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| jogu | minute: when you get a sec could you unhide the post I made about zmk, seems like it got auto-flagged as spam? | 04:52 |
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| josch | jogu: oh dear... the system says "This new user tried to create multiple posts with links to the same domain. All posts from this user that include links should be reviewed." | 04:59 |
| josch | jogu: both posts should be visible again now, sorry for the inconvenience | 05:00 |
| jogu | josch: Thanks for taking a look! Yeah, I think it didn't like my github links for some reason | 05:04 |
| jogu | also cool to see that arm build support got added to the zmk studio ci! | 05:05 |
| jogu | was looking into making the PR myself and saw someone had already made one haha | 05:05 |
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| casparvitch | josch: (ignore if you're busy 🙃) - I *think* I may have found the issue. L405 in reform-d-i's run.sh only checks for /proc/device-tree/model in "MNT Reform 2"|"MNT Reform 2 HDMI". But the model is more like "MNT Pocket Reform with i.MX8MP Module" e.g. see https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-imx8mp-uboot/-/blob/main/imx8mp-mnt-pocket-reform.dts?ref_type=heads#L266 OR https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-factory/-/blob/main/classic-reform/factory | 08:33 |
| casparvitch | josch: `flash-kernel` needs to know which hardware it's running on. (1) it can check `/etc/flash-kernel/machine` (not filled in due to that case guard failing for most reform models), or (2) reading /proc/device-tree/model -> but proc/device-tree/model is a symlink that points into /sys, and /sys isn't mounted in the installer's chroot environment | 08:36 |
| casparvitch | => auto-detection fails, and flash-kernel configuration crashes. (I think this is the problem anyway ~~) | 08:36 |
| josch | casparvitch: line 405 you found is a special-casing for the i.MX8MQ -- it should not be needed for any other models | 08:37 |
| casparvitch | damn | 08:37 |
| casparvitch | my logic was so good though :D | 08:37 |
| josch | i'm surprised that /proc/device-tree/model is a symlink into /sys | 08:37 |
| josch | that was not the case the last time i tried this | 08:37 |
| josch | and it is not the case in my currently running system | 08:37 |
| casparvitch | mmmmm ok I will confirm that again when I get time later | 08:37 |
| josch | thank you! | 08:38 |
| casparvitch | 👍 | 08:38 |
| casparvitch | josch: I have a record: `ls -ld /target/proc/device-tree ==> irwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Aug 4 11:29 /target/proc/device-tree -> /sys/firmware/devicetree/base` & then /sys is not mounted into /target/sys so the symlink breaks? | 08:46 |
| casparvitch | But I will do a fresh run to confirm, that isn't so useful on it's own | 08:48 |
| josch | casparvitch: no, sorry you are right /proc/device-tree is the symlink | 08:49 |
| josch | then what is puzzling is, that /sys is not mounted | 08:49 |
| josch | debootstrap does mount it | 08:49 |
| josch | or maybe something in the log says otherwise? | 08:50 |
| casparvitch | maybe just /sys isn't mounted 'automatically' when I chroot in: https://tinyurl.com/e448jpr8 | 09:03 |
| josch | yes, that's a possibility | 09:06 |
| josch | casparvitch: are you able to extract the debootstrap logs? | 09:07 |
| josch | casparvitch: there should be a program called intarget or in-target or similar which is doing the mounting and chroot call for you | 09:07 |
| casparvitch | Not right now, will try now | 09:08 |
| casparvitch | *later. What's the easiest way to share the logs of a partially installed system? | 09:09 |
| casparvitch | nc? | 09:10 |
| josch | casparvitch: the tool was called in-target: https://d-i.debian.org/doc/internals/ch02.html#idm312 | 09:12 |
| josch | casparvitch: in section 2.7 you see tips of how to debug it | 09:12 |
| casparvitch | ahh gotcha, thanks 🙏 | 09:13 |
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| C-Keen | What's the current state of suspend/resume on a classic reform2? | 10:34 |
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| [tj] | grimmware: I've never updated, I didn't spot the usb reset option I'll try that if it happens again | 11:28 |
| josch | C-Keen: which SoM? | 11:45 |
| C-Keen | josch: i.MX8 | 11:46 |
| josch | C-Keen: it works most of the time with 6.12 | 11:47 |
| josch | C-Keen: try it out with a debian trixie image from reform.debian.net on your sd-card | 11:48 |
| C-Keen | josch: how do you trigger it and how am i supposed to wake it up properly? I cannot get mine to resume... | 11:48 |
| josch | C-Keen: you press circle+space to resume | 11:48 |
| C-Keen | josch: hm... do I need a specific LPC version for that? | 11:49 |
| josch | C-Keen: no, it should work with the latest | 11:50 |
| C-Keen | ok, I will try that again then | 11:50 |
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| josch | C-Keen: remember that it also depends on some random-ness of your i.MX8MQ. Using the same system image on an sd-card, suspend worked 10 times in a row on the unit of BoostisBetter and it didn't work even once when switching the SoM for mine | 14:31 |
| [tj] | can someone link me to the documentation on updating sysctl firmwares | 14:42 |
| [tj] | sysctl and keyboard I guess | 14:42 |
| josch | [tj]: you had a rk3588 pocket reform? | 14:43 |
| [tj] | imx8mp | 14:43 |
