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| erle | vagrantc what's “too hard for debian”? | 02:49 |
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| vagrantc | erle: some unpackaged dependencies that i did not want to bother with | 06:37 |
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| minute | vagrantc: sounds like your sysctl fw is from 2022 | 09:46 |
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| [tj] | is swd on the sysctl and keyboard picos readily available? | 10:39 |
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| dormito | Does the mnt reform pocket have a hall efecct sensor, or other way to detect when it's closed? I took a quick glance at the schematics, but didn't see one. | 15:10 |
| josch | dormito: there is none | 15:11 |
| dormito | thats unfortunate.... Hmmm I wonder if the system controller fw could be modifyed (or maybe someone did already) to include a "display off" mode | 15:12 |
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| minute | [tj]: on sysctl yes (test points), on kbd i don't remember atm | 15:53 |
| minute | i'm trying to root cause some reboots that holo_memory is seeing on his pocket _on charge_ since we updated to fw 20251001 (and newer) | 15:54 |
| josch | uff... these random issues are really annoying and keep eating your time... i hope you are not getting too frustrated by these yet... | 16:03 |
| minute | josch: no worries... still motivated to get to the bottom of this :3 | 16:16 |
| minute | i just put in an ACM command that lets me trigger an endless loop in sysctl | 16:16 |
| minute | when the watchdog fires + resets, there is no problem | 16:16 |
| minute | everything recovers and continues as expected | 16:16 |
| minute | so, sysctl "hanging" and causing watchdog reset does not cause problems | 16:17 |
| minute | funny, rp2040 doesn't crash on div by zero | 16:28 |
| minute | instead it says the result is 2147483647 | 16:28 |
| d_m | the 32-bit integer version of positive infinity i guess? | 16:31 |
| minute | watchdog also correctly fixes a hang by trying to write to ROM | 16:34 |
| minute | ah, it would make sense to be able to query uptime in the sysctl | 16:38 |
| minute | (implemented this now for debugging) | 17:06 |
| ch | nice idea | 17:14 |
| minute | thermal problem can also be ruled out, i can't manage to get it above 87 degrees because it throttles | 17:14 |
| minute | also i've put backlight on full blast and keyboard on 100% white backlight, loaded GPU and CPU with benchmarks, no problems... | 17:15 |
| minute | (on battery) | 17:15 |
| minute | i must say my charger board is modified to bypass the fuse, so i should probably drop in an original one as well | 17:15 |
| minute | the highest amps i've seen are 2.7A | 17:15 |
| minute | meanwhile, sysctl uptime 28 minutes | 17:17 |
| ch | the reboots happen -only- while charging? (or "on" attaching a charger?) | 17:17 |
| minute | ch: for him, while attached to charger, like after an hour | 17:17 |
| ch | k | 17:17 |
| minute | ch: but, we couldn't do countertest with no charger (only battery) yet. so it might happen there as well. | 17:17 |
| ch | k | 17:18 |
| minute | ch: for me, i never get a random reset on charger | 17:18 |
| minute | system differences: charger board (mine is modified a bit), i have disp v1, he has disp v2 | 17:18 |
| minute | ch: i forgot which display you have... v2 maybe? | 17:19 |
| ch | v1 iirc | 17:19 |
| minute | ok, system reset at 42% battery while running neverball intro fullscreen | 17:23 |
| minute | systemctrl did _not_ reset, it has 2112 seconds uptime | 17:24 |
| minute | when i turn down the screen brightness and turn of the keyboard backlight, neverball fullscreen does not cause a reset at low battery | 17:37 |
| minute | (currently at 28%) | 17:37 |
| minute | i finally managed to get the gauge down to 0% | 17:46 |
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| minute | anyways, i couldn't identify any issue with system controller today. the next investigation will be to see where on the power path things can get unstable under load and at low voltage. | 18:24 |
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| * jgart -> whereiseveryone | 19:40 | |
| minute | feeding a low ish voltage into the MB VCC directly creates, unsurprisingly, similar brownout resets | 19:55 |
| minute | the buck converters both have a minimum spec of 5.5V input | 19:55 |
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| minute | i soldered a 22uF 1208 mlcc capacitor to vcc->gnd near the mb input | 21:29 |
| minute | lol just realized i was triggering the current limiter of my lab supply m)) | 21:39 |
| minute | ok, stable now under gpu+full cpu load @ 6.2V direct input | 21:44 |
| minute | (+ssd+wifi+cellular+full brightness) | 21:44 |
| minute | ok, 6.0v doesn't work :D | 21:45 |
| minute | in any case, lowering keyboard brightness greatly increases the available power budget cc elb` | 21:45 |
| minute | should bring that auto dimming back (as a preference) | 21:46 |
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| minute | with (a real, not 5v) usb-c power plugged in, i cannot trigger the brownout reset. | 22:11 |
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| minute | but, i can trigger it on battery with my load test even on 60% battery (my cells are a bit old/weak though) | 22:12 |
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