| minute | reform26426: no, i'm afraid not | 00:01 |
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| minute | reform26426: i'm using 2 cables to dock, 1 for charging and usb hub integrated in monitor, and microhdmi | 00:02 |
| reform26426 | i see, thanks! | 00:08 |
| reform26426 | i think it might be a good idea to document the ports and their capabilities somewhere in the manual, if there is such a section i couldn't seem to find it | 00:10 |
| reform26426 | wait nevermind i found it | 00:10 |
| josch | section 7.2.2 Right Side Ports | 00:12 |
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| josch | for the record (aka the irc log): MNT classic Reform with RCORE-DSI RK3588 and display turned *off* lasts 7.5 hours on a single charge of its lifepo4 2200 mAh batteries | 03:26 |
| josch | once mwcampbell comes back, somebody can forward that message to them :) | 03:26 |
| josch | how was it measured? with display turned off i had a terminal open executing the following: while sleep 1; do touch "$(date +%s)"; sync; done | 03:27 |
| josch | after all LEDs shut off, the filesystem contained 450 which, because each of the files was created for one minute makes 7.5 hours of uptime | 03:28 |
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| vagrantc | sleep 1? | 05:40 |
| d_m | sleep for one second | 05:44 |
| d_m | so it keep writing the same file for a whole minute (approx 60 times) then moves on | 05:44 |
| + colinsane (~colinunin@97-113-95-94.tukw.qwest.net) | 05:57 | |
| vagrantc | "each of the files was created for one minute" ? | 06:01 |
| vagrantc | date +%s writes the epoch in seconds since 1970 | 06:02 |
| vagrantc | so i would expect roughly file per second | 06:02 |
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| d_m | ah yeah, that does look like 1/second. unless it was sleep 1m | 06:07 |
| vagrantc | or terrible battery life :) | 06:08 |
| vagrantc | you could also subtract the smallest numbered from the biggest numbered file and that gives you the seconds :) | 06:10 |
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| d_m | haha. i'm assuming josch would have noticed if the machine only stayed up for 7.5 minutes ;) | 06:19 |
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| josch | haha :) | 09:36 |
| josch | indeed it was a "sleep 1m" | 09:37 |
| josch | i couldn't copypaste the command because, as the machine hard shut-off, the .bash_history did not contain it | 09:37 |
| josch | if it had been "sleep 1", the filesystem would not've contained 450 files ;) | 09:38 |
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| gordon1 | til you can do time suffixes in sleep argument | 13:05 |
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| minute | TIL: xfce4 wayland edition is already in debian and works fine on pocket reform https://mastodon.social/@mntmn/115151796191807457 cc josch | 14:56 |
| josch | uh nice \o/ | 15:00 |
| grimmware | game recommendation: Quadrilateral Cowboy is perfect to play on the pocket | 15:00 |
| josch | minute: i guess reform-tools should ship default xfce4 settings to turn the screen so that it works out-of-the-box? | 15:06 |
| jfred | ooh xfce on the pocket is very cool! | 15:16 |
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| aakast | Anyone in here who knows the status of the MNT Reform Next shipping date? It seems to have been pushed by 4 months. | 15:52 |
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| kop316 | minute The batteies seem to be balanced, but the shutdown definitely happens around 55%. I may try to buy new batteries soon to see if that helps | 17:50 |
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| ch | stupid q: which way is 'on' on the pocket standby power sw? | 17:59 |
| minute | josch: yeah, and besides that i'll work on a default config when i find time :D | 18:01 |
| minute | aakast: ohh 4 months? maybe out of caution | 18:01 |
| minute | ch: we recently made some pics for that, hang on | 18:01 |
| minute | ch: https://support.mnt.re/#devices/pocket_reform/standby_switch_test | 18:03 |
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| + libercv (~libercv@user/libercv) | 18:07 | |
| ch | minute: thank you! | 18:22 |
| ch | lets see if it will recover from empty | 18:22 |
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| josch | ch: i don't think the question is stupid. Lets use this opportunity to document this better. I had the strong memory of having submitted a MR already the last time that i wondered about the same thing but it seems my brain is like sieve. So here it is up for discussion: | 19:16 |
| josch | maybe my memory confused me asking for "documentation" on the silkscreen: https://floss.social/@josch/114621321346567937 | 19:17 |
| + skipwich (~skipwich@user/skipwich) | 19:18 | |
| jfred | Hmm, I've noticed that sometimes the menu on my Pocket Reform's keyboard OLED panel will time out (displaying "T" on the top left corner) when I try to open the battery menu while charging | 19:20 |
| jfred | I think I'm on the latest sysctl and keyboard firmware from the repo | 19:21 |
| jfred | wait, maybe I'm not on the latest keyboard fw - I see timestamps from Jul 9 in the `build` dir. should try updating that... | 19:22 |
| josch | jfred: reform-mcu-tool will show your your firmware version | 19:22 |
| josch | and the next reform-tools release will let reform-check tell you whether you are on the latest version | 19:23 |
| jfred | josch: what subcommand? `sudo reform-mcu-tool list` shows me the ID and serial of the kb/sysctl but doesn't seem to show a version (unless it's the "1.0" in "pocket-input-1.0"?) | 19:25 |
| jfred | aha interesting; I updated the keyboard and sysctl fw and saw the same thing, then I flipped the standby power switch off and on and now it works fine | 19:42 |
| jfred | ahh, turning it off and on again :) | 19:42 |
| ch | josch: it felt silly to me cause i've flipped this switch so often already | 19:47 |
| josch | every question is an opportunity to improve the docs :) | 19:50 |
| josch | ch: do you remember when i made the same observation that jfred made? | 19:50 |
| josch | that the version was missing? | 19:50 |
| josch | do you remember what the issue was? | 19:50 |
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| asjackson | using my pocket after a few days on different computer, linux doesnt seem to know about its battery suddenly? still working and charging, but 'upower -b' doesnt return anything. any ideas? | 20:59 |
| asjackson | hmm i also cant adjust the display brightness | 21:03 |
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| minute | josch: btw on the rcore wifi expansion i did implement your suggestion of marking on/off clearly on the silkscreen | 21:34 |
| minute | asjackson: you can try apt install reform2-lpc-dkms | 21:34 |
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| asjackson | thanks "reform2-lpc-dkms is already the newest version", although it is also saying something about unsatisfied dependencies, but likely unrelated " libvtk9.3 : Depends: libopenmpi40 (>= 5.0.8) but 5.0.7-1 is to be installed" | 21:38 |
| asjackson | ah i think that error is preventing dkms from building. cleaning stuff up. freecad broke everything apparently :D | 21:45 |
| asjackson | all fixed, thanks for your help | 21:48 |
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| sleepysheep | Hello! | 23:27 |
| sleepysheep | I am new to irc. Using it on my new pocket reform! | 23:28 |
| sleepysheep | I heard there is an effort to get hibernation working on the rk3588 and I want to know how a noob can help | 23:29 |
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