| + optimal (~user@92.54.250.178) | 00:15 | |
| optimal | a couple days ago i mentioned a freezing keyboard problem on this channel, a little update on that: | 00:17 |
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| optimal | i reseated the processor board and replaced the thermal sticker and the issue went away | 00:18 |
| optimal | so it was either a contact issue or a thermal problem - either way it's fixed | 00:19 |
| optimal | but now my charging board stopped charging so it doesn't matter anymore :P | 00:19 |
| ch | how does that manifest? | 00:20 |
| optimal | how does what manifest | 00:20 |
| optimal | josch: about your pocket reform's 1.8m tumble, i'd take off the bottom and check the little plastic spacer things that hold the batteries in place because for me it took one drop for those to break pretty much immediately | 00:23 |
| optimal | oh wait nvm you removed those | 00:24 |
| optimal | they do make for good shock absorbers tho =) | 00:24 |
| + reform15210 (~oscar@107-179-241-147.cpe.teksavvy.com) | 00:28 | |
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| + reform32048 (~oscar@107-179-241-147.cpe.teksavvy.com) | 00:29 | |
| reform32048 | hello | 00:29 |
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| + paperManu (~paperManu@198.16.179.107) | 00:37 | |
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| d_m | hey folks, does anyone know of any guides to replacing the mnt reform screen? (not the pocket reform, the reform classic) | 03:38 |
| - paperManu (QUIT: Ping timeout: 245 seconds) (~paperManu@198.16.179.107) | 03:40 | |
| d_m | mainly i'm curious if the display panel is attached to the screen back, and if so how? will i need two-sided tape or some kind of adhesize? | 03:46 |
| d_m | *adhesive | 03:46 |
| elb | yoinked the top cover off my pocket reform today to have some bits of computer architecture to physically point at during lecture | 03:52 |
| jn | elb: nice | 03:56 |
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| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@98.19.131.193) | 05:04 | |
| - gsora (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~gsora@user/gsora) | 05:30 | |
| josch | d_m: no tape nor any adhesive -- it is held in place by the bezel itself | 05:36 |
| josch | elb: ah a fellow lecturer! yes, i do the same by turning my classic reform upside-down (transparent acrylic bottom) | 05:37 |
| d_m | josch: aha, thanks! that's great, that means i can start replacing it tomorrow | 05:47 |
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| - optimal (QUIT: Ping timeout: 256 seconds) (~user@92.54.250.178) | 09:14 | |
| + gustav2872 (~gustav@c-78-82-53-97.bbcust.telenor.se) | 10:02 | |
| + chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:85f:9a74:ce00:1ac0:4dff:fedb:a3f1) | 10:49 | |
| gordon1 | josch: mine is on some sort of an adhesive | 10:56 |
| gordon1 | d_m: if it is taped, you can use dental floss to carefully detach it by just running it behind the panel | 10:57 |
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| chorc | ooh, new mesa packages arrived at testing, no need for patched mesa for good firefox performance | 11:54 |
| chorc | (also suppose to be Vulkan 1.4, but I've yet to start gaming on my Pocket) | 11:57 |
| minute | chorc: nice | 12:06 |
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| d_m | gordon1: thanks, i'll keep that in mind (and report back on whether mine has that or not) | 15:05 |
| + synnfynn (~synnfynn@user/synnfynn) | 15:12 | |
| f_ | One question, can the reform connect to 2 displays at the same time? | 15:16 |
| f_ | My current laptop has DP out and VGA out and I usually connect dp out to my samsung ultrawide monitor and VGA to a hp vga monitor I rescued from ewaste | 15:18 |
| f_ | Though it can't do 3 displays so the internal one is off | 15:18 |
| f_ | I wonder if such a setup also works with the reform | 15:19 |
| f_ | (lack of vga port isn't really an issue, I can use a converter) | 15:19 |
| + aakast (~aakast@87-49-44-61-mobile.dk.customer.tdc.net) | 15:20 | |
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| * RandyK_ -> RandyK | 15:40 | |
| + LainIwakura (~LainIwaku@user/LainIwakura) | 16:05 | |
| d_m | update: i shouldn't have been worried. my screen was held to the back panel by two small pieces of double-sided tape which i was able to leave in place and reuse. screen replacement went fine and new screen looks great! thanks josch and gordon1 for your help. | 16:14 |
| gordon1 | cool, so mine is probably held in the same way | 16:19 |
| d_m | i imagine so yeah | 16:19 |
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| + gsora (~gsora@user/gsora) | 16:51 | |
| + reform25574 (~d6@65.183.133.255) | 16:57 | |
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| + erle (~erle@user/erle) | 17:04 | |
| + paperManu_ (~paperManu@142.169.16.83) | 17:08 | |
| d_m | does anyone know which repo contains the file /etc/profile.d/reform-setup.sh ? i want to send a small patch | 17:15 |
| d_m | (basically, the setfont command isn't useful when run from a terminal emulator and gives an error about not finding a file descriptor for the terminal) | 17:16 |
