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| elb` | minute: I was actually just thinking about soldering a cap on near the motherboard input today! Maybe I'll do that this weekend. I try to remember to turn the keyboard backlight off manually after boot, I need to either put in a systemd script or just turn it off in my custom keyboard build | 01:53 |
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| theglitch | Hey Ho, Q: if I order on crowdsupply will it be shipped from DE? I am located in DE and would rather avoid unneccessary customs fees, currency conversions etc. | 09:55 |
| * theglitch -> spaetz | 09:55 | |
| spaetz | the mnt reform next, that is | 09:55 |
| Zaba | all Crowdsupply orders ship from mouser in the US | 10:00 |
| spaetz | ok, good to know, thanks | 10:01 |
| josch | spaetz: the reform next will be available from the mnt shop in DE after the orders for crowdsupply are fulfilled | 10:02 |
| spaetz | Yepp, will be impatiently waiting until then. ;-) (and hope that someone gets suspend working) | 10:03 |
| spaetz | thanks for the quick answers, appreciated. | 10:03 |
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| josch | spaetz: suspend on rk3588 was a topic here recently: https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/linux/-/issues/43#note_238724 | 11:15 |
| arjan | I just filed a bug report for the reform2_lpc kernel module https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/issues/11 | 11:17 |
| ch | minute: yeah the keyboard brightness is a real issue imo | 11:19 |
| ch | minute: at least a percentage-based setting is on my 'wanted' list for the prefs | 11:19 |
| josch | arjan: i'd like minute to comment on this. I wonder whether there is a better solution than just adding a random msleep(500) to minimize the chances for the race... | 11:20 |
| ch | minute: could also ponder a lower upper limit on the brightness, not sure if there's a brightness<>powerusage cliff | 11:20 |
| josch | ch: i'm also pondering whether i should allocate some time into writing a small timeout function for the reform keyboard v4 which disables the backlight after inactivity and restores it when keys are getting pressed again -- after all, the keyboard seems to reduce my battery life by 3.8 hours... | 11:22 |
| ch | i want that (back) in the kbd firmware | 11:22 |
| josch | ch: "back"? | 11:23 |
| ch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/commit/201720b92ef80a90f056c31878bae16e974f10bc | 11:24 |
| josch | uuuh i wasn't aware | 11:25 |
| josch | yes, i was talking about making this part of the firmware | 11:25 |
| ch | otoh some control could/should be given to the linux desktop | 11:25 |
| josch | on the other hand, this would kill people using openrgb to show off | 11:25 |
| ch | which certainly has apis for this, but i dont know anything about that | 11:25 |
| josch | exactly | 11:25 |
| josch | but again, this can/should be a setting you should be able to make in the firmware | 11:25 |
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| minute | josch: arjan: thanks, i started to think about this issue, give me a day or two | 12:28 |
| minute | ch: josch: i think the best first way is to integrate with desktop idle stuff. then introduce a pref in the fw as well. also, we could immediately like half the default brightness. | 12:29 |
| minute | lets look at how other mobile kbd backlights are wired up with desktop/idle stuff also | 12:30 |
| minute | for example, the display backlight dimming just works because we register a standard backlight driver | 12:30 |
| ch | yes and yes and yes | 12:30 |
| minute | for usb, a while ago i looked into what rgb/led interfaces are in HID standards | 12:30 |
| minute | but not sure what's used in the real world | 12:31 |
| ch | i still have the rgb thing open in a tab, but it will take time to land i think | 12:31 |
| josch | indeed, i remember having talking about this topic here already once or twice in the past | 12:31 |
| ch | brightness should already be standardized somehow, i hope not only via acpi | 12:31 |
| minute | btw ailurux ported the pocket display v2 init code to our edk2 fork, and the mipi commands can be sent successfully, just the display doesn't show anything yet. i'm sure it's only a small thing left to do there... | 12:33 |
| arjan | cool am looking forward to trying edk2 on the pocket | 12:34 |
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| minute | josch: lazy question: where is our EFI compatible "any" image? | 21:01 |
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| minute | josch: we got the standard debian 13 netinst iso installed + running on quasar :D | 22:17 |
| josch | minute: in case it's still relevant: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/merge_requests/133 | 22:47 |
| josch | minute: how in the world do not require any patches to linux for quasar??? o0 | 22:47 |
| minute | josch: qcs6490 is quite well supported already in mainline | 22:48 |
| josch | wow o0 | 22:48 |
| minute | but we need a dtb of course. and patches remain to be seen | 22:48 |
| minute | didn't do display panel stuff yet :D | 22:49 |
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| minute | josch: about amd64 poc, would be great to merge it in a way that it just shows up next to the other images | 22:49 |
| josch | minute: it's not merged because of the question of what to do about the efi partition which needs to be fat32 | 22:50 |
| josch | see our discussion we had here back then | 22:50 |
| minute | ah | 22:54 |
| josch | you have time for that right now? then i can look up what the remaining issue was from chat logs | 22:56 |
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| minute | josch: yeah i'll make something like dinner and will be around here | 23:28 |
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| josch | the main question is how to do the partitioning | 23:32 |
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| josch | the boot partition needs tobe fat32 but fat32 not support symlinks, so just switching /boot to fat32 would remove this feature | 23:33 |
| josch | the efi partition can be an additional partition, which would mean creating system images with 3 partitions | 23:33 |
| josch | the first partition would need to be the original /boot | 23:33 |
| josch | the second one efi and the third one root | 23:34 |
| josch | so the main question is: | 23:39 |
| josch | do we want three partitions: /boot, efi, / | 23:39 |
| josch | or two partitinos: /boot (fat32 without symlinks), / | 23:39 |
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| minute | josch: ok, so thinking about this a bit: i've never found the symlinks to be useful... | 23:57 |
| minute | josch: these dtb files are tiny anyway | 23:58 |
| minute | josch: and also the symlinks don't really seem to be used? afaik uboot loads the fdt from a subdirectory and not /dtb ? | 23:58 |
| minute | josch: so if technically allowable i would just make /boot fat32 | 23:59 |
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