt (~emdevt@2001:7e8:fa02:9801:87d0:3a5f:5000:3a4d) | 12:46 | |
| Ar|stote|is | Lots of gaming handhelds bigger supply! | 13:27 |
| Ar|stote|is | AI has increased the price of nvme ssds though. The new gpu era is upon us. | 13:28 |
| minute | for all those datacenters? | 13:31 |
| minute | but yeah, steam deck etc have helped with making small ssds popular | 13:31 |
| minute | i'm gonna do another reform next mb spin and am torn if i keep microsd express slot (internal, on motherboard top side) or try to change it to another 2230 m.2 slot. not sure how much of a squeeze it will be with trackpad on top though. | 13:32 |
| Ar|stote|is | https://www.tweaktown.com/news/108074/phison-ceo-says-severe-nand-flash-shortages-and-unprecedented-ssd-demand-could-last-10-years/index.html | 13:33 |
| Ar|stote|is | Microsd express? The new one the switch 2 has? | 13:34 |
| + paperManu (~paperManu@64.58.44.160) | 13:45 | |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: yeah kind of a coincidence that they decided to go with that, too | 13:59 |
| minute | the cards are still quite expensive though | 14:00 |
| Ar|stote|is | Yeah but it will be the future most probably | 14:05 |
| Ar|stote|is | Egwn though internal doesn't seem that useful imho | 14:05 |
| Ar|stote|is | Even* | 14:05 |
| Ar|stote|is | Do we have any news regarding that Qualcomm som? When will it be available and more specifics? | 14:18 |
| minute | Ar|stote|is: https://social.treehouse.systems/@cas/115351809624408845 | 14:21 |
| minute | video https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/115351613425587216 | 14:22 |
| minute | and a bit more ramblings from today https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/115355327139862906 | 14:23 |
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| cwebber | hello hello | 15:27 |
| cwebber | oh cool | 15:27 |
| + cow321 (~deflated8@user/meow/deflated8837) | 15:29 | |
| cwebber | my pocket has stopped charging with even the more powerful chargers. Gonna order https://www.adafruit.com/product/1905 and see if it helps | 15:35 |
| cwebber | I did leave it off for a few months | 15:35 |
| cwebber | but it's not powering at all now | 15:35 |
| cwebber | I did try flashing the firmware earlier but didn't succeed, the script had aborted, and I didn't continue trying to figure out what the deal was (it said the firmware hash mismatched what it expected iirc) so I simply haven't dealt with it | 15:36 |
| cwebber | I've had to replace 3 spicy pillows (!!!) on my System76 laptop though | 15:37 |
| cwebber | so I'm getting sick of that thing | 15:37 |
| cwebber | want to use the pocket more | 15:37 |
| cwebber | I guess my whole "Well I want a device that can suspend"... given that my laptop literally can't run on batteries at all with its third spicy pillow removed, I'm a little more willing to accept the current state of power management on the RK3588 | 15:40 |
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| josch | cwebber: do you need assistance? | 17:22 |
| josch | you could try getting the battery board out of the loop by bridging pins 2&3 of the motherboard battery connector | 17:22 |
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| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 17:56 | |
| minute | cwebber: here is the troubleshooting process https://support.mnt.re/#devices/pocket_reform/charger_module_test | 18:20 |
| minute | josch: about fat32 /boot, and /dtb, why does that need to be a symlink and cannot be simply a copy? i really don't understand the benefits of symlinks there. if anything, i find them confusing in practice | 18:20 |
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| + rwa_ (~rene@2001:9e8:3387:2700:af2e:608b:aa59:bfb1) | 18:59 | |
| josch | minute: oh it absolutely can be a copy, would work the same way | 19:03 |
| josch | maybe flash-kernel would have to be adjusted to support this but it can probably be done | 19:03 |
| josch | this remark was not meant as an argument against converting /boot from ext4 to fat32 | 19:04 |
