2025-08-29.log

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bremnerjosch: finally tested the reform-tools fix. I think everything worked. At least I booted into 6.17 without reverting the upstream API change03:19
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joschbremner: and you have battery status show up just fine?08:55
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[tj]I had two complete resets on my pocket last night09:58
[tj]if I were to guess I think the sysctl firmware has some issues09:58
[tj]I've had it crash a bunch of times, but all it did was show the "press keys to boot" indicator09:59
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voltaire28Which 4G/5G/LTE Cellular Internet  card  do you use on MNT Pocket Reform RK3588 (M.2 key B WWAN slot) ?  10:23
joschvoltaire28: i'm using the quectel em06-e10:28
voltaire28Thanks !10:31
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reform11696hey i updated the kernel with the flash sd card and now my pocket reform goes back into the cli mode where i need to enter username i onlu achieve it by changing tty as the tty1 gives me a blank screen with white cursor anyone knows how do i migrate to the nvme i tried encrypted setup but it doesnt boot into the system even ejected sd card and with.. now my only option would be to migrate as new but it says t12:15
reform11696also reform-check gives me an error mutter doesnt exist12:16
joschreform11696: can we go through your issues one-by-one?12:16
reform11696hi josch yeah  please i just got this mnt and dont have any clue how to operate it12:17
joschreform11696: what is your current status?12:17
joschwhich pocket reform do you have?12:17
joschalso, for complex questions, consider creating an account at the community forum where it's easier to paste large terminal output, for example12:18
reform11696PREF1SYSR120240416normal,0,0,0 MNT POCKET REFORM HIDPREFHID2024041612:18
reform11696i hope that was correct12:18
joschthis is what the oled shows12:19
reform11696zeah12:19
reform11696is there another way to see the status12:19
joschwhich already is saying that your firmware is outdated. Recent firmware has a few important fixes to allow for stable operation of your pocket reform. Please keep in mind that you should at some point upgrade that firmware.12:19
joschreform11696: for example it would be useful to know *which* pocket reform you have12:19
joschyou could, for example copypaste the output of reform-check into a pastebin and send us the link to the text12:20
reform11696n schema org gnome.mutter does not exit12:20
reform11696it says12:21
joschright, but it says more -- can you show us?12:21
reform11696no it doesnt say more i try to install wgetpaste12:21
reform11696one sec12:21
joschreform11696: you can also upload to my own pastebin service by running:12:26
minutewith that old FW it must be from crowd supply / mouser stock, so imx8mplus 12:26
joschsudo reform-check | curl -F 'arg=<-' https://mister-muffin.de/paste12:26
reform11696it is æ mnt12:26
minutei mean, imx8mplus processor12:27
reform11696exactly i was tring to say- thats correct12:27
reform11696i tried to upload it12:28
reform11696https://mister-muffin.de/p/Ffjb.txt12:29
reform11696now with sudo it says something sorry about that12:29
joschreform-check requires superuser privileges for many of the actions it performs12:29
reform11696i bought a 32gb sd card flashed the imx8mplus image and wanted to setup the new installed nvme via reform-encrypted-disk but i dunno somehow it doesnt boot of it and i fall back into the cli where i can use the reform-tools12:31
joschreform11696: what selections did you make when you ran reform-encrypted-disk?12:32
joschas in: where is your /boot for example12:32
joschi also don't yet understand what you mean when you say that it falls back into the cli -- are you in single-user mode?12:33
reform11696i told it to put it on the emmc instead of the sd card because i didnt planned to use the sd card all the time.. does that satisfy the question12:33
joschyes, that should work12:33
joschwhen you boot into your new system, you *are* asked for the passphrase you configured, right?12:34
reform11696it gives me the mnt logo and some useful commands for the system12:34
reform11696yeah i was asked for the passphrase12:34
joschokay12:34
reform11696but on tty it gives me the blank cursor and sometimes it blinks12:34
joschdid you run reform-check on *that* system?12:34
joschor from a vanilla sd-card?12:34
reform11696i am not sure if it boots of the sd card or oif the system but i was asked for the passphrase and then changed to tty3 because of said problem and then run the reform-check command12:35
joschif you have the sd-card in it should boot from that one12:36
joschif it asked you for the passphrase anyway, then something is wrong12:36
reform11696the sd card is out now i see12:36
reform11696so i think it boots of the system12:36
joschokay, it would indeed be very interesting to see the reform-check output of that system12:37
joschthere was a recent reform-tools upload so maybe something broke12:37
joschi can try running reform-setup-encrypted-disk myself later today (in ~9 hours)12:38
reform11696afaik it is the reform-check of said system12:38
reform11696as my sd card was out 12:38
joschgood12:39
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joschah sorry12:39
joschmy command was wrong12:39
joschsudo reform-check 2>&1 | curl -F 'arg=<-' https://mister-muffin.de/paste12:40
reform11696when i try to reform-setup-encrypted-disk it says nvme0n1 is still in use12:40
joschreform-check outputs on stderr12:40
reform11696sudo reform-check 2>&1 | curl -F 'arg=<-' https://mister-muffin.de/paste12:40
joschso you need to add 2>&1 to redirect stderr to stdout so that it gets piped into cur12:40
joschyou should not run reform-setup-encrypted-disk from a system that is running from that same encrypted disk12:40
reform11696https://mister-muffin.de/p/BQqN.txt12:41
joschminute: one downside with the plymouth theme is that during the first boot it hides the sd-card partition resizing progress bar. I now found out how to print text and if reform-branding is also installed it now looks like this: https://mister-muffin.de/p/Z7UW.jpg12:41
joschminute: this is the image if you want to try it out yourself as well: https://source.mnt.re/josch/reform-system-image/-/jobs/12957/artifacts/raw/reform-system-any.img.gz12:41
