2025-07-28.log

chcan you paste the full lsusb output on some pastebin?00:00
irimi1https://paste.systemli.org/?dab47ef65f09282a#8EwKjgeb57t5NrPYQ2jD8qFLsnTCLzGXP14Uhdx4djjm00:03
chack00:04
chso maybe reseating the keyboard cables might help, or being quick with the update (but that has risks as evinced in the thread)00:05
irimi1nah that needs to be fixed before i try upgrading. if i need like 20-30 attempts to be able to get into the machine in the first place..00:06
irimi1i have some traces in my dmesg log as well, hang on00:06
irimi1https://paste.systemli.org/?af91038cbc16858e#EbgTsj1sqHQN9fHPtjtPoYsGHWFWrgAKfJBx1MTFnvD700:09
chthats https://community.mnt.re/t/pocket-reform-trace-error/359100:10
chas in: hopefully harmless00:11
chthe usb stuff in the middle is probably the keyboard resetting/failing00:11
irimi1around which timestamp?00:11
ch71.15797000:12
ch[    8.328251] usb 1-1.3: Product: Pocket Reform Input00:13
irimi1ah, i haven't spotted those resets. only the prominent usb errors towards the end00:14
irimi1is trying to reseat the keyboard cable the only thing i could reasonably try at the moment? i'm kinda anxious to turn it off tbh :/00:20
chi don't know anything better... does the oled still react?00:31
irimi1yeah, that works00:32
chso, provided you have an external keyboard you could try pressing X in the oled menu00:35
chif lsusb then shows an "RP2 Boot" device, you are probably in luck00:35
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chthe builtin keyboard (+oled!) stops working at that point though00:36
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irimi1i need a working USB connection to flash it though, don't i? or is that to distinguish a hardware from a software issue?00:44
chX resets the keyboard and puts it into bootloader mode00:44
chfrom there you can flash it directly with picotool00:45
chand/or put it out of bootloader mode with picotool00:45
irimi1but..via USB, right?00:45
chyeah, but if the bootloader connects okay via usb, then it should be fine to flash from there00:45
chor you can also wait some time and see if it disconnects also in bootloader mode00:46
irimi1hm. either way i'm gonna wait until tomorrow doing any of that, i'm way too unfocused for that by now. getting a little late for me00:46
irimi1but thank you so so much for your help already <3 the information is a little fragmented and time consuming to find otherwise00:47
chsure, your welcome00:53
chi imagine tomorrow more people will be awake :)00:53
irimi1i'll let you know when i find out more (or have more questions ^^), cheers!00:55
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spewdoes anyone have steam working on rk3588 and can give me some pointers as to what I need to do?01:49
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sigridspew: https://github.com/ptitSeb/box6403:02
sigridI guess https://box86.org/ is a better read03:02
spewty03:05
spewI installed only box64 thinking that would be enough03:06
sigridtl;dr both need to be installed and registered with binfmt03:09
sigridand a bunch of libraries for it to use. if you're not using debian then it probably involves some way of containerization too03:10
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joschsigrid: thanks to wow64 support in wine, you no longer need 32bit wine installed for 32bit applications to work and thus, only box64 is required and should be slightly faster05:28
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joschspew: i'm maintaining box64 in debian, you can file any problems you have as a bug05:49
joschsteam should be working without box86 since box64 release 0.3.4+dfsg-1 in debian05:50
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grimmwarespew: I do and I honestly don't really know what combination was the secret sauce because one day it was suddenly working properly11:32
grimmwarespew: happy to give you the contents of particular config files, log outputs, dpkg listings - whatever you need to compare against a working system11:33
grimmwareI think the likelihood is that I upgraded some packages and it sprung into life11:34
grimmwareI've been playing MHRD, I'm on the level where you implement a CPU :)11:34
grimmwareeasily the most educational game I've ever played11:34
grimmwareeverything's built from NANDs and DFFs upward11:35
grimmwareit's a real joy to play on a reform too given it's all keyboard11:35
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minutegrimmware: oh wow @ MHRD, hadn't heard of it12:43
grimmwareminute: you'd love it13:08
grimmwareI was wiring up parts of a CPU in the break between sets when I was doing my weights this morning!13:08
gordon1there's also Turing Complete but i am still bitter about them not implementing clocks13:09
grimmwareand TIS-100 and Shenzhen I/O13:10
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casparvitchjosch: didn't have a UART<->USB, did have a logic analyser (~ similar). I set it up to read (the UART motherboard connection) during boot) at a baud rate of 57600, and dumped the TX binary. When I read the binary (`strings`) I get what looks like junk: `q!aTD`... Any suggestions?13:29
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joschsorry, mega full day -- maybe somebody else can help13:35
casparvitchno worries!13:35
casparvitchoh I had the baud rate wrong. josch I'll try and learn what's going on in the logs and bug you another time :)13:44
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sigridjosch: does that mean all linux games on steam are 64 bit?14:52
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jfredI also hadn't heard of MHRD, I guess this is the next step after the Zachtronics games XD15:45
jfredlooks interesting, I might have to check it out15:45
grimmwareoh I'd always assumed it *was* a zachtronics game but it turns out it's not15:55
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joguclear17:12
joguoops wrong window hahah17:12
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irimi1ch: is it preferable to use picotool directly instead of the script?20:47
chirimi1: i'd avoid picotool unless you're in a tough situation20:47
irimi1okay. i don't understand the point of putting the keyboard into programming mode via OLED + pressing X then i think20:49
chright, if you're still in the situation where the kbd disconnects soon after poweron, then thats worth a try20:50
ch(and then you must use picotool, the script is iirc not prepared for this)20:51
irimi1oh right, because then i won't get it into programming mode otherwise m)20:51
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irimi1welp, OLED says it's in firmware update mode, but lsusb still shows the same output20:56
irimi1i'm gonna try reseating the cables then, just waiting for the off-site backup to finish first20:56
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