| josch | my reasons against converting /boot from ext4 to fat32 are much less tangible and rather are like: fat32 only has short filenames, short labels, no journal, is not 2038-safe and so on | 19:05 |
| josch | in essence all arguments that boil down to: fat32 is an outdated filesystem from the last century lacking all the nice things that we learned to like from semi-modern filesystems | 19:05 |
| josch | my other concern would be: i have never seen a setup which added the efi partiton into /boot in practice. All efi setups that i've come across put the efi partition on its own small partition. But i don't know if that has a technical reason or not. | 19:06 |
| josch | fat32: it's case-insensitive... it's just all so jucky, no? do i make any sense? :D | 19:09 |
| rwa_ | sure, fat32 is for sd-cards and usb-sticks, but even there nowadays exFAT is the way to go | 19:11 |
| rwa_ | fat32 is not only century, is even from the last millenium... :D | 19:11 |
| rwa_ | +last | 19:11 |
| josch | Like I wrote here https://floss.social/@josch/115356137255845924 I think I'd really like the input of somebody who knows enough about EFI. "abusing" /boot as the efi partition is technically possible, but is it a good idea? I'd like to avoid creating a franken-setup :) | 19:17 |
| josch | in any case, the answer to this question is not blocking my work right now | 19:18 |
| josch | there is a lot in above MR which I'm moving over to main bit by bit | 19:18 |
| rwa_ | franken-boot :D | 19:19 |
| minute | josch: i see! it's a pity that EFI has this design flaw | 19:34 |
| minute | they should really update to a modern fs | 19:34 |
| f_ | hiya, does anybody know if the MNT reform could support 2 ext. displays at the same time? | 19:38 |
| minute | f_: yes, rk3588-dsi reform (or pocket) can, but needs a flex cable and hdmi socket somewhere :D | 19:44 |
| f_ | \o/ | 19:45 |
| minute | we have one extra 20pin fpc for hdmi on rcore. | 19:45 |
| rwa_ | :o | 19:45 |
| minute | which could also be displayport with a different dts | 19:45 |
| f_ | I'm considering mnt reform as my next laptop to replace my current hp laptop from 2011 haha | 19:46 |
| f_ | Displayport would be perfect | 19:46 |
| minute | i need to validate this displayport stuff next week, already soldered the breakout | 19:46 |
| f_ | I use one displayport-first monitor along with a VGA-only monitor | 19:46 |
| f_ | minute: that's really cool :D | 19:47 |
| f_ | Reform definitely goes on my list of next laptop to use then | 19:48 |
| minute | on sm8550 i think we can also have 3 displays, but that module will still take a while :D | 19:48 |
| f_ | heh, I'm not looking for lots of performance :P | 19:48 |
| minute | haha ok :D rk should be more to your taste as it has only 2 blobs and no hypervisor etc | 19:49 |
| f_ | but if sm8550 is available when my current laptop dies then that'd be even cooler :D | 19:49 |
| f_ | yeah RK seems like my taste | 19:49 |
| minute | i hope they won't make rk3688 more blobby... | 19:50 |
| f_ | I originally thought a311d would be cool and even cooler assuming I finish reverse-engineering A311D bl2 by then | 19:50 |
| f_ | but apparently can't do 2 ext. displays | 19:50 |
| minute | no, and sadly also we never got dsi+hdmi to work at the same time too, even if it was said to be technically possible | 19:51 |
| minute | f_: did something ever happen with a311d2 upstreaming btw? | 19:51 |
| f_ | dsi+hdmi wouldn't matter all that much, my current HP laptop already has trouble handling my 2 external displays + the internal eDP one | 19:51 |
| minute | (just curious) | 19:51 |
| f_ | minute: Haven't checked, sorry | 19:51 |
| minute | ok | 19:52 |
| f_ | all I know is amlogic is trying to upstream some drivers for some increasingly new SoC and being gaslighted on mailing lists for doing it wrong | 19:52 |
| f_ | Whatever S4/T7 means... | 19:52 |
| minute | aw | 19:52 |
| minute | what are the specs? | 19:53 |
| f_ | /A5 | 19:53 |