joschreform11696: unfortunately i do not see anything that is obviously wrong there12:43
joschexcept for a bug in reform-check which is unrelated to your issue12:43
joschi don't know why it drops you into a text terminal12:43
minutejosch: neat, many thanks12:43
minutereform11696: did you try sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ?12:44
reform11696yes12:44
joschminute: reform11696 is using the very latest system image. It is possible something got borked. I'll try running reform-setup-encrypted-disk myself later today. Maybe i can reproduce the problem.12:45
bremnerjosch: I _think_ so. Not at the console now, but the output from "sensors" looks reasonable12:45
joschbremner: thank you!12:46
minutejosch: aha! i also did reform-flash-rescue on a client sent in machine two days ago and it didn't result in a booting system (it was pulling the image off master branch)12:46
minutejosch: but i thought maybe a fluke. we then used our install card that has a script with a specific build number and that worked12:47
minutehttps://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-factory/-/blob/main/common-rk3588/build-numbers.sh?ref_type=heads12:47
reform11696if i insert the sd card and try to boot of it do you think i can try to setup everything again in the meanwhile12:48
minutereform11696: yes, was the system ok and usable on sd card?12:50
minutereform11696: also, i recommend doing "sudo reform-flash-uboot emmc" if not done yet, to make sure uboot is up to date12:50
joschminute: it is also possible that something in unstable broke. So many options. :) I'm also have been creating new system images regularly during the past few days and at least they work... so it's a mystery why the installed system refuses to... hrm...12:51
reform11696i got the pocket running in gui without sd card and it worked i tried to update it with the img i flashed on to the sd card but i will reboot and try to get the uboot updated afaik i only need the image for the pocket reform and it has the uboot updater on it so that reform-flash-uboot emmc works ootb12:53
minutereform11696: also, here are instructions for updating your firmware https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/releases/2025072412:53
minutereform11696: also for the sd card image, i can tell you a link to a known good version, hang om12:54
minutehang on12:54
minutereform11696: try this image on sd card https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-system-image/-/jobs/11901/artifacts/raw/pocket-reform-system-imx8mp.img.gz12:57
reform11696thank you12:57
minutereform11696: one more thing (i'll be away for half an hour or so, driving to the company), when you come around to do the keyboard fw update, it's better if you have an external keyboard that can connect to usb-c in case things go wrong12:58
minutei should add that to those release notes12:58
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joschACTION is now afk for ~9 hours but i'll test reform-setup-encrypted-disk once i'm back unless somebody else beats me to it13:05
austriancoderjosch: minute: can you include this fix in the mnt kernel package? I hope it will (finally) land and find its way into stable versions: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250508145624.4154317-1-tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net/raw13:06
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minutejosch et al: I collected my usual links and instructions for updating pocket reform here https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/releases/2025072413:18
minuteaustriancoder: ohh, what's that fix for?13:18
minuteneat, one can link to this channel directly for the libera web chat: https://web.libera.chat/#mnt-reform13:34
austriancoderminute: fixes mmu faults13:39
minuteaustriancoder: nice! josch whenever you have time, including that patch has my blessing of course :D13:42
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elbDoes anyone know of a good source for an ix industrial A to RJ-45 jack dongle that is readily available in the US?  I see some affordable cables that are ix to plug, but the ix to jack cables I easily found are $$$15:22
elbunrelated, do people have Bluetooth working with the MediaTek MT7612U wifi adapter that's currently shipping with pocket reforms?  It looks like it has the capability, but bluez doesn't seem to see an adapter on my machine15:24
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asjacksonelb: i was asking about that a day or two ago, it's likely bluetooth won't work, something about it being usb and usb already being used for the wifi16:16
minuteelb: yes we have a dongle on crowd supply16:17
minuteelb: https://www.crowdsupply.com/mnt/mnt-reform-next#product-424916:18
minutei think this will also land on mouser through us, but at a later point16:18
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minutelooks like we could run debian on rkx7 https://spinalhdl.github.io/VexiiRiscv-RTD/master/VexiiRiscv/Soc/litex.html17:23
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minute(64 bit, that is)17:33
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reform6795hi short question, minute said i should update mz old firmware on the pocket reform with reform-flash-uboot emmc. I managed to get to the nvme boot and wanted to use that command, should i use the command from the sd card *which is not currently booting idk why* or can i run this command from the running system18:13
minutereform6795: can use the running system18:26
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gordon1reform maintenance kit https://tinystash.undef.im/il/2ni98YribA59Qc2yccE2hBk5PNnNs8vjT3JjvgJQeBGa4CpsDkBGKaZgMhK83DuBZXrkDuXPwQgw8ZksjnAnYLc2.JPG21:05
reform53josch did you find a solution why i keep getting please unlock disk reform_crypt even if i have the sd card with the new image in the pocket?21:25
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minute"reform53" is gone but i guess the answer is that the reform-migrate script was executed on the SD card and the SD card's boot config thus changed. re-imaging the SD card would be the way to go22:17
minutegordon1: heh, nice :D22:17
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