| josch | [tj]: if your firmware is new enough you can use gnome-firmware | 14:48 |
| josch | if you don't have gnome, you could use fwupdmgr from the command line | 14:48 |
| [tj] | is there documentation? I'd like a tab to feel guilty about rather than an irc conversation that will scroll away | 14:49 |
| [tj] | oh, I could just do it now | 14:50 |
| josch | one sec, i took screenshots of the process a while ago for m.inute | 14:50 |
| [tj] | :D | 14:50 |
| josch | m.inute had plans to write these docs | 14:50 |
| josch | i don't think that has happened yet unless i missed it | 14:50 |
| josch | [tj]: found it: https://mister-muffin.de/p/1792.png | 14:53 |
| josch | and here is how to do it: | 14:54 |
| josch | 1. press the upgrade button | 14:54 |
| josch | i guess that's why there are no docs -- if your firmware is too old for this to show up, there are manual steps which are shown here: | 14:54 |
| [tj] | i am quite lost | 14:55 |
| [tj] | what is that a screenshot of? | 14:55 |
| josch | https://source.mnt.re/reform/pocket-reform/-/releases/20250724 | 14:55 |
| josch | [tj]: that is gnome-firmware | 14:55 |
| josch | if you don't have gnome, then on the command line you can carry out steps documented here: https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd?tab=readme-ov-file#basic-usage-flow-command-line | 14:57 |
| josch | and if your firmware is too old for any devices to show up you follow the steps in the source.mnt.re link i pasted aobve | 14:57 |
| [tj] | ta | 14:59 |
| [tj] | the scripts should detect if they are not running with bash | 15:00 |
| [tj] | the root check fails with ash | 15:00 |
| josch | there are more issues with the scripts but they haven't been fixed in the past either | 15:03 |
| josch | i guess because these scripts are also supposed to be temporary | 15:03 |
| [tj] | fair enough | 15:03 |
| josch | once everybody is upgraded, they are not needed anymore | 15:03 |
| [tj] | I would fix things, but $work is so difficult to be motivated to do I'm really trying to not be distracted | 15:04 |
| josch | i'd fix them but i don't have the permissions on that repo :D | 15:04 |
| [tj] | thanks that worked | 15:06 |
| josch | [tj]: you used the script method and not fwupd? | 15:06 |
| [tj] | or, it didn't break everything I have no idea if it applied updates | 15:06 |
| josch | you can check which firmware version you are on by using fwupdmgr | 15:07 |
| josch | and soon using reform-mcu-tool | 15:07 |
| josch | it needs this to get merged: https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/merge_requests/135 | 15:07 |
| [tj] | I don't have fwupdmgr | 15:08 |
| josch | [tj]: you could git clone https://source.mnt.re/reform/reform-tools/-/tree/zeha/mcu-version and confirm that it works :) | 15:10 |
| josch | (you can run the tool directly from git) | 15:10 |
| casparvitch | josch: josch: full syslogs @ https://pastebin.com/irE6jkTx . Some SSL connection fails for reform.debian.net/debian, but seems fine on my other system 🤷 | 15:16 |
| josch | casparvitch: thank you. The problem could simply be that the package ca-certificates is not installed because there is this in the log: error:0A000086:SSL routines::certificate verify failed | 15:26 |
| josch | it's only later in the log that ca-certificates gets installed | 15:27 |
| josch | usually not having ca-certificates is fine because the debian mirrors are not https | 15:27 |
| josch | that would also explain E: Package 'linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64' has no installation candidate | 15:28 |
| josch | casparvitch: I'm copypasting that log into a new issue on salsa.debian.org, okay? | 15:29 |
| casparvitch | yep go for it, thanks 🙏 | 15:39 |
| josch | casparvitch: what was your approach to obtain these logs? | 15:40 |
| casparvitch | ran the installer with `openssh-client-udeb` comp, stopped after software install stage & scp'd the syslogs. No `set -x` or anything | 15:43 |
| josch | okay, cool thank you! | 15:43 |
| casparvitch | sorry for the fuss, if I'd known how easy the scp was we'd have been here earlier :) | 15:44 |
| josch | casparvitch: i created this issue https://salsa.debian.org/reform-team/reform-debian-installer/-/issues/1 let me know if you would like to add more | 15:44 |
| casparvitch | 👍 | 15:45 |
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| swivel | https://youtu.be/gYqF6-h9Cvg | 19:14 |
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| minute | swivel: hehe, nice one | 22:11 |
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| swivel | yeah, sorry I actually thought I was in a diff channel - but it works here just fine :) | 22:24 |
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| + optimal (~user@212.58.103.251) | 23:47 | |
| optimal | i flipped the battery standby switch on my MNT Pocket Reform while it was plugged into power, the machine switched off and now will not power up again (Hyper+Enter does absolutely nothing), although the red charging light on the side still works | 23:51 |
| optimal | (my silly original reason for doing this was to "preserve battery health" while i had it plugged in, thinking it would just turn off the batteries and run off of wall power, oh well) | 23:52 |
| optimal | does anyone know of a possible troubleshooting method/fix for this or have i bricked my unit after 3 hours of playing around with it :P | 23:53 |
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