| f_ | I don't know what these codenames refer to, I'll have to check | 19:53 |
| minute | ah ok | 19:53 |
| f_ | their codenames make less and less sense with every new product line | 19:53 |
| f_ | A5 is apparently Amlogic S905X5M | 19:54 |
| minute | i found the low energy use of a311d quite impressive but 4gb ram limit was a hard sell for many | 19:54 |
| minute | and the fact that internal+external disp. couldn't be used together | 19:54 |
| f_ | ^ wouldn't be a downgrade for me, I already can't use the internal disp with 2 ext. monitors lol .. nvidia shenanigans | 19:55 |
| f_ | not only that but it barely handles my 1440p ultrawide monitor | 19:55 |
| f_ | just barely | 19:55 |
| minute | aw... i'm using 1440p external monitor with my rk3588 pocket reform at home, it's very nice | 19:56 |
| f_ | It's a hp laptop from 2011 with nvidia fermi graphics, what did you expect :P | 19:56 |
| f_ | Fermi support in nouveau seems to mostly be in a state similar to that slice of pizza I'd leave in the fridge for 2 months | 19:57 |
| minute | heh. but you get gl 4.x? | 19:57 |
| f_ | barely | 19:57 |
| f_ | anything that dares try to use the GPU shows up garbled | 19:58 |
| f_ | amlogic-s4 apparently is Amlogic S905Y4 | 19:58 |
| f_ | All I remember about these newer SoCs is they tripled the number of firmware blobs required to boot | 19:59 |
| f_ | AFAIk they're also not really supported by U-Boot yet | 19:59 |
| rwa_ | i don't know much about it, but all this boot stuff seems to be quite a mess on all those ARM-based SBC | 20:01 |
| f_ | depends which ;) | 20:01 |
| f_ | The reason they're a huge mess on the newer aml SoCs for me is probably because I haven't looked much at them | 20:01 |
| rwa_ | well...all? :D | 20:01 |
| f_ | and you haven't seen x86_64 :D | 20:02 |
| rwa_ | yeah, sure, i barely get in touch with the low level stuff | 20:02 |
| f_ | ACTION wants to get off that boat | 20:02 |
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| f_ | At least now I know what to get next when my laptop finally dies | 20:07 |
| f_ | just need to know when it's planning to die now | 20:08 |
| josch | the framework desaster is letting a bunch of really nice list of laptop alternatives surface, for example this one: https://exquisite.social/@h3artbl33d/115356411400013270 | 20:14 |
| josch | some of theme were news to me and buying used is great advice in general :) | 20:15 |
| rwa_ | i guess most of them are "designed in Europe, made in China" ... i was quite interested in StarLabs back then, but besides their Linux focus i have no clue about "repairability" | 20:18 |
| rwa_ | to me it pretty much looks like "pay a premium for a generic laptop because its labeled by a small company" | 20:20 |
| rwa_ | is my brain right that the trackpad for the classic Reform has been discontinueed? | 20:22 |
| minute | josch: this sounds like there's no uboot on emmc https://community.mnt.re/t/reform-setup-encrypted-disk-fails/3911/21 | 20:32 |
| minute | josch: so uboot on sd card boots the old system | 20:32 |
| minute | josch: but that's weird indeed, as it should prioritize /boot on sdcard, right? | 20:33 |
| minute | josch: or, the sd card was already modified by the setup/migrate script, thus now preferring to boot the old system on emmc? | 20:33 |
| minute | josch: i'm wondering if they shouldn't just use reform-flash-rescue emmc and call it a day... | 20:34 |
| chorc | rwa_: yeah, most of those are clevo/tongfang chassis, nothing wrong with that, but they are hardly designed in Europe; for me nowadays it's either MNT or some refurb corpo laptop, but I'm priviledged to do most of my computing on a workstation anyway | 20:42 |
| f_ | josch: what is the framework disaster? | 20:43 |
| rwa_ | f_: https://crimier.github.io/posts/Framework-Omarchy/ | 20:46 |
| rwa_ | chorc: so not even "designed in Europe"...thats worse than i expected :( | 20:47 |
| f_ | oh the omarchy junk | 20:47 |
| f_ | I was kinda considering Framework too but not really too much given it's x86_64 | 20:47 |
| minute | there's the powerpc laptop from france but it is progressing slowly afaik | 20:47 |
| f_ | and also windows-first | 20:47 |
| minute | yeah | 20:47 |
| rwa_ | chorc: i have a "gaming rig", but my "work" can easily be done on the Reform...thats wy i'd like to get my hands on a "Desktop Reform" :D | 20:47 |
| minute | i also have a gaming rig... ps5 lol | 20:48 |
| f_ | my gaming rig is my nintendo wii | 20:48 |
| rwa_ | i managed to keep my hands of those consoles (XBox/PS), but i'm in the steam hell... | 20:48 |
| f_ | I love playing games for children as an adult | 20:48 |
| rwa_ | atleast i can install any linux distribution on Legion Go | 20:49 |
| f_ | I can boot debian on my wii | 20:50 |
| f_ | and play intensive AAA games such as supertux2 | 20:50 |
| chorc | rwa_: I'm on the other side, I need quite a bit of umpf for what I do, and I've got it solved either by employee or just generic PC made from gaming parts :-) | 20:51 |
| rwa_ | fair enough :) | 20:51 |
| chorc | minute: powerpc, really? | 20:52 |
| rwa_ | what a hell of a FrankenPad :D https://www.tpart.net/product/x210ai-completed-laptop-ultra-7-165h/ | 20:53 |
| chorc | back in early 2000s I had access to SparcBook, it was something, but it wasn't made for fun | 20:54 |
| rwa_ | oh, trixie backports ship mesa 25.2.4? maybe it's time to move my "gaming rig" to Debian as well *thinking* | 20:56 |
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| minute | sebastian reichel figured out that suspend issue caused by emmc on rk3588 can be fixed by removing "supports-cqe" flag from device tree https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux/-/issues/43#note_248239 | 21:20 |
| + TechnoWizard (~TechnoWiz@user/TechnoWizard) | 21:23 | |
| minute | hm, the following works for me with mmc drivers unloaded: cd /sys/power; echo test_resume > disk; echo devices > pm_test; echo disk > state | 21:27 |
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| minute | but "processors" test failed | 22:10 |
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| josch | minute: yes, i too suspected that there was no uboot on emmc which is why i asked for a dump of the first 16MBit of emmc to confirm this theory. I thought you are shipping the units with u-boot flashed to emmc on rk3588 do you not? | 23:16 |
| josch | i didn't just suggest to try "reform-flash-uboot emmc" because then we would never find out what the original issue was and that means we cannot fix it for the next person | 23:17 |
| josch | for example, reform-setup-encrypted-disk probably should warn if it cannot find latest u-boot on emmc to prevent situations such as these, no? | 23:19 |
| - TechnoWizard (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~TechnoWiz@user/TechnoWizard) | 23:29 | |
| manis | minute: the PowerPC notebook is designed in Italy, if you meant that. | 23:39 |
| minute | josch: yes of course we ship uboot on emmc. they probably overwrote it | 23:47 |
| josch | yes, likely | 23:47 |
| josch | i want to put in some checks to guard against these situations | 23:47 |
| minute | josch: and yes, good point @ checking for bootability, that would be quite useful | 23:47 |
| josch | minute: i must admit now that it's really cool to have serial via usb-c integrated into motherboard 3.0. So often can we not get any early-boot output because the user doesn't happen to have a uart adapter at home. The odd thing here was just that SW4 had all switches off which had to be fixed first. | 23:52 |
| minute | josch: right. i forgot to put a step in the shipping/qa procedure to switch these switches on. OTOH it's more secure like that. | 23:53 |
| minute | i.e. an adversarial power supply can't just mess with your serial port then ^^ | 23:54 |
| josch | indeed | 23:56 |
| josch | especially tricky once serial login works on rk3588 again :) | 23:56 |
| + TechnoWizard (~TechnoWiz@user/TechnoWizard) | 23:57 | |
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