| d_m | so i added a line to only run that when tty matches ^/dev/tty.*$ | 17:17 |
| ch | i wanted to say reform-tools, but its not there | 17:19 |
| ch | can you check what dpkg -S /etc/profile.d/reform-setup.sh says? | 17:19 |
| d_m | sure | 17:19 |
| d_m | > dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/profile.d/reform-setup.sh | 17:19 |
| ch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/blob/main/reform-setup.sh?ref_type=heads | 17:19 |
| d_m | aha! thanks | 17:20 |
| ch | in theory the file should get deleted after the wizard completes | 17:20 |
| d_m | oh hm. i wonder why i still have it. | 17:21 |
| d_m | but anyway i think this patch won't do any harm in any case | 17:21 |
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| - L29Ah (PART: !!unknown attribute: msg!!) (~L29Ah@wikipedia/L29Ah) | 18:03 | |
| + optimal (~user@92.54.250.178) | 18:28 | |
| optimal | i'm not quite sure if my Pocket Reofmr charging board is broken - basically, at some point my Pocket Reform stopped charging, and flipping the standby switch a couple times and trying again didn't really fix the issue. the batteries were providing power but they would not charge. so, thinking that maybe there was a bug in the charging board firmware and it just needed a reset, i reconnected the batteries, after which it stopped | 18:35 |
| optimal | providing power to the motherboard completely, probably because the charging board needs to be powered with wall power before it turns on, but no power was getting to it from the USB-C port. so that's where i am | 18:35 |
| optimal | i did the thing with the jumper to provide power to the motherboard directly from the USB-C PD port and bypass the charging board, and that worked, which means that the USB-C PD port and the power stuff on the motherboard works fine | 18:36 |
| elb | josch: yes, I teach Computer Science at a state university | 19:21 |
| elb | the reform acrylic bottom would be fantastic for that | 19:22 |
| elb | I lived in fear of losing screws ;-) | 19:22 |
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| + nsc (~nicolas@i5C74DF5A.versanet.de) | 20:21 | |
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| + gsora (~gsora@user/gsora) | 22:33 | |
| gsora | minute: do you folks have any recommended steps to screw Down the display front plate? I always end up with some sides being pushed too hard against the back plate | 22:35 |
| + bkeys (~Thunderbi@98.19.131.193) | 22:43 | |
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| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@h193.131.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 22:46 | |
| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 22:49 | |
| + mjw (~mjw@gnu.wildebeest.org) | 22:55 | |
| josch | elb: that fear is real! | 22:58 |
| josch | minute: today, my pocket randomly rebooted out of the blue -- this has not happened for a long time | 23:14 |
| josch | admittedly, it was 2 hours into watching paw patrol, so that might've had something to do with it.. ;) | 23:14 |
| + bkeys1 (~Thunderbi@h193.131.19.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) | 23:17 | |
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| * bkeys1 -> bkeys | 23:17 | |
| ch | optimal: on ttyACM0 there is debug output from sysctl. can you capture that while plugging in your charger? | 23:22 |
| d_m | gsora: i just did this today. my approach was to loosely tighten each of the 7 screws first | 23:24 |
| d_m | and then once they were all in to retighten all of them a bit more. that seemed to work | 23:24 |
| gsora | Ah | 23:24 |
| gsora | let me try | 23:24 |
| gsora | it also has been kind of a challenge to center the screen correctly | 23:25 |
| - glu (QUIT: Changing host) (~glu@2a01:239:33b:1300::1) | 23:25 | |
| + glu (~glu@user/glu) | 23:25 | |
| d_m | yeah if leave them all loose then you can still adjust it before fully tightening | 23:28 |
| d_m | also, i had the screen almost totally flat (open) when i did it, to minimize the effect of gravity on the alignment | 23:29 |
| gsora | hmm it's as if I shouldn't really tighten the screws | 23:30 |
| optimal | ch: not possible anymore since the charging board needs to have wall power to start up, and i can't get wall power to it, so the pocket reform won't even turn on unless i bypass the charging board with the pin bridging trick | 23:30 |
| d_m | yeah you should not need to use any strength | 23:30 |
| gsora | just tighten them enough for them not to fall off | 23:30 |
| d_m | right. don't overtighten | 23:31 |
| ch | optimal: ok. any of the leds light up? | 23:31 |
| gsora | need a torque spec :^) | 23:31 |
| gsora | jokes aside this screen looks a lot better, and has better backlight | 23:32 |
| gsora | the other one had a huge falloff between 55% and 50% | 23:33 |
| ch | optimal: also, does it work if you stop the sysctl from booting? (PROG=on) | 23:34 |
| optimal | ch: none of the LEDs light up without the bypass | 23:38 |
| optimal | also wdym by stopping the sysctl from booting | 23:47 |
| + MartiniMoe (~moe@p200300eecf1ede81316c24fde22315d4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) | 23:56 | |
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