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| casparvitch | Hi all! I am trying to use josch's debian (stable) installer (https://reform.debian.net/). I have it on an sd card, but when I boot the system I just get my regular (eMMC) install. It *seems* to find the sd card (mmc2?), see logs below. Maybe I should interrupt the boot & try playing around? https://pastebin.com/g8GU3Pdd around | 03:28 |
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| ch | does that log look different from a boot without the sdcard in? | 05:13 |
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| minute | ch: which script were you referring to? my pocket keyboard update script? | 13:13 |
| minute | ch: if so, it exists mainly to deal with all weird situations | 13:13 |
| minute | ch: there's even a retry loop in there now around picotool in case your cable is bad (or whatever causes disruptions) | 13:14 |
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| casparvitch | ch: only slightly different without sd card - https://pastebin.com/KVy4WdPe - (& no diff if DIP switch is in 'ON' not '1' position). | 13:18 |
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| ch | minute: yes the keyboard update script. does it deal with 'rp2040 is already in programming mode'? | 13:37 |
| minute | ch: aha! let me check | 13:38 |
| minute | casparvitch: which dip switch do you mean? maybe i can shed some light here | 13:38 |
| casparvitch | minute: thanks! I think it's called the system controller switch in the docs? | 13:40 |
| minute | (sorry i wasn't able to give support here in the last days... needed a break on the weekend and yesterday needed to focus on qcs module) | 13:40 |
| minute | casparvitch: could you summarize your current situation and problem with the device for me? what i gathered is you're on a pocket reform with imx8mplus | 13:41 |
| minute | casparvitch: but i don't understand what the system controller switch has to do with uboot | 13:41 |
| casparvitch | no worries at all, I don't have an issue per-se. I am trying to install debian stable. There was a note somewhere in josch's docs about a dip switch setting the boot order but perhaps that was another switch | 13:42 |
| casparvitch | my 'issue' is that when I boot with the sd card in, I go straight to my regular/emmc install & not the sd card installer | 13:43 |
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| minute | casparvitch: ok got it. the DIP switch only applies to classic reform and the classic imx8mq module. | 14:17 |
| minute | casparvitch: if you set the system controller DIP switch to "ON", and the system controller resets, the device is unusable | 14:17 |
| minute | casparvitch: so make sure to set it to off (which is ironically labeled "1" on the switch) | 14:18 |
| casparvitch | ha ok thanks I won't touch it again :) | 14:19 |
| casparvitch | going afk (bed) now, will check logs tmrw in case anyone has any pointers but thanks regardless 🙏 | 14:21 |
| minute | casparvitch: if the pocket fails to boot debian stable from SD, i think josch is the right person who can help | 14:21 |
| josch | casparvitch: yes, support for reform.d.n is me not minute :) | 14:22 |
| josch | casparvitch: the problem becomes a problem for MNT if you cannot boot your imx8mplus from an sd-card | 14:23 |
| josch | casparvitch: so maybe to rule out that there is a problem with your sd-card, could you flash a normal system image on the same sd-card and see if that boots? | 14:23 |
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| josch | casparvitch: also thanks a lot for your serial logs, that really helps! It looks like u-boot just doesn't find anything on the sd-card but you can see in the log that it checks | 14:25 |
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| minute | josch: maybe for clarification: imx8mplus cannot boot directly from SD card. only indirectly via eMMC | 15:07 |
| + shtrophic (~m-hrdsqi@user/shtrophic) | 15:07 | |
| minute | josch: so for the debian stable image to work, it has to be compatible with our imx8mplus uboot on emmc | 15:07 |
| josch | minute: yes, u-boot is getting loader from emmc and according to the serial output it fails to load extlinx.conf from the first partition of the sd-card. According to the log it's also the latest u-boot for imx8mplus | 15:10 |
| josch | in the reform-tools machine.conf files we have this recorded as: | 15:11 |
| josch | SD_BOOT=false | 15:11 |
| josch | this prevents reform-flash-uboot to flash u-boot onto an sd-card if you are on ixm8mplus because it would be useless to do so | 15:11 |
| josch | minute: but thank you for confirming this, there are so many corner cases with these socs... | 15:11 |
| josch | like rk3588 which can load u-boot from sd-card but only if it fails to find something on emmc | 15:13 |
| minute | josch: correct. | 15:15 |
| minute | josch: i just wanted to refresh our memories on this ^^ so then the question is why does it fail to find extlinux? | 15:15 |
| josch | yes, so i think trying to boot a regular system image that uses extlinux, like the reform-system-any would be a good next step | 15:16 |
| minute | got it | 15:16 |
| minute | yes | 15:16 |
| josch | or falling back to u-boot console and looking manually | 15:16 |
| josch | minute: nice to see you back here :) | 15:17 |
| josch | i also saw the posts how you are crunshing through your backlog of orders these days -- super cool to hear :) | 15:17 |
| minute | josch: yes, that crunching is mostly other people in the team but i'm helping here and there. | 15:19 |
| minute | josch: but i also need to have a bit more private time on weekends as i'm a bit overworked | 15:19 |
| minute | (and then yesterday i finished the qcs module schematic in a 10 hour marathon m)) ) | 15:20 |
| josch | uff XD | 15:21 |
| grimmware | I finished MHRD this morning, I'm going to be playin TIS-100 on the pocket next :) | 15:21 |
| josch | i had a 14 hour work-day crush yesterday and *now* it's finally a bit of free time :) | 15:22 |
| josch | everybody make sure to take a break and stay healthy! | 15:22 |
| minute | josch: word! | 15:24 |
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| minute | oh wow good timing https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/rp2350-a4-rp2354-and-a-new-hacking-challenge/ | 15:46 |
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| gordon1 | oh is it a new stepping with leakage fixed? neat | 16:01 |
| gordon1 | grimmware: do they have anything beyond CPU task now? i played it a while ago and it ended on CPU but with "to be continued" sort of message | 16:03 |
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| minute | gordon1: yeah | 16:09 |
| gordon1 | so no more fuss about putting separate flash for it finally | 16:09 |
| gordon1 | just need to wait when it appears on mouser | 16:10 |
| gordon1 | they probably have bags and bags of old stepping they need to get rid of | 16:10 |
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| grimmware | gordon1: nah, it still stops there. Part of me is tempted to write a simulator for it so I can actually try writing code on the thing but a lot of me knows I'm more likely to work on other stuff. | 16:33 |
| grimmware | There's also part of me that wants to try and actually build it... | 16:34 |
| gordon1 | grimmware: give turing complete a try if you're fine with graphical mouse-draggin programming instead of a HDL, it goes past the CPU stage | 16:34 |
| gordon1 | (or just buy colorlight i9 fpga board and do it in real hw) | 16:35 |
| grimmware | gordon1: I've put it on my wishlist! | 16:36 |
| grimmware | like I say I'm going to do a bunch of TIS-100 and not get nerdsniped on my shitty instruction count first, and then probably a bit of shenzhen i/o | 16:36 |
| grimmware | I've played both to a limited degree before but the pocket just seems like the perfect platform to play both on :) | 16:37 |
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| josch | I just posted this into the respective MNT bug but maybe this overview is helpful for others: https://codeberg.org/celenity/Phoenix/wiki/Comparison | 19:04 |
| josch | (because the topic of firefox privacy came up in this channel before) | 19:05 |
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| frickler | josch: interesting read, thx | 19:20 |
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