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| minute | josch: about the hinges, i'm sorry to hear! but you're the only one who ever reported this issue... | 01:41 |
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| minute | bkeys: sorry. i'm kind of on my own at the company at the moment | 01:42 |
| bkeys | minute: No problem, I can wait as long as needed. I just wanted to make sure it didn't fall into a hole | 01:42 |
| minute | various people are on holidays or have only part time capacity | 01:42 |
| minute | bkeys: yeah, i need to bring back the auto responder, it's off since DHL created a 400 mail bounce loop in there | 01:42 |
| minute | bkeys: i remember seeing your ticket | 01:43 |
| minute | bkeys: and we have new display stock so this should be sorted out soon | 01:43 |
| bkeys | Do you think it's the display itself? | 01:59 |
| bkeys | I think it's either that, or maybe something with the motherboard. I think it might be the motherboard because it won't light up an external display either | 01:59 |
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| kfx | minute: since removing R82, I can't get video on rk3588 via dsi or the hdmi adapter, or with the imx8mq. I know you & the team are overworked right now -- when would be a good time to ask after buying a new motherboard? | 02:48 |
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| josch | minute: no worries, it's okay because i know how to repair them with M2 screws and i even have replacement hinges from you if i feel fancy :) -- i just hope i stay the only one and that the hinges last more than four years for others... | 03:28 |
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| gordon1 | josch: can you pls elaborate a bit more on hinges problem (maybe with some pictures)? | 10:35 |
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| josch | gordon1: i already did on the forum back when it happened for the first hinge | 11:55 |
| josch | gordon1: https://community.mnt.re/t/unhinged-how-one-of-my-hinges-broke-and-how-i-repaired-it/3343 | 11:55 |
| josch | gordon1: tell me if you'd like me to elaborate somewhere. I can also follow up on that thread with photos of my left hinge which is now busted in the same way | 11:56 |
| gordon1 | ah, i see, there were two rivets that failed and you just replaced them with M2 screws | 12:07 |
| gordon1 | commendable | 12:08 |
| gordon1 | i will keep that in mind | 12:08 |
| josch | oooh they are called "rivets" :D | 12:09 |
| gordon1 | well technically those are not rivets i guess, because bottom part is press fit instead of pinning (maybe?) | 12:13 |
| gordon1 | there's probably a technical term for this kind of fastener | 12:13 |
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| + casparvitch (~casparvit@36-255-114-132.ip4.superloop.au) | 12:47 | |
| gordon1 | oh i realized now that original fasteners just sheared clean off, that's impressive | 12:55 |
| casparvitch | josch: Hi sorry I'm back only with failure again, sorry. I get an error during d-i (d-i/reform-system-any-bpo.img.xz) in the 'select and install software stage'. Not a network or other simple error I think. It fails at about 95% after 'installing ca-certificates' or similar. I initially thought it might might just that the bootloader install is designed to fail as we use u-boot. So I just proceeded without bootloader. [...] | 12:58 |
| casparvitch | josch: The installer just hangs there though, no "Finish the installation" or "U-boot" screen. Syslog before the fail says 'grub-installer: GRUB is only available on EFI arm64 systems, not arm64-generic' and then `systemd-boot-installer: systemd-boot is only usable on 64bit EFI systems, not arm64-generic`. Previously there's also `WARNING: pkgsel failed with error code 100`. [...] | 12:58 |
| casparvitch | josch: Also, in case it matters it detects some missing firmware at the start of the d-i, I assumed it was just the wifi card so I ignored that. Any pointers appreciated as I've now written over my old partitions etc. - no rush though :) | 12:58 |
| gordon1 | josch: technically m2 screws will have a bit less "meat" because of the threads, but just judging by the thickness it probably is some sort of manufacturing defect, and your M2 fix will probably last for quite some time | 12:58 |
| casparvitch | sorry to everyone else for the spam | 12:58 |
| gordon1 | i doubt just metal fatigue can end up in such a clean shear | 12:59 |
| gordon1 | also why those pins are so hard they can shear like that? i'm puzzled | 13:01 |
| casparvitch | josch: Oh... I see a potentially more relevant issue in syslog (during pkgsel): "package linux-headers-mnt-reform-arm64 is not available, but is referred to by another package", then pkgsel fails. I will investigate... | 13:08 |
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| josch | casparvitch: thank you for your report! That looks like an issue that I should be able to reproduce as the last error message you posted should not be a platform-specific issue | 14:37 |
| josch | casparvitch: mind if i copypaste what you said into an issue so that i do not forget to look into it? | 14:39 |
| casparvitch | josch: yep go for it. I have some more info, I am just checking 1 last thing | 14:40 |
| josch | thank you! | 14:40 |
| josch | gordon1: yes, the M2 screws might be more fragile but if one breaks, they are very easy to replace which makes me sleep a bit better than having to wait weeks for replacement hinges from MNT XD | 14:40 |
| casparvitch | basically looks like a whole heap of stuff was messed up - /sys wasn't mounted into /target & I had to copy the dtb to /etc/flash-kernel/dtbs/ to get the installer to find it | 14:42 |
| josch | oh? | 14:42 |
| josch | casparvitch: i'm going on holidays in 2 weeks and i expect to definitely find the time then to fix this. Sorry for the trouble. | 14:43 |
| josch | casparvitch: of course if you are fasten than me and can send a patch, that would work for me as well :) | 14:43 |
| casparvitch | josch: no worries at all!! 0% upset here, having fun. Not sure exactly what the fix/source error is, just playing around and finding things that are missing | 14:44 |
| casparvitch | my notes: Found the reform headers file with `chroot /target apt-get update` & `chroot /target apt-cache search linux-headers-mnt-reform`, so I go back to the installer from there and run software install step again & it works a bit better.. but still pkgsel errors out. Hmmmm. OK then what's missing is `imx8mp-mnt-pocket-reform.dtb` -> no `/target/etc/flash-kernel.conf`, and no `/proc/device-tree/model`? Looks like the installer | 14:46 |
| casparvitch | `mount --bind /sys /target/sys` and run software install step again -> still errors out with missing `imx8mp-mnt-pocket-reform.dtb` | 14:46 |
| casparvitch | cp /target/usr/lib/linux-image-*/freescale/imx8mp-mnt-pocket-reform.dtb /target/etc/flash-kernel/dtbs/ | 14:46 |
| josch | casparvitch: the problem is very likely the changes in this commit: https://salsa.debian.org/reform-team/reform-debian-installer/-/commit/26fdbf12bf6e0194bffdf1a25f9ff840de2d219f | 14:46 |
| josch | i bought the sd mux fast and once the MNT shop offers motherboards again, I'll get myself another two so that I can set up an automated testbed for these sort of thing | 14:49 |
| casparvitch | needs an additional item there for the pocket-reform dtb? | 14:49 |
| josch | casparvitch: theoretically no. I do not understand yet what the problem is but also do not have time right now to look into it. Still over 400 exams to correct... | 14:49 |
| casparvitch | ha sorry you go enjoy that | 14:50 |
| casparvitch | no stress on timeline either, I can wait a month | 14:51 |
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| josch | hehe yes "enjoy" :D | 14:54 |
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| ch | in addition to getting-work-done conferences and meetups there should also be relax/spa meetups | 15:58 |
| ch | something to actually enjoy (: | 15:58 |
| josch | ch: are you saying that one daytrip per debconf is not enough for you??? ;) | 16:13 |
| ch | yeah also it was more of a workout than a relaxation thing :D | 16:14 |
| josch | heh i see :) | 16:16 |
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| sigrid | does rk3588 not detect 1gbps ethernet properly? I had to force it with ethtool | 16:55 |
| grimmware | sigrid: mine's showing as gigabit | 17:08 |
| grimmware | and I've not done anything weird with it | 17:09 |
| sigrid | :C | 17:09 |
| grimmware | I am on the pocket mind | 17:09 |
| [tj] | maybe some ambient weirdness configured it | 17:11 |
| grimmware | sigrid has sufficient quantities of ambient weirdness to rule that out... | 17:12 |
| grimmware | maybe a surplus of ambient weirdness broke it? | 17:13 |
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| [tj] | Keyboard in my pocket has stopped passing keys to Debian twice today | 20:45 |
| [tj] | I can interact with the menu fine | 20:45 |
| [tj] | Is this known? | 20:45 |
| grimmware | [tj]: how old is your firmware? And does a USB reset from the menu fix it? | 21:17